Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[ghosthunter]

With the pending gasoline prices threating to hit P40 before the year's end, LPG fuel conversion seems to be a good alternative, even for the private car owner.

Does anyone know some reputable dealers of LPG conversion kits around metro manila? How much would a typical kit cost? Installation time? How much space will be occupied by the LPG tank in the trunk? What is the typical maintaince issues after the kit is installed? Etc.

Company name, telephone number and address would be appreciated.

[mbt]

abangan ang..... *

coming soon hehe

[ghosthunter]

...and does LPG conversion harm the catalytic converter?

[zero]

i heard it in the news before it CNG something... they have released LPG powered buses and taxis here.

[mantoy]

good idea nga ang LPG conversion. when i was in bangkok yung ibang mga taxi lpg na ang gamit dun sa trunk nakalagay. kya yung baggage ko di magkasya. sa rear passenger seat ko na lang nilalagay. :D

[theveed]

Meron sa GT (grupo toyota) na thread dun about a company looking for a car that's willing to participate sa conversion, free sya, the only thing they ask is the car being displayed sa car show/trade show next month ata or something.

[theveed]

eto yung message:

"Hi guys!

I am new in this forum. I hope to meet with you sa mga ebs and other gatherings.

Our company, NAIADSS Corp. is currently looking for those interested to convert their cars to bi-fuel engines (gasoline & LPG). So this is great news for all of you who are looking for alternative means of savings lalo na with the rising cost of gasoline.

For your info, you may view the following sites for your reference :

FAQ on AutoGas by Shell

http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?...aq_031203.html



We are willing to convert for FREE any 1300 Corolla model from year 2000-2005. The only requirements are:

(a) Car must be in good condition.
(b) Owner must be willing to display his car * the PICC on Oct. 26, 27 &28 for our marketing event.

For questions and inquiries, you may contact me at 0922-8063210 or email at rkangeles*yahoo.com

Thanks and see you soon!

Ryan
_________________
Ryan Angeles
Auto-Lpg Consultat

0922-8063210
rkangeles*yahoo.com
_________________
Ryan Angeles
Auto-Lpg Consultat

0922-8063210
rkangeles*yahoo.com"

[mantoy]

aba meron na palang Autogas ang shell. so kung saka-sakali pwedeng magpa-refill in any shell station?

[orly_andico]

according to shell's FAQ, the gas consumption will be 10% to 15% higher due to the lower energy content of LPG. also according to shell, it's 25% cheaper (if gasoline reaches 40 pesos per liter, autogas should be 30 per liter).

since i'm consuming around 80L/month of gasoline (3200 * 40/L), that would be ~90L of autogas (2700), a savings of 500 pesos a month. i don't know how much the conversion costs but shell claims, 18000 pesos. So it would take roughly 3 years to recover the cost. at least, cleaner-burning, less engine wear, etc.

[ghosthunter]

_________________
Ryan Angeles
Auto-Lpg Consultat

0922-8063210
rkangeles*yahoo.com

very helpful.... called the guy up just now. Waiting for him to fax the brochures, etc.

[ghosthunter]

according to shell's FAQ, the gas consumption will be 10% to 15% higher due to the lower energy content of LPG. also according to shell, it's 25% cheaper (if gasoline reaches 40 pesos per liter, autogas should be 30 per liter).

since i'm consuming around 80L/month of gasoline (3200 * 40/L), that would be ~90L of autogas (2700), a savings of 500 pesos a month. i don't know how much the conversion costs but shell claims, 18000 pesos. So it would take roughly 3 years to recover the cost. at least, cleaner-burning, less engine wear, etc.

Given your computation of 25% savings by using LGP over gasoline... I consume about P6000 of gasoline a month. At that rate, I should recover the cost of the LPG kit in about 1.7 years.

And that assumes the gasoline price stays at P40/L during that 1.7 years.

[orly_andico]

Given your computation of 25% savings by using LGP over gasoline... I consume about P6000 of gasoline a month. At that rate, I should recover the cost of the LPG kit in about 1.7 years.

And that assumes the gasoline price stays at P40/L during that 1.7 years.

gh,

the amount of savings will go up as prices go up. assuming the price differential remains the same at 25%.

please, could you post the pricing info etc. once you get it from mr. angeles? i also emailed him but no reply so far. i think this is something of interest to all of us here.

not to mention your car runs cleaner, quieter, and with increased maintenance service intervals. but the cost savings isn't that great (although it's still appreciable).

[mbt]

if im not mistaken, mileage per liter is worse with LPG, but mileage per peso is better.

identical lang ba yung performance and everything of LPG with gasoline?

for fleets lang yung shell LPG diba? yung petron meron na rin ata niyan, for fleet use.

[ghosthunter]

I just got off the phone with Ryan Angeles. The price is P30K for the conversion kit.

included with the kit:
lpg evaporator
60L lpg tank to be fitted in the trunk.
fuel guage adapter to show the current fuel level (LPG or gasoline).
euro style interior switches (for the elegant touch )
etc.

The LPG refilling point on the car will be fitted beside the gasoline cap. This means it will use a special valve to refill the LPG tank. Current LPG refill stations were mentioned by Ryan and additional LPG refilling stations are planned. Currently only selected Petron stations have the capacity to refill but Shell will be doing this by end of the year too.

[ghosthunter]

if im not mistaken, mileage per liter is worse with LPG, but mileage per peso is better.

identical lang ba yung performance and everything of LPG with gasoline?

as mentioned by Ryan, LPG's fuel milage is lower than gasoline but it is still cheaper if computed pesos/kilometer.

He also mentioned that the car's performance will be identical and the driver will not know the difference if based on the car's performance.

[theveed]

libre nga ba? buti nacontact mo :D

[Pro Staff]

kahit saang kotse ba pwede yan? i'm planning to install one in my vios kapag tapos na un warranty.

[ghosthunter]

unfortunately they already have the Corolla they were looking for the exhibit.

[ghosthunter]

kahit saang kotse ba pwede yan? i'm planning to install one in my vios kapag tapos na un warranty.

the LPG conversion kits are applicable for any gasoline fed car... carb or efi.

[orly_andico]

30k is kinda steep though... :P

i guess if you commute from cavite or laguna to manila everyday, or from bulacan to manila, it would be worth it. but for us 5000-ish a month gasoline bills, medyo matagal ang recovery period.