Is traction control and stability control important?

[GTi]

Impossible, 4x4 SUV with lockers and mud tires got stuck and overtaken by 4x2 jeepney? Baka naman nilagyan ng kadena gulong or naka lock differential yung jeepney or baka yung SUV open differential lang.

I believe the most likely reason would be that the jeepney driver simply knows where the rocky parts of the river are considering that it is part of his daily route, and the offroaders went straight to the soft mud.

[dr. d]

it's like insurance: you pay good money for it, then pray that you never need of it..
but it does make you feel better, knowing you have it.

[monty_GTV]

I am planning to buy a pickup. Is stability and traction control important? Need some advise please.

there are at least 4 pick-ups you can shortlist in the market, ford ranger, nissan navara, mitsu strada and chevrolet colorado. all have their own safety features. i think to single out just the stability and traction control to limit your selection is not practical. these brands have been plying on our highways and terrains for quite some time now and they've proven their roadworthiness. test drive each one of them, compare their rated engine powers, check their driving and riding comfort, then decide how deep is your pocket...

[gsprimetime]

it's like insurance: you pay good money for it, then pray that you never need of it..
but it does make you feel better, knowing you have it.

Well said dr. D

[gsprimetime]

there are at least 4 pick-ups you can shortlist in the market, ford ranger, nissan navara, mitsu strada and chevrolet colorado. all have their own safety features. i think to single out just the stability and traction control to limit your selection is not practical. these brands have been plying on our highways and terrains for quite some time now and they've proven their roadworthiness. test drive each one of them, compare their rated engine powers, check their driving and riding comfort, then decide how deep is your pocket...

I wanted the ford ranger they had 5 star safety rating in other countries, I was ready to buy until I found out they took everything out. Strada very fast my wife likes the look but rear passenger protection is not as good as others. Didn't look at Nissan and Chevy. As Dr d says, it's like insurance. Thanks

[gsprimetime]

Hi, I just got more confused. Anyone know what the moose test is

[niky]

Hi, I just got more confused. Anyone know what the moose test is

A Moose test is an emergency lane change test. You make a car take an S-turn (suddenly left then suddenly right) at higher and higher speeds until it fails to return to lane on the second turn.

Stability control can help in a moose test, but the flaw in this kind of test is the idea that a normal driver will be able to avoid a moose. Let alone perform the arm-twirling heroics necessary to return the car to its original lane. In most cases, you try to turn and brake and stop instead of trying heroically to merge back into the exact same lane at over 80 km/h! If you're an idiot and do the latter, ala the Moose test, stability control will help. If you're smart and simply swerve and stop, ABS is all you need.


We do something similar with the emergency slalom at the Philippine Car of the Year Tests. In this case, it shows the agility of the vehicle, and its ability to avoid obstacles.

(Despite what it looks like, the Foton is actually performing quite well up there.)

[GTi]

^Perhaps you can publish the results of the whole battery of COTY-P tests for all vehicles tested instead of just announcing the winners. That'll be a very authoritative reference for the automotive community.

[Boy Bastos]

Impossible, 4x4 SUV with lockers and mud tires got stuck and overtaken by 4x2 jeepney? Baka naman nilagyan ng kadena gulong or naka lock differential yung jeepney or baka yung SUV open differential lang.

Trail/path knowledge my friend.

[niky]

^Perhaps you can publish the results of the whole battery of COTY-P tests for all vehicles tested instead of just announcing the winners. That'll be a very authoritative reference for the automotive community.

The idea is to hopefully publish a yearbook or an annual. Tech results could be published, if so, but qualitative test results are proprietary and confidential.

I'd imagine each report would read like a market research, without the raw numbers. I'd love to work on such a project.

[A121]

Yes. It's nice to have.

OT: We use a Mitsubishi Adventure to explore the unknown. Got stuck once in soft sand. I rocked the car back and forth. It got out of the ditch. Some of my colleagues though did a river crossing with it. Natawid daw ng tricycle kaya sinubukan nila. LOL

[baludoy]

On a related note, my vehicle's traction control icon has lit up. The car is driving fine with no unusual noise nor dragging of some sort.

I guess I'll have to do a more thorough check later.

[oj88]

On a related note, my vehicle's traction control icon has lit up. The car is driving fine with no unusual noise nor dragging of some sort.

I guess I'll have to do a more thorough check later.

Common causes would be missing or erroneous tire speed sensor readings from one or more wheel hubs, but checking for DTCs would be a good start. If the issue is local to the traction control system (TCS), like problems with the speed sensors, the codes would likely start with a Cxxxx (Chassis). If the TCS is the problem, you might get a Pxxxx (Powertrain) code, if the ECM is not getting a signal from the TCS.

On the majority of vehicles, the TCS is integrated into the ABS module.

[carxynogen]

On a related note, my vehicle's traction control icon has lit up. The car is driving fine with no unusual noise nor dragging of some sort.

I guess I'll have to do a more thorough check later.

Anong car po yan? Baka sign lang na need replace new battery yung car.

[baludoy]

Common causes would be missing or erroneous tire speed sensor readings from one or more wheel hubs, but checking for DTCs would be a good start. If the issue is local to the traction control system (TCS), like problems with the speed sensors, the codes would likely start with a Cxxxx (Chassis). If the TCS is the problem, you might get a Pxxxx (Powertrain) code, if the ECM is not getting a signal from the TCS.

On the majority of vehicles, the TCS is integrated into the ABS module.

Apparently, the main cause is a leaky brake caliper. Ubos Ang brake fluid Ang reason kung bakit umilaw iyong vsa icon.

The problem is Hindi kaya Nung caliper kit na available sa market kaya buong assembly Ang need palitan.

Anong car po yan? Baka sign lang na need replace new battery yung car.

Naisip ko din iyong low batt bro Kaso Ang culprit brake caliper na Pala. Malakas Ang leak sa brake fluid kaya naubos iyong brake fluid.

Honda civic fd 2 Pala iyong kotse.