Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[mark_t]

I thought that if an engine is built to run on unleaded fuel, valve recession on lpg should not be an issue. Why is it that xoom offers an additive that would prevent valve recession?

Is there really a risk of engine damage because of lpg (aside from those running too lean due to improper tuning)?

Unleaded fuel actually is a fuel that has very minimal lead. It just conforms to a certain market
standard to be called unleaded.

[sirkosero]

went to sm fairview last weekend when i noticed sarado na yung xoom na malapit sa sm fairview. i wonder what happened?

[vinj]

went to sm fairview last weekend when i noticed sarado na yung xoom na malapit sa sm fairview. i wonder what happened?

Xoom is concentrating on conversion and maintenance. AFAIK, the gas operations will be carried on by Clean Fuel eventually.

[sirkosero]

Xoom is concentrating on conversion and maintenance. AFAIK, the gas operations will be carried on by Clean Fuel eventually.

thanks. makes me wonder on the sustainability of their operations considering concentrated na lang talaga sila sa conversion. pag kumonti magpaconvert bka mahirapan na ang negosyo at mawala ang maintenance ng lpg cars...

[vinj]

thanks. makes me wonder on the sustainability of their operations considering concentrated na lang talaga sila sa conversion. pag kumonti magpaconvert bka mahirapan na ang negosyo at mawala ang maintenance ng lpg cars...

Well, I'd guess it is more feasible for Clean Fuel to operate the gas stations because of their size. When i was talking with Xoom, they intend to maintain the operations of the conversion and maintenance, and they're still steadily converting vehicles on a weekly basis from what i see.

[milecord]

Thanks a lot Nick/ Xoom AutoGaz for resurrecting my Korean Closed-Loop system! Salamat din kina Reggie & Marvin (hope I got their names right) for the excellent trouble-shooting! Very good job on my car yesterday.

My Eroom system was installed in my 2002 Ford Lynx in 2007. No problems for three years and I was absolutely happy with the fuel savings and the 'almost-at-par-with-gasoline' performance. At that time, the system cost just a little over Php20k and I was able to recover the initial cost only in a matter of months specially when gas prices were almost hitting Php60 per liter. Problem came sometime 2010 when I loaded lpg not from the my regular stations -- turned out to be dirty. Nasira andar sa lpg. Eroom was already closed at that time and I was forced to rely on the usual lpg station mechanics. Kapa-kapa ang siste ng adjustment, hindi rin nabalik sa dati, so i decided to de-commission the system.

Lately, nagkaron ng budget for a possible upgrade to an SGI system and I approached Nick yesterday. Credits to Nick for not being a hard-sell. Sensing that I was hesitant to spend Php28k for a front end kit, he called Reggie to check whether there's anything wrong with my system. Ibinalik ni Reggie yung doughnut adapter, pinaandar, pugak-pugak, konting adjustment sa vaporizer & buga ng lpg, ABA NABUHAY! Ang pino ng andar kahit pagsipa ng aircon compressor. Marvin checked the emission and accompanied me in the test drive.

A few surprising observations: 1) no part was replaced -- meaning these lpg kits are very durable; 2) my system automatically turns off the electric fuel pump when shifting to lpg, no need for a manual switch which we thought was needed; 3) I'm now running on three-year old lpg stored in my tank since 2010, 1/3 ang laman nya when I decommissioned the system -- hindi pala napapanis ang lpg!

Because of these developments, I'm now seriously considering a next project: an LPG-powered Ford SportTrac, converted of course by XOOM!

[XOOMaster]

Thanks sir milecord. Your good reviews and recommendations keep us committed to our goals. I'm happy we were able to help you sort through the issue with your Linx. We look forward to converting your Ford SportTrac

[XOOMaster]

To our valued clients,

Xoom is business as usual. The place is undergoing renovations by Clean Fuel for the service station. Our office is still open from 8-5pm. just ring us at 920-7763 to sched an appointment. Our technicians are available daily to service your cars. For new conversions scheduling is a must so we can coordinate on where we can do the conversion for you.

Thank you.
Xoom Auto Gaz, Inc.

[XOOMaster]

hi sirkosero, you do have a valid concern but to keep you at ease; conversion is a secondary part of our operations. We have b2b business with gas companies on supply of equipment which is why we decided to let go of operating stations and just concentrate on our core trading business. As what I told Vinj, even if conversions are slowing down we are still committed in keeping the business to continually build the brand and service you our customers.

[achaia]

Just converted my Ford Explorer Sport Trac ... kudos to Nick and team for a job well done.

[glenn manikis]

Sir.. I'm thinking converting our focus to lpg... Whats the diff. Between cheap lpg kits use in taxis vs. Zoom lpg kits? I saw one also along v luna 34k lang....? Mura or mahal ba ito?

[vinj]

Sir.. I'm thinking converting our focus to lpg... Whats the diff. Between cheap lpg kits use in taxis vs. Zoom lpg kits? I saw one also along v luna 34k lang....? Mura or mahal ba ito?

There's a world of difference in safety, performance and aftermarket support. Id recommend the one's installed by Xoom now. Even if you spend 40K, if e car is used regularly mababawi mo cost in a year or two.

[glenn manikis]

Thanks sir... Yung 40k worth po ba maganda na po ba yun?

[glenn manikis]

Help mag sir...

I usually consumes 2-2.5k worth of gas every week... My focus ave. 6 kms. Per liter city driving...

How long would be my ROI?

What do you guys recommend?

Would I get better mileage?

Thanks in advance!!

[vinj]

Help mag sir...

I usually consumes 2-2.5k worth of gas every week... My focus ave. 6 kms. Per liter city driving...

How long would be my ROI?

What do you guys recommend?

Would I get better mileage?

Thanks in advance!!

Per my experience, FC remains the same more or less. If you save 30% on fuel cost at the least from gasoline, you are saving P600 per week if you gas up 2K weekly. Times 52 weeks, 31K na yan in one year.

Before converting, malaking factor that your engine is in good running condition so as to lessen the LPG tuning issues when they install.

[glenn manikis]

Thank you sir....

Baka po mag pa install ako...

A must po ba yung valve saver ba tawag dun? Addl. 5k din po kasi...

[Manilablock]

Thank you sir....

Baka po mag pa install ako...

A must po ba yung valve saver ba tawag dun? Addl. 5k din po kasi...

Consider mo din un space na mawawala since maglalagay ka ng lpg tank, meron iba iiwan uung reserve tyre para dun ilagay ung donut lpg tank.

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[glenn manikis]

Ok sir... When it comes to space ok Lang...

[crazy_boy]

I think pwede naman. Basta wag mo lang idaan sa baha. In other countries (although CNG sila) ganyan din, kung saan saan nakalagay mga tanks basta may space.

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[glenn manikis]

I gas up at unioil east Fairview their sign says 50.15..pero May discount daw private vehicles.. So nasa 48.70 per liter unleaded nila