Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[ghosthunter]

cleanfuel at shaw has supply of lpg as of today.

[theveed]

orly: siguro in a year's time madali na abutin ang 5K/mo hehehe.

[ghosthunter]

My main concern is not the "return of investment" time for the LPG conversion kit. It is the dependence on a specific refiller for your tank of LPG. The valve is specially made so your neighborhood LPG store cannot help you refill your LPG fuel tank. Currently the LPG refilling stations are few and far inbetween. But given the LPG conversion will let your car run on both lpg & gasoline, its not really that much of a hassle (yet).

[orly_andico]

yeah... that too. there is no list of gas stations which offer refilling service.
but considering it's 70% propane and 30% butane, pwede kayang gamiting ang natural gas? dami nun sa batangas

potentially cheaper (if you go to batangas regularly...)

[JAYarc]

ser gh, sa petron (auto gasul) meron they charge 30k for carb, 40k+/- efi.. and their 2 (currently) refilling station along e. rodriguez ave(c5) pasig & gil puyat cor mkti ave..pero im wondering if refilling cng is ok for lpg kitz..since cng is cheaper by 35~45% local produce pa..

the best thing, you can reverse back to petrol vis versa..

[orly_andico]

ang narinig ko, if you're a taxi driver, laki laki ng savings. kasi nasa 1000/day ang gas bill ng taxi. so if you can save 100/day even... in less than a year bawi ka na.

[baiskee]

ang narinig ko, if you're a taxi driver, laki laki ng savings. kasi nasa 1000/day ang gas bill ng taxi. so if you can save 100/day even... in less than a year bawi ka na.

yep...may napanood ako (forgot the show) na sa taxi units nakakbit...tipid talaga sila dahil lagi silang may biyahe.

[orly_andico]

ryan got back to me. he says LPG currently costs PHP 22/liter. compared to gasoline at PHP 34/liter (a 35% difference). that makes the savings even more substantial.

[ghosthunter]

current unleaded gasoline price at shell/ortigas ave is P36.07/L

[orly_andico]

crap... really? is this already including E-VAT adjustment?
i had a full tank last week, i could've sworn it was 34-ish to 35-ish pa at that time..

although mahal pa rin mag cough up ng 30,000 for that conversion kit.

[ghosthunter]

crap... really? is this already including E-VAT adjustment?
i had a full tank last week, i could've sworn it was 34-ish to 35-ish pa at that time..

although mahal pa rin mag cough up ng 30,000 for that conversion kit.

so far its a P0.50/L increase every week. Without E-VAT yet.

that LPG conversion is looking better and better every week. Even with the P30K price.

[orly_andico]

hmm. but LPG prices track gasoline prices. So.. i guess that's 36/L gasoline, 23/L LPG. difference of 13 pesos per liter. Full tank 40L (1440 pesos * 220km = 6.5 pesos per kilometer gas, 920 pesos * 200km = 4.6 pesos per kilometer).

so if you drive 30km/day, that's 660km/month or 4300 pesos/month gas and 3000 pesos/month LPG. recovery period would then be roughly two years. still a long time.

but a cheaper solution than buying a fuel-efficient car if the only goal is to save fuel.

[ghosthunter]

hmm. but LPG prices track gasoline prices. So.. i guess that's 36/L gasoline, 23/L LPG. difference of 13 pesos per liter. Full tank 40L (1440 pesos * 220km = 6.5 pesos per kilometer gas, 920 pesos * 200km = 4.6 pesos per kilometer).

so if you drive 30km/day, that's 660km/month or 4300 pesos/month gas and 3000 pesos/month LPG. recovery period would then be roughly two years. still a long time.

but a cheaper solution than buying a fuel-efficient car if the only goal is to save fuel.

Thats the bigger picture. LPG conversion is cheaper than buying a new fuel efficient car.

And with the bi-fuel system (gasoline & LPG) you can drive from metro manila to baguio and back without the need to refuel along the way.

As for my monthly milage, I do about 800-900km a month. So the payback time is still slightly more than 1.5 years even for me.

[buknoy2002]

probably kya mahal conversion kit, kontilang nag o offer.

if marami na mag offer ng conversion kit, hopefully the 30k would significantly go down

[diesoline]

i had a chat with someone early this evening while in the queue at the printshop here in baguio city. i noticed kasi the sheaf of leaflets he was holding. he is a dealer for bp gasul, an outfit that will introduce the lpg conversion kit here. he told me the kit costs P25k.

[nugundam93]

mukhang makakatipid ako dito ah...

all the more reason to support my regular going from QC to paranaque. hahaha!

so downside lang nito is you lose some trunk space right? waht about the safety specs ng tank itself?

[bilog]

according to my agent you will save at least 10 peso per liter compared to gasoline. As for the cost, the last time i heard it's 26k for carb injectors and 36k for EFI engines.(considering it's 4 cylinder)

you will definitely lose trunk space if you will install lpg cylinder in your trunk. Just to give you an idea on how big the cylinder for the LPG, imagine your regular 11kg cylinder that you use in your house. Double it and picture it without the ring collars. No room for boom box anymore.
They say that the cylinder itself is safe, just dont expect it to withstand a rear end collision with a train. The fittings a gas line is made with durable rubber not copper, that is flexible enough in case of frontal crash.

[buknoy2002]

you will definitely lose trunk space if you will install lpg cylinder in your trunk. Just to give you an idea on how big the cylinder for the LPG, imagine your regular 11kg cylinder that you use in your house. Double it and picture it without the ring collars. No room for boom box anymore.
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so di sya kasya sa kia pride ko, pero wlakaya smaaller na lpg tank?

[mhelskie]

what hose or fuel line will they use for the lpg?

[pixelparadigm]

what's the difference nga pala between CNGs and LPGs?