Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[hybrid]

I'm interested in converting to LPG.
Here's the scenario,
The vehicle is a L300, I need to overhaul the engine, so I thought maybe it will be a good idea to change the engine to gas the install an LPG kit.
do you guys think it will be cheaper to run LPG instead of diesel?
Diesel 4d56 2.5L
Gas 4G32 1.6L
Another option is Gas 4G63 2.0L but I'm not sure if this will mate with L300.
Ultimate I think that the LPG will still be cheaper even with the 2.0L engine, am I right?
What do you guys think?

[ghosthunter]

I'm interested in converting to LPG.

LPG = P28/L current price.

Here's the scenario,
The vehicle is a L300, I need to overhaul the engine, so I thought maybe it will be a good idea to change the engine to gas the install an LPG kit.
do you guys think it will be cheaper to run LPG instead of diesel?
Diesel 4d56 2.5L
Gas 4G32 1.6L
Another option is Gas 4G63 2.0L but I'm not sure if this will mate with L300.
Ultimate I think that the LPG will still be cheaper even with the 2.0L engine, am I right?
What do you guys think?

Well, I think it would be better to use the 2.0L gasoline engine, especially if you often use the L300 to haul heavier loads. The 1.6L will just end up being overworked and underpowered as well.

You will just have to consider where to place the LPG tank in your L300. Is you L300 being used to haul cargo or people?

[carbomb]

LPG is still 40% cheaper than gasoline. The more often your use your LPG fueled vehicle, the faster you get back your investment.

If you don't believe in the cost savings of using auto-LPG, then its your loss. Think why thousands of taxi cabs are now running LPG.

so kailangan ko pa palang mag aksaya sa pag gamit ng lpg para lang maramdaman kong nakatipid ako? lpg is an alternative solution for the skyrocketing prices of gasolines. but the real question is until when? so sabi mo nga, kailangan ko ngang gamitin more often yung vehicle just to feel that i am saving. pagtitipid ba yun? well, kung marami kang pera, yes nakakatipid ka but if u r just an ordinary worker earning at least enough for your family, that thing you are saying is not saving. para mo ring sinabing para makatipid ka sa pag bili mo ng donut eh kailangang mag dunkin ka na lang at wag nang mag krispy cream kc sa dunkin eh 10 petot lang, sa krispy cream eh 30 petot so para maramdaman mo yung savings mo, bumili ka na lang ng 3 boxes of dunkin kesa bumili ng one box ng krispy cream para makatipid ka kung ang isang tao ay talagang nagtitipid, di na lang cya bibili ng donut kundi ma mamalenke na lang cya at bibili na lang ng pang araw araw na ulam nila sa pang araw araw. so lets go back with the gasoline thing. so if u want to earn and save more fuel, the permanent solution is to save gas more often by allowing yourself to try public trasport everyday and just use your vehicle kapag kasama mo na lang family mo. just my opinion, nothing personal...really

[ghosthunter]

so kailangan ko pa palang mag aksaya sa pag gamit ng lpg para lang maramdaman kong nakatipid ako?

I didn't say drive around the city aimlessly and purposelessly. I said if you use your vehicle more often, you can realize the cost savings faster. So that means if you have two vehicles, simply using the LPG fueled vehicle over the gasoline vehicle will save you a few pesos ever time you fuel up.

lpg is an alternative solution for the skyrocketing prices of gasolines. but the real question is until when?

Until when you ask? Until the next break through in technology that can make a car even more economical to fuel up with whatever substance. Currently, even hybrid cars are NOT the answer (at least for us). It's because the purchase price of the cheapest available car (Prius) will still require eight or more years to recover the cost of the vehicle against savings in operating costs.

A recent car comparison (in another web-forum) where the Toyota Prius was compared to the Ford Focus turbo diesel, the cars fared about the same in terms of fuel costs. This was done in Metro Manila and normal traffic conditions we have during the week day.

so sabi mo nga, kailangan ko ngang gamitin more often yung vehicle just to feel that i am saving. pagtitipid ba yun?

well, here's my point. If you only drive less than 100km in an average week (like 30 to 70 km a week), it would NOT be economically feasible to convert to LPG since the cost recovery would take more than 3 years. My target would be a maximum of two years to make it feasible to convert a private vehicle to run on LPG.

well, kung marami kang pera, yes nakakatipid ka but if u r just an ordinary worker earning at least enough for your family, that thing you are saying is not saving.

If you can save more than P30,000 a year in fuel cost, why not? You don't have to be rich to realize that every peso saved is like a peso earned, right?

para mo ring sinabing para makatipid ka sa pag bili mo ng donut eh kailangang mag dunkin ka na lang at wag nang mag krispy cream kc sa dunkin eh 10 petot lang, sa krispy cream eh 30 petot so para maramdaman mo yung savings mo, bumili ka na lang ng 3 boxes of dunkin kesa bumili ng one box ng krispy cream para makatipid ka

Your donut analogy is faulty. If I have to buy a dozen donuts, then buying from dunkin donuts will only cost me P120 while if I buy from krispy creme it will cost me P360. So buying from dunkin will save me P240 per transaction.

If I had the need for more donuts, then buying more boxes from dunkin would save me even more. I don't need to buy 5 boxes to see the cost saving. Even buying a SINGLE donut would already save me a few pesos.

so lets go back with the gasoline thing. so if u want to earn and save more fuel, the permanent solution is to save gas more often by allowing yourself to try public trasport everyday and just use your vehicle kapag kasama mo na lang family mo. just my opinion, nothing personal...really

For my personal and business requirements, public transportation is not a viable answer. For some people it is but not for me. I am not forcing you to convert your vehicle to LPG. We all are complaining about the high cost of gasoline. But there are alternatives if we would just take that first step towards it even if those alternatives are not the same for you and me.

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[hybrid]

LPG = P28/L current price.

Well, I think it would be better to use the 2.0L gasoline engine, especially if you often use the L300 to haul heavier loads. The 1.6L will just end up being overworked and underpowered as well.

You will just have to consider where to place the LPG tank in your L300. Is you L300 being used to haul cargo or people?

Placement of the tank won't be a problem, it's an aluminum van for cargo, although the usual load is not heavy.
I just have to find a way to fit the the 2L engine.
Another benefit will be no more smoke belching tickets!

[ghosthunter]

Placement of the tank won't be a problem, it's an aluminum van for cargo, although the usual load is not heavy.
I just have to find a way to fit the the 2L engine.

good luck with your project.

Another benefit will be no more smoke belching tickets!

very true but your van will still be stopped for road side testing from time to time.

[hybrid]

Has anybody tried Manila autogas' or ekogas' kits, are they good? how about the installation?
For the simple carb kits, their prices are cheaper 20-21K

[smdelfin]

Meron na ba pong nagpa-convert ng Vanette?
Thanks!

[webmiester]

Has anybody tried Manila autogas' or ekogas' kits, are they good? how about the installation?
For the simple carb kits, their prices are cheaper 20-21K

As I know Manila Autogas uses different kits. The kit providers I talked to who said they were partnered wit Manila Autogas were turkish kit providers Ultragas (Mike Lim: 09228231270) and Clean Autogas (Sharon Siy: 09228540525 / 09178540524), but I heard that they partnered with a lot of other kit providers

The way I see it, having good relationships with many kit providers helps them get recommendations from them. Im using a kit from Clean Autogas, maganda performance niya, I really like the way their metal parts were molded . It's funny nga e, kasi when I had my car refuelled sa Manila Autogas, sabi sa akin ng gas boy that they were partnered daw with my kit supplier, and he was proud to mention it. It did sort of make me feel that their fuel was very compatible with my car. Im sure he's told a lot of other people using other kits that as well.

Ekogas also seems like an interesting company, so sorry I have no feedback on them.

[carbomb]

Until when you ask? Until the next break through in technology that can make a car even more economical to fuel up with whatever substance. Currently, even hybrid cars are NOT the answer (at least for us). It's because the purchase price of the cheapest available car (Prius) will still require eight or more years to recover the cost of the vehicle against savings in operating costs. If you can save more than P30,000 a year in fuel cost, why not? You don't have to be rich to realize that every peso saved is like a peso earned, right?

break through? r u trying to say that it will take more years for the lpg to be the dominant fuel efficiency/savings in our country? i think sooner or later, the prices of gasoline shall be the same as lpg. di mo ba ina anticipate na pwedeng mangyari yun mr. ghosthunter? what if mangyari yun in less than a year? mababawi mo pa ba yung convertion expenses mo? just think of it. my only comment earlier is wala talaga akong kati-katiwala sa mga lpg convertion which means, i alone and that is on my personal opinion only.