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    #41
    Quote Originally Posted by essjei55 View Post
    Okay naman, Sir. Satisfied naman sa oto. 2nd car ko pero 1st brand new. 😊

    Wala namang sakit ng ulo sa performance. Badtrip lang sa nagtrip sakin ginuhitan gamit ng susi yung 4 door panels. Sobrang badtrip!

    How's yours, Boss? Nasa galaan ka ba?
    Sorry bro. Wrong attachment, it was supposed to be for bro minicarph....

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    #42
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    hirap na ako mag-park ng walang rev camera these days coz malalaki na ang sasakyan, I ordered the Z71 not primarily because it has the 4x4 package on it, but also because it has a rev cam. medyo nag-iisip na ako i-cancel coz ive scanned thru the Chevy Trailblazer club Phils, eh ang common problem ata ng Traiblazer eh alternator malfunction in just more than a year, an owner got towed from Tarlac to Greenhills



    MUX - ayaw ko mukang utility vehicle
    mOnty - ayaw ko kasi hindi mukang SUV, mukang soccer mom na tinaas
    Eve - meron na ako wildtrak, eh likod lang pinalitan kun sakali
    TBZ - ok na ok ang Z71, pero after reading the complaints in FB page, and my parking neighbor in the condo shifted from pre-facelift TBZ to Fort in just a year, tapos pag tinanong ko bakit, wala lang gusto lang daw. hinde, hinde ako naniniwala, eh tuso yun kapitbahay kung yun eh, hindi magpapatalo yun (selling the TBZ so low) unless may nagkaproblem din sya

    ngaun, I checked the Fort specs and was surprised to see that all models dont have the camera. yes pati yun totl walang rev cam. anu ba yan? although AVT lang yan, andale naman bilhan ng compatible rev camera, ang nakakainis eh madami siguro babaklasin plastic side moldings sa interior and even the dash intself para lang pa daanin yun wire. di naman uso wireless camera sa car tulad ng CCTV. nakakainis!, mag Montero Premium na nga lang ako! at least kumpleto na! bwiset!

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    and again why do I need the camera, naibangga ko recently ang wildtrak ko while parking in BGC coz I got so many things on my minds, kung wala pa cam yun, mas grabe pa siguro bangga
    get a driver.
    siya na ang bahala sa reversing ng sasakyan nyo.
    siya na rin ang magdadala sa pagawaan, in case may masira.

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    #43
    ung mga trailer truck nga walang mga reverse camera..imagine.pero hanep sa atrasan..:grin

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    #44
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    Yeah.. my friends have their cars installed with back camera.. when they do reverse parking.. i still see them using their rearview and side mirrors.. back camera is just for show. And will sometimes confuse you..
    it is not for show. it is useful especially at night or on dark parking areas since the camera has night vision.
    in case of SUV which are tall. if your are just looking at the rear view mirror there is still a blind spot on the lower part which the rear view camera can see.
    bottom line is rearcam is very useful. TS might want to say why fortuner has no backing cam compared to its counterpart who has standard gadget.

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    #45
    Quote Originally Posted by KcireReaver View Post
    it is not for show. it is useful especially at night or on dark parking areas since the camera has night vision.
    in case of SUV which are tall. if your are just looking at the rear view mirror there is still a blind spot on the lower part which the rear view camera can see.
    bottom line is rearcam is very useful. TS might want to say why fortuner has no backing cam compared to its counterpart who has standard gadget.
    Nah... i look first to where i will park on reverse if there is any obstruction like pots, small post etc.. then i do reverse park.. thats the right thing to do..

    But if you insist on a reverse camera.. studies suggest that the optimal video position should be on the rear view mirror and not on the HU especially when your HU is placed too low on the dashboard

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    #46
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    Nah... i look first to where i will park on reverse if there is any obstruction like pots, small post etc.. then i do reverse park.. thats the right thing to do..

    But if you insist on a reverse camera.. studies suggest that the optimal video position should be on the rear view mirror and not on the HU especially when your HU is placed too low on the dashboard
    the point it is more convinient since you dont need to go out of your car para lang tignan kung may mga obstructions na di nakikita sa rearview mirror kasi makikita mo na sa HU mo through reversecam at syempre kapag madilim kitang kita mo kasi may night vision nga. pwede mo rin sya maisagad without worrying na maibabangga mo since kitang kita mo na sa camera ung likod ng car.

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    #47
    Quote Originally Posted by maxpedition View Post
    dati nga masaya ka na sa box type lancer mo. 🤣 ngayon gusto mo pa reverse camera 😂😂
    True! Hahaha

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    #48
    Reminder... please don't attack something just because you don't have it in your car. So Be objective and see it as it is. A rear cam ADDS value, safety, precaution, convenience whether you like it or not (or whether you have it or not). Distraction...?? You can opt not to use it... at least it's there when you need it.... rainy days, sudden obstacle like dogs or kids (yikes), etc....

    If you are to be presented with 2 identical cars except one doesn't have a rear cam and the other one has at the same price... i'm sure majority if not everybody will choose the latter. ;)

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    #49
    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    Nah... i look first to where i will park on reverse if there is any obstruction like pots, small post etc.. then i do reverse park.. thats the right thing to do..

    But if you insist on a reverse camera.. studies suggest that the optimal video position should be on the rear view mirror and not on the HU especially when your HU is placed too low on the dashboard
    Bababa ka to check, e pag sakay mo pala e may batang biglang tumakbo at humarang sa likod ng suv. Pano ka? E kung too busy yung bata naglalaro

    Personally kaya ko mag atras ng 6 wheeler truck na side mirror lang gamit, pero very useful talaga ang rear camera kaya meron ito sa personal cars namin. Yang mga batang nasa kalsada ang nakakatakot e

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    #50
    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    Bababa ka to check, e pag sakay mo pala e may batang biglang tumakbo at humarang sa likod ng suv. Pano ka? E kung too busy yung bata naglalaro
    this! this is the main reason why reverse cams were first installed on cars, because there were many accidents specially in the US. they had to find a way to stop killing their children when backing out from their driveways.

    so no it is not useless if it is meant to save lives. ok lang magmagaling basta magaling ka nga talaga. pero lahat naman magaling na driver until you kill someone. then you'll have 6-12 years feeling sorry inside your jail cell.

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    #51
    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    Bababa ka to check, e pag sakay mo pala e may batang biglang tumakbo at humarang sa likod ng suv. Pano ka? E kung too busy yung bata naglalaro

    Personally kaya ko mag atras ng 6 wheeler truck na side mirror lang gamit, pero very useful talaga ang rear camera kaya meron ito sa personal cars namin. Yang mga batang nasa kalsada ang nakakatakot e

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    Bakit ka naman bababa? Pwede ka naman tumapat dun sa spot to check then tsaka ka mag position paatras? Ngaun sa bata na biglang tumakbo.. dapat umiikot mata mo sa rearview at side mirror kasi sa side mirror mo makikita yung biglang tumawid..

    Wala din pinagkaiba yan dun sa bumaba ka tapos may batang naglaro sa harap ng kotse mo na nakaupo.. wala nga kayo front cam eh

    Ngaun sabi ko nga kung mag rear camera kayo dapat yung video nasa rear view mirror din at wala sa HU..

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    ts now



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    #53
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    get a driver.
    siya na ang bahala sa reversing ng sasakyan nyo.
    siya na rin ang magdadala sa pagawaan, in case may masira.

    nabangga ko pickup kasi akala ko naka-Everest ako, pero syempre naalala ko di naman ako bumile ng Everest. but the point is sa sobrang dami ng problema sa fast paced living here in the city, nakalimutan ko na pickup pala dala at hindi SUV, eh mas mahaba ang bed nuon. usually kasi meter ko din pag tumama na ang gulong sa tire guard gutter ng mga parking lots, but this is only true to suvs, so hayun mas mahaba likod pickup, binangga ko yun railing ng BGC parking lot even if may rear cam ako

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    yun reverse cam, pag nagka-meron na kayo hahanap-hanapin nyo, now, 2 of my cars have it. it's a MUST na! and the Fortuner being the most expensive among the 5 PPVs tapos hinde man lang mabigyan ng rear cam, sobrang LET DOWN naman. nagtitiis na nga lang sa entry level no leather seats at 17" rims yun mga tao para lang magka-Fort, tapos rear cam lang wala. eh mataas likod nyan, you cant see everything lalo na nga kung may aso or bata or unano or taong nakakita ng bente sa ilalim ng rear bumper mo

    saka, isang nakita usefulness ng rear cam eh kung mag-withdraw sa aTM ang kasama mo tapos waiting ka sa daan, you can always shift to reverse kung may tao sa likod, pero ipreno mo, lalo na kung umuulan o gabi, at least parang pede mo gawin surveillance na din. lalo na HoT car pa, yan mainit sa carjacker ang Toyota. the rear cam can help if somebody approaching or sneaking

    so Toyota, kabitan nyo naman ng rear cam, kawawa naman mga constituents nyo oh, pinakamarami PPV buyers, majority walang rear cam hahaha! kakahiya

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    #54
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    OB, wala ka naman din makikita sa reverse camera at nakaharang yung bike rack mo sa likod.
    fafa yebs, no I dont have bike rack, i dont even have a bike. so primitive exercise for me na yun mga ganyan, I do Dojo and aero training, mas pumapayat pa ako kaysa sa mga ganyan na mag-bike at gagastos ng tig 100K na bike at bike rack tapos lalamon ng sinigang o bulalo sa taas ng bundok ng tanay lol

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    #55
    ^^^ binenta mo na yung 86?

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    #56
    Kalokohan naman mas okay walang reverse cam. Masyado naman fanboy. Sobrang galing!

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    #57
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    ts now



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    Hahaha! Daming pumatol kay OB!
    3.5k na add-on lang sa fort, ginawa pang thread.
    Dapat shutdown na itong thread[emoji51]


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    #58
    Quote Originally Posted by JJB View Post
    Hahaha! Daming pumatol kay OB!
    3.5k na add-on lang sa fort, ginawa pang thread.
    Dapat shutdown na itong thread[emoji51]


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    may mahabang sagot sa lahat nang challenge.
    but he's tripping on his lines...

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    #59
    Nag umpisa ako car noon na aircon, am/fm radio lang, pero ngayon ay kailangan ko na ng reverse cam dahil malaking tulong for extra help and safety sa pag park ng kotse. Kung bibili ako Fortuner ay siguradong magpapalagay ako ng reverse cam kaagad.

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    #60
    Quote Originally Posted by K.I.L.L. View Post
    I don't think a reverse camera is a deal breaker. And if you can't reverse without a camera, you don't deserve your license.

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    I totally agree!

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