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  1. Join Date
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    #11
    not that the 1.3 is a bad car pero for your purposes practically wala atang advantage ang 1.3 vios over the 1.5.

    buying second hand price difference will probably be miniscule year for year. ang nakikita ko lang baka mas marami kang pag pipilian na 1.3 models over the 1.5 which is still not a bad thing

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    #12
    Pansin ko lang po, price is about the same for 2015 1.5 (old engine + 4AT) and 2018 1.3 (new engine + CVT). Kung city driving lang madalas, siguro halos hindi mahalata ang power difference pero maappreciate ang fuel savings in the long run.

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    #13
    Quote Originally Posted by sirkosero View Post
    if its a 2015 and below, get the 1.5 engine. Preferably the automatic.

    I had a 2014 vios 1.3 Manual. Fuel economy goes to barely 8km/li for regular city driving. Makati traffic will yield barely 5km/li.

    Flip side i still have a 2003 vios 1.5 AT. Fuel economy is 11km/li upwards. Vios from 2003-2016 both share the same NZ family engine.

    3rd gen vios has a heavier body. Said to have an additional 50kgs from its predecessor kaya malakas sa gas. For people who had 1st or 2nd gen vios, the resounding complain is malakas sa gas ang 3rd gen. Even toyota acknowledges this thats why they brought in a new engine with cvt that is kinda better mated to the body.

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    Yun actually di ko magets sa Vios gen na yan.
    Kung 50kgs heavier lang yung gross vehicle weight compared to before, parang isang small build adult lang yun e. Hindi dapat ganun kalaki naging effect sa performance/fc kung yun lang nagbago.

    Hindi pwedeng sabihin na sa weight lang yung reason ng penalty kung 50kgs difference. Malabo din dahil sa air resistance kasi below 60kph naman city driving.

    Mechanical tuning siguru nung sinalpak nila sa 3rd gen body or may losses dahil humaba siya ng kaunti?

    Parang anlabo talaga nung nangyari in that gen. Same sa 2008/2009 atlis na single vvti. Tumakaw din from first gen altis compared nung year 2001. Lumaki din body nung altis nun compared to previous gen, pero iba talaga tuning nila dahil yung response ng makina to throttle inputs parang humina tlga. Maybe due to emission standards na humigpit. Sinakal nila yung makina.

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Yun actually di ko magets sa Vios gen na yan.
    Kung 50kgs heavier lang yung gross vehicle weight compared to before, parang isang small build adult lang yun e. Hindi dapat ganun kalaki naging effect sa performance/fc kung yun lang nagbago.

    Hindi pwedeng sabihin na sa weight lang yung reason ng penalty kung 50kgs difference. Malabo din dahil sa air resistance kasi below 60kph naman city driving.

    Mechanical tuning siguru nung sinalpak nila sa 3rd gen body or may losses dahil humaba siya ng kaunti?

    Parang anlabo talaga nung nangyari in that gen. Same sa 2008/2009 atlis na single vvti. Tumakaw din from first gen altis compared nung year 2001. Lumaki din body nung altis nun compared to previous gen, pero iba talaga tuning nila dahil yung response ng makina to throttle inputs parang humina tlga. Maybe due to emission standards na humigpit. Sinakal nila yung makina.
    Paghalungkat sa mga lumang articles, the 1st gen weighs just 900+kgs, while the 3rd gen is heavier by over 100kgs.

    Siguro may factor din nga yung shift to Euro 4 compliance, kaya mas nasakal.

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    #15
    1.3 manual dual vvt-i ang gamit ko consisted naman siya sa 9km/L Mix driving, Ewan ko lang mas matipid daw ang single vvti pero go for 1.5 minsan kase mas matipid ang malaki engine displacement kase di hirap ang hatak especially pag punuan palagi

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    #16
    vios 2011 1.5g at gamit ko. okay na okay tlga
    fuel consumption: 10-12 mixed, express 16km/L
    walang k problema sa batak,
    wala pang palya, low maintenance.

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    #17
    A/T for city driving convenience.

    Vios 1.3 weighs the same as a vios 1.5. So the 1.3 engine will be more stressed compared to the 1.5, needs to rev up more than the 1.5 pulling the same weight. 1.5 will have less wear on the engine. 1.5 will also have better fuel economy that 1.3. This last may seem hard to believe but it is a proven fact already the bigger engine is more efficient pulling the same weight.

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