Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[ghosthunter]

I wonder if there was a way to get an accurate number of vehicles (private & public) converted to Auto-LPG?

[bok_yo]

hi gh, im contemplating on having my fx 7k carb type installed with lpg conversion kit. any good installer shop you recommend south of manila? tnx

[ghosthunter]

hi gh, im contemplating on having my fx 7k carb type installed with lpg conversion kit. any good installer shop you recommend south of manila? tnx

I don't know anyone south of Manila doing Auto-LPG installations.

You can try checking out the ones listed in the link below:

Auto-LPG installers contact information:
http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50159

[bok_yo]

is tartarini a good installer? they quoted 19k parts and installation and will take about 3 days to complete the installation.

[jojo hernandez]

im in davao boss but best move yan conversion of your 7k carb walang hassle. Tartarini is ok but on my sammy its korean and never never had problems with it for a loooong time. Just have it checked at least yearly specially the diaphram it tends to get difformed and its reinforcing aluminum support the repair kit costs 1k complete. mine was checked after 7 yrs hahaha and its difformed humina ang hatak sa high end kaya ko pina check. 30 min job and now sammy is a brute again. 19 k is ok but try to haggle some more or baka manipis naman ang copper tubing or walang plastic clading.

[bisoy]

hello. i am about to buy a 1999 Ford E150 with a FEMA lpg kit installed. i have a few questions regarding the conversion, the lpg kit brand and its maintenance. hope you guys can help me out before i buy the E150. thanks in advance.

1. owner said that this is a dealer installed unit (ford alabang) when ford used to sell fema kits. i tried to google this brand but could not find any reviews. how is this kit? maayos ba? this is an "ecu controlled" device. sorry, im not good with terms.

2. any long term effects of the lpg to our vehicles?

3. for "ecu controlled" lpg devices, wala na tong tuning diba since this is controlled by an ecu?

4. ano maintenance nito? i ask coz i am based in cagayan de oro and i havent seen high end lpg kits here. ang nakikita ko dito are the ones used by taxis. baka kasi may regular maintenance ito and i can't find a technician or a part kung mag break down ito.

5. may "life" ba itong mga kita or is this similar to our vehicles' fuel system na halos lifetime din?

6. i believe the tank for the E150 is located inside the cabin. ano mga comments nyo dito? im a little worried coz my family will be riding in the van. wala ba tong issues? how about rear end collisions? di ba delikado to?

7. fuel quality varies accdg to some brnads. sa mga lpg, may vairation rin ba like higher "octane" rating or saan mas malinis?

thanks in advance. hope u guys can help me out. thanks.

[ghosthunter]

hello. i am about to buy a 1999 Ford E150 with a FEMA lpg kit installed. i have a few questions regarding the conversion, the lpg kit brand and its maintenance. hope you guys can help me out before i buy the E150. thanks in advance.

1. owner said that this is a dealer installed unit (ford alabang) when ford used to sell fema kits. i tried to google this brand but could not find any reviews. how is this kit? maayos ba? this is an "ecu controlled" device. sorry, im not good with terms.

Personally I have not heard of FEMA Auto-LPG before today.

From my Google search:

FEMA is a kit made in Turkey.


Local company is:

FEMA AutoLPG
474 Jaboneros St., San Nicolas, Manila Philippines
Contact Person: Mr. Thomas G. Tan
Designation: Assistant General Manager
Phone: (63 2) 311-1000 / 311-9090

You might want to take note of this info and contact them if they are still open.

2. any long term effects of the lpg to our vehicles?

Auto-LPG itself, no.

But you will need to use non-E10 gasoline in the tank. E10 gasoline spoils within 3 to 4 weeks in the fuel tank. Spoiled gasoline does not burn well and results in either a rough running engine or stalls it completely. Power from the engine is also affected.

Another thing, some Ford trucks and SUVs have a problem with their fuel pump failing if not used. This happened in the case of my brother's Ford Expedition. And replacing it was expensive.

3. for "ecu controlled" lpg devices, wala na tong tuning diba since this is controlled by an ecu?

In theory, the SGI type Auto-LPG (the "ecu-type" you are referring to) does not need to be tuned up after it is properly installed. But sometimes it needs servicing or even parts replacement.

4. ano maintenance nito? i ask coz i am based in cagayan de oro and i havent seen high end lpg kits here. ang nakikita ko dito are the ones used by taxis. baka kasi may regular maintenance ito and i can't find a technician or a part kung mag break down ito.

Maintenance is pretty much down to draining the vaporizer of accumulated water every six or twelve months (depending on engine size).

But if the vaporizer's regulating diaphram goes bad, it will need to be replaced. After replacement, the system will have to be re-tuned using the proper manufacturer's software.

5. may "life" ba itong mga kita or is this similar to our vehicles' fuel system na halos lifetime din?

In theory, the kits should last the life the vehicle but cheaper kits/components have a shorter lifespan like the need for periodic diaphram replacement.

Venturi type Auto-LPG kits seems to be better because its more commonly used and requires less specialized tools and equipment to service.

6. i believe the tank for the E150 is located inside the cabin. ano mga comments nyo dito? im a little worried coz my family will be riding in the van. wala ba tong issues? how about rear end collisions? di ba delikado to?

The tank itself is safe. It can handle more impact forces than your vehicle's body without rupturing. As for any minor leaks, as long as the multi-valve's cover is installed properly any leaked LPG will be safely vented outside the vehicle.

7. fuel quality varies accdg to some brnads. sa mga lpg, may vairation rin ba like higher "octane" rating or saan mas malinis?

Although the actual mix of LPG varies from country to country, the local supply we have is generally the same from brand to brand. So it won't matter if you buy from supplier1 and then supplier2 next week.

[eikichi]

I noticed that my car is having hard starting issues whenever I run it on gas but this does not happen if lpg was used. Do any of you guys experience the same? Here are the scenarios I encounter:

1. start with gas - lpg - turn off with gas --> no problem
2. pure lpg --> no problem
3. pure gas --> expect hard starting
4. gas most of the time - turn off with lpg --> most likely hard starting

The hard starting I encounter sounds like the engine is not cranking and only the starter doing its work. When I get to start the car, engine runs like a flooded carb with very rich exhaust fumes but my car is a fuel injected corolla.

I am concerned with this issue because I am a bit hesitant in long drives now since there are not a lot of lpg stations outside Metro Manila.

[ghosthunter]

I noticed that my car is having hard starting issues whenever I run it on gas but this does not happen if lpg was used. Do any of you guys experience the same? Here are the scenarios I encounter:

1. start with gas - lpg - turn off with gas --> no problem
2. pure lpg --> no problem
3. pure gas --> expect hard starting
4. gas most of the time - turn off with lpg --> most likely hard starting

The hard starting I encounter sounds like the engine is not cranking and only the starter doing its work. When I get to start the car, engine runs like a flooded carb with very rich exhaust fumes but my car is a fuel injected corolla.

I am concerned with this issue because I am a bit hesitant in long drives now since there are not a lot of lpg stations outside Metro Manila.

What gasoline are you using and how long has it been in your tank?

[eikichi]

What gasoline are you using and how long has it been in your tank?

PTT non E10 gas. I normally fill up P500 worth and use that up in 1.5-2 months.

[ghosthunter]

Last time I had problems with my Corolla on gasoline, it was because my fuel line (between the tank and engine) was clogged up. The car ran but with poor power at higher rpms (too lean).

I had it replaced with a new fuel line (two hours but mostly it was waiting for the parts to arrive). I had my gasoline tank flushed and cleaned too while I was there so to prevent this from happening too quickly again.

Alternative source of problem is clogged fuel injectors due to dried up gasoline. It is possible to have the original ones removed and cleaned with ultrasonic cleaner.

[eikichi]

Already had my injectors cleaned last year I think and it was clogged with dried gas. I am also experiencing the poor power at high rpms. Probably same issue as yours. Where did you have the tank flushed and cleaned as well as the new fuel lines? Can you provide the repairs costs too? Thanks.

[ghosthunter]

Already had my injectors cleaned last year I think and it was clogged with dried gas. I am also experiencing the poor power at high rpms. Probably same issue as yours. Where did you have the tank flushed and cleaned as well as the new fuel lines? Can you provide the repairs costs too? Thanks.

Had it done at speedlab but i can't remember how much.

[Jiggs]

Alternative source of problem is clogged fuel injectors due to dried up gasoline. It is possible to have the original ones removed and cleaned with ultrasonic cleaner.

Bro, sorry for hijacking the thread..but i need to ask where did you avail this kind of service? how much kaya for this ultrasonic fuel injectors cleaning? Pls. state the name of shop and contact numbers. thanks.

[kikoteng]

hello. i am about to buy a 1999 Ford E150 with a FEMA lpg kit installed. i have a few questions regarding the conversion, the lpg kit brand and its maintenance. hope you guys can help me out before i buy the E150. thanks in advance.

1. owner said that this is a dealer installed unit (ford alabang) when ford used to sell fema kits. i tried to google this brand but could not find any reviews. how is this kit? maayos ba? this is an "ecu controlled" device. sorry, im not good with terms.

2. any long term effects of the lpg to our vehicles?

3. for "ecu controlled" lpg devices, wala na tong tuning diba since this is controlled by an ecu?

4. ano maintenance nito? i ask coz i am based in cagayan de oro and i havent seen high end lpg kits here. ang nakikita ko dito are the ones used by taxis. baka kasi may regular maintenance ito and i can't find a technician or a part kung mag break down ito.

5. may "life" ba itong mga kita or is this similar to our vehicles' fuel system na halos lifetime din?

6. i believe the tank for the E150 is located inside the cabin. ano mga comments nyo dito? im a little worried coz my family will be riding in the van. wala ba tong issues? how about rear end collisions? di ba delikado to?

7. fuel quality varies accdg to some brnads. sa mga lpg, may vairation rin ba like higher "octane" rating or saan mas malinis?

thanks in advance. hope u guys can help me out. thanks.

The FEMA brand was carried by Lovely Homes Inc located in Binondo as indicated by Ghosthunter.

They're currently carrying the Aldesa brand for LPG kits.

Had my ride installed with an Aldesa LPG kit.

Re your concerns with maintenance, I suggest you call up Lovely Homes and ask them about it. It is a serious concern that you are lcoated in Cagayan de Oro. They might or might not have resellers in your area.

Re safety issues, try to back-read the many pages of this thread. It would ease your concerns about safety of using LPG. I read it all before deciding to go LPG.

Good luck.

[kikoteng]

is tartarini a good installer? they quoted 19k parts and installation and will take about 3 days to complete the installation.

If i remember correctly, tartarini used to quote in the area of 25 to 27t (cant remember exact figure) for a basic LPG kit around May this year.

So, they've already adjusted their prices and that's good news for you.

[kapitan88]

sa mga naka carb na lpg, saan siningit yung petrol cut off valve? was it placed before intake ng fuel pump or sa line before mag carb. The reason i asked is that, mine was placed after ng fuel pump and before intake ng carb, and which is why i think lagi nasisira ang fuel pump ko. I replaced my fuel pump ng march, and then ngayon, nag overflow na naman. I've been using gasoline 1-2 days lang every 2 months. Now naka disconnect na lang muna yung fuel line ko for petrol.

[Louga]

Hello po. I'm interested on having my 2009 innova G Gas converted to LPG but since under warranty pa sya nag dadalawang isip ako. un toyota ba may mga accredit shop/installer kung saan pwede ako magpainstall (I'm considering GreenFuel kasi medyo maganda feedback)?

Sa mga Innova na nagpaconvert, navoid ba un warranty or may special arrangement sa dealer kaya endi navoid? so far 2 pa lng un nakita ko na nagpaconvert (based d2 sa thread). so far ba ok un performance ng engine pag innova? ano maintenance procedure ko every 5T km? Need ko pa patignan lage un kit?

maraming salamat po

[ghosthunter]

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[Mile2]

Hello po. I'm interested on having my 2009 innova G Gas converted to LPG but since under warranty pa sya nag dadalawang isip ako. un toyota ba may mga accredit shop/installer kung saan pwede ako magpainstall (I'm considering GreenFuel kasi medyo maganda feedback)?

Sa mga Innova na nagpaconvert, navoid ba un warranty or may special arrangement sa dealer kaya endi navoid? so far 2 pa lng un nakita ko na nagpaconvert (based d2 sa thread). so far ba ok un performance ng engine pag innova? ano maintenance procedure ko every 5T km? Need ko pa patignan lage un kit?

maraming salamat po

Try to visit TMBC (Manila Bay), I was there last year and they are training on LPG installation. If I remember correctly it was VOGAS their official LPG installer. Talk to Ely Lustanas, service manager.

I did my LPG conversion during my warranty period (1.5 year old palang Innova ko). I did not care on the engine warranty that time Mahigit 2 years na itong LPG kit ko (GreenFuel) and I'm happy with it.