Toyota Prado diesel TX-L or hyundai Maxcruz?

[ronw123w124]

Prado definitely.

[EQAddict]

What year was the Prado introduced (the current model) ?

[vinj]

^AFAIK, 2009. I'd expect mga 6-7 years ang lifespan so perhaps by 2015 at the earliest ang model change.

[kpy555]

To be honest was gonna get a mustang but had to be more practical hehe. So its down to these two. I like the maxcruz speed and tech. But landcruiser as a nameplate is legendary as well. And they hold value so well. And its built to last.

So this is tough.

This would be my formal car and out of town car.

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I was exactly on the same boat last December and after all considerations - from Mustang 5.0, Prado (Local Gas) and Explorer - I ended up with a LC200. No regrets. It just needs a little getting used to because as you said, it's big and wide.

The LC200 does not drink diesel heavily - around 6.5km/l city driving - not bad for a V8. Its tremendous torque helps move it fast enough below 1,500 RPM.

The Prado, when I test drove one, is kinda stiff, especially if unloaded with passengers. I drove a gas version and engine response is smooth, although the 4.0 V6 needs a little more effort to get the Prado going faster. However, the owner told me it drinks gas big time. I don't know about the diesel but based on reviews I saw on the net, it also performs well and can even beat a Range Rover on the mountainside.

As for the Maxcruz, it's just a long wheelbase Santa Fe and I recommend you to get a Santa Fe instead if you are not sitting 6 passengers all the time. Having the same 2.2 engine, the Santa Fe may be more economical due to lighter weight.

For long-term ownership, I would really suggest a Toyota. Just look at how many older Prados are still on the road and most of them looks good.

[kpy555]

What year was the Prado introduced (the current model) ?

2009 when the current 150-Series Prado came out.

[IMm29]

I'm biased. So I'll go with the Prado.

I used to drive a Gen 1.5 Expedition for a time, so I had gotten used to that size of SUV. Not so hard to get used to, although when I switched to a Prado (LC120), I did feel a bit of a pinch in terms of space, but much better manueverability, coz of the smaller body. There's a van anyway for loading what the Prado can't handle. And for EQAddict, I do believe the LC200 was considered, but was too big.

[EQAddict]

Okay leaning now to diesel Prado and will try the LC200 as well. Its just so massive.

Can anyone tell me what are the different variants of the diesel Prado? I see tx-l, vx, gx, dubai, local, etc. im getting confused (and i usually know cars....)




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[IMm29]

Well, the gray market offerings mess the whole listing up. More options nga naman.

I think the gray market ones come closer to lc200 in price though.

[kpy555]

Okay leaning now to diesel Prado and will try the LC200 as well. Its just so massive.

Can anyone tell me what are the different variants of the diesel Prado? I see tx-l, vx, gx, dubai, local, etc. im getting confused (and i usually know cars....)




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Gray market units I saw offer TX-L and VX trims, with the VX as top of the line model. Normally, the main differences are: seat material, wheel size, audio/navigation system, additional functions like traction control, auto-levelling headlamps, etc. Both can come in either 2.7L Gas, 4.0L Gas and 3.0 Diesel. You just have to specify the model you want. I saw some ads selling Prado VX 3.0L Diesel at around 3.3M - which is cheaper than the local units which are being sold for 3.8M.

I suggest you browse through an owner's manual so you can see the many options that can be equipped in a Prado.

If you decide to buy the 4.0L version, the local unit in VX trim is very much complete already and price is good.

[EQAddict]

Only considering diesel variants. But the LC200 I looked at (my friend's) looks really nice. I like the facelifted ones too with the DRLs. Of course its about a million bucks more expensive so I have to be really really sure about my choice.

[IMm29]

Like what kpy555 said, the gray market units offer a lot more tech as an upside. Downside would be the additional price and perhaps more things to break with more tech.

My LC120, for instance, is a local unit, so it's pretty bare -- similar perhaps to the features on a Fortuner with a little more. The gray market unit of the same model had more features, for a premium. Since I've not seen the gray market version, and I don't take the Prado trailing, I've never had the need for the other tech except perhaps for more power.

The TMPI LC150 has more features, although I would expect the gray market one to have even more. It's now a question if you're ok with the local features, and/or of the gray market features are things you would commonly use or would matter to you.

And then there's the LC200. I think the gray market LC150 gets priced close to the local LC200. If you're getting the local LC150, then there would be that big price gap vs the local LC200. But if you're going gray LC150, the price gap gets smaller, so you have to think about if you want the bigger beast.

[SiRbossR]

I'd take the Prado VX in Pearl White. It's just a dream to look at.

Q: are all Prado Gray units has the Spare wheel at the back? or does it still depend on variant?

Having the spare wheel underneath the car looks better.


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[EQAddict]

Well I got bitten by the 'thrifty' bug so I got something much cheaper and unrelated instead:



Anyways, thanks for the inputs. In the end I got something more affordable hehe (forester XT) and its quite fun pala! . Next time na lang for the 'big boy' diesel SUVs .... maybe in a few years hehe.

Wont be buying cars for a bit (years). Save mode muna.

[IMm29]

Was actually about to ask if your latest purchase (which you posted in a different thread) meant you weren't going for the big boy diesels anymore.

Answer received.

Congrats!

[ano727]

Well I got bitten by the 'thrifty' bug so I got something much cheaper and unrelated instead:



Anyways, thanks for the inputs. In the end I got something more affordable hehe (forester XT) and its quite fun pala! . Next time na lang for the 'big boy' diesel SUVs .... maybe in a few years hehe.

Wont be buying cars for a bit (years). Save mode muna.

Congrats EQAddict! So what was the deciding factor why you chose the Subby? And you compared it with which other options in the end?

[EQAddict]

Its kinda OT already but was thinking the Prado and LC200 might have all new models in two years time. Spending that much money on something that is almost due for a model change might cause me severe buyers remorse. And when I say 'severe' I mean it as they are expensive hehe.

Also since I sold my Jazz, was always looking for a fun daily driver with paddle shifters. The XV (smaller version) was always on my mind but when I saw the XT (bigger brother) when I brought in my Legacy for servicing I was smitten with all the tech stuff. And 8 speed flappy paddles are always going to be a big draw for me. So I said what the heck. Spend less money, buy something that's all new and save up in a few years time for an all new Toyota big diesel suv. I have my trailblazer and my explorer naman for now to keep me company if I needed SUV capability.

Its certainly not as macho as the landcruisers and it doesn't have their presence but I'm okay with that. Got it for fun driving. It delivers on that. Small enough to toss around, turbo, paddle shifters, awd, drl, unassuming.



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[imperialv]

congrats... Ganda ng bagong forester.

Well I got bitten by the 'thrifty' bug so I got something much cheaper and unrelated instead:



Anyways, thanks for the inputs. In the end I got something more affordable hehe (forester XT) and its quite fun pala! . Next time na lang for the 'big boy' diesel SUVs .... maybe in a few years hehe.

Wont be buying cars for a bit (years). Save mode muna.

[IMm29]

Definitely a good buy. Kahit OT. Hahaha!

Its kinda OT already but was thinking the Prado and LC200 might have all new models in two years time. Spending that much money on something that is almost due for a model change might cause me severe buyers remorse. And when I say 'severe' I mean it as they are expensive hehe.

Also since I sold my Jazz, was always looking for a fun daily driver with paddle shifters. The XV (smaller version) was always on my mind but when I saw the XT (bigger brother) when I brought in my Legacy for servicing I was smitten with all the tech stuff. And 8 speed flappy paddles are always going to be a big draw for me. So I said what the heck. Spend less money, buy something that's all new and save up in a few years time for an all new Toyota big diesel suv. I have my trailblazer and my explorer naman for now to keep me company if I needed SUV capability.

Its certainly not as macho as the landcruisers and it doesn't have their presence but I'm okay with that. Got it for fun driving. It delivers on that. Small enough to toss around, turbo, paddle shifters, awd, drl, unassuming.



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[renzo_d10]

Dapat nagmustang ka nalang.

Kidding aside, congrats on your new XT. That's a car I definitely wouldn't mind spending so much gas on. Sulit naman sa bilis. Heh heh

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[niky]

Its kinda OT already but was thinking the Prado and LC200 might have all new models in two years time. Spending that much money on something that is almost due for a model change might cause me severe buyers remorse. And when I say 'severe' I mean it as they are expensive hehe.

Also since I sold my Jazz, was always looking for a fun daily driver with paddle shifters. The XV (smaller version) was always on my mind but when I saw the XT (bigger brother) when I brought in my Legacy for servicing I was smitten with all the tech stuff. And 8 speed flappy paddles are always going to be a big draw for me. So I said what the heck. Spend less money, buy something that's all new and save up in a few years time for an all new Toyota big diesel suv. I have my trailblazer and my explorer naman for now to keep me company if I needed SUV capability.

Its certainly not as macho as the landcruisers and it doesn't have their presence but I'm okay with that. Got it for fun driving. It delivers on that. Small enough to toss around, turbo, paddle shifters, awd, drl, unassuming.



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Be better if they had an XV with the turbo engine. Oh well... the new Fozzie is a heck of a lot better than the old one. Too bad it's CVT, but then, the automatic on the previous car wasn't great at holding extra power, anyway. Not like the 4AT in the old "station wagon" typie Fozzie, that could hold nearly 400whp.