toyota innova v dsl at vs kia carens lx dsl at

[djsean]

i go for innova because of big space, and comfortable 3rd row.

[Egan101]

+1 for the Innova

[_Qwerty_]

masyadong cramped yung 3rd row nang carens.. masyadong mababa yung upuan halos nakadikit na sa flooring.. kahit bata mahihirapan umupo don..

[djsean]

i need more comments ako din namimili ng innova G Dsl AT vs carens Lx. lagi madami ako sakay. di ko kaya mag starex eh.i want to learn more. mga experts jan. please naman po.

[k0mpressor]

The Innova would be a safer choice, the Carens is more refined and has a lot of features similar to euro standards it would have better fuel consumption for city driving having a smaller engine displacement but a sore loser for highway driving especially if you have 7 passengers. The Carens is a unibody car, so the comfort and driving pleasure will be there, compared to the Innova with wide body but bigger chassis. But if space is a concern then the Toyota is a sure winner.

You might want to consider an Isuzu Crosswind for versatility or a Peugeot 5008 for class.

I beg to disagree on the highlighted part. The carens is lighter, has more horsepower (134hp vs 102hp of the innova) and has loads more of torque (330nm vs 200nm Innova). Both the new 1.7 and older 2.0 Carens CRDI can go beyond 200km/h. I have yet to see an Innova going beyond 180km/h.

To the recent forumer who also has the same dilemma, yes the Innova is still the safer choice. I would peg the carens as a "want" and not like an Innova which falls into the "need" category.

[k0mpressor]

i need more comments ako din namimili ng innova G Dsl AT vs carens Lx. lagi madami ako sakay. di ko kaya mag starex eh.i want to learn more. mga experts jan. please naman po.

Definitely mabibitin ka sa space sa Carens kung lagi kang maraming sakay. Siguro kung wala silang luggage lahat, then ok lang kasi mas comfy talaga ang ride ng Carens as in very car-like. The innova is on a ladder-frame platform similar to pickups pero not as harsh as a hilux or even a Hiace commuter/grandia. Kung lagi ka sigurong puno, medyo macocompensate yung stiffness niya just like the FX and the Revo before na medyo mellowed and quite comfy na ang laro ng suspension pag puno ng sakay.

Another thing to consider pag lagi kang puno is yung layout ng airconditioning. Lamang ang innova with 2 ceiling vents each for the 2nd and third row powered by a separate evaporator sa likod running through ducts. Yung vents ng carens sa middle row lang and placed quite low sa bandang tuhod ng passenger. Those vents are ducted through the same evaporator and blower that cools the front row so medyo mahina ang buga in my experience. Magiging comfy lang siya pag na-contain na ang init sa loob unlike sa innova na pag galing sa bilad, may sense of comfort na agad ang mga nakatapat mismo sa vents pag-on na ng aircon.

[SaiLambo]

I think the innova and the carens aren't in the same segment. Kung gusto mo ng maganda match up then it should be the kia carnvial vs the innova. With that, I'd definitely go for the carnival, more power, more luxury. Ay, di na pala carnival tawag dun, Sedona na pala.

[djsean]

I think the innova and the carens aren't in the same segment. Kung gusto mo ng maganda match up then it should be the kia carnvial vs the innova. With that, I'd definitely go for the carnival, more power, more luxury.

sir sailambo. di pa rin sila match kasi ang carnival eh isang variant na lang tapos ang price nya is nasa 1.5M ang innova po nasa less 1.2M lng po.
actually mas mahal pa din nga ang carens ng 100k.

[k0mpressor]

I think the innova and the carens aren't in the same segment. Kung gusto mo ng maganda match up then it should be the kia carnvial vs the innova. With that, I'd definitely go for the carnival, more power, more luxury. Ay, di na pala carnival tawag dun, Sedona na pala.

Well, the Carnival/Sedona is not even with the same segment as the Innova, not even the Previa. It's more of the same segment with the Toyota Sienna or a close one with the Alphard.

Ang ka-segment ng Innova is still the Adventure, Fuzion and the Crosswind pero the Innova hands-down beats both models by miles and miles in both the engine and ride comfort.

As for the Carens, the closest rivals are the Chevy Orlando, Nissan Grand Livina and Toyota Ipsum (not available locally) and same thing, the Carens beats them miles and miles if in the CRDI variant.

[Challenger75]

Innova G ka na lang boss imbes na V, sayang din yung additional seating capacity.
Sa Carens kasi kahit anong gandang engine ilagay nila, napakahirap ijustify yung pricing. Kotse lang na nilagyan ng 3rd row. Masikip talaga pag puno.

[crosswind]

200km/h.[/B] I have yet to see an Innova going beyond 180km/h.
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Who will want to drive at 200 km/h with their family on board
will you risk the safety of your family just for "your feeling racer heart"?
I agree the carens is more refined and powerful
but the Innova gets my vote why?
Because it's bigger,more spacious,spare parts
ground clearance ( kung ang innova sumasayad na sa mga uneven roads sa Province what
if kaya yung Carens)
If your consideing other choices check out the Isuzu Crosswind if your gonna
use it for provincial and highway driving
kahit saan mo idaan wag lang sa shallow sand or palayan kaya niya
and is more fuel efficient
it won't reach 160km/h in a speed of lightning
but I'm sure you will reach your destination safely
sorry for the long post

[bloowolf]

For me, the Innova, with the refreshed looks, gets my vote as a people mover. Yung air con lang plus points na, at yung better 3rd row leg room. Have you seen the legroom on the Carens?

[GTi]

i need more comments ako din namimili ng innova G Dsl AT vs carens Lx. lagi madami ako sakay. di ko kaya mag starex eh.i want to learn more. mga experts jan. please naman po.

I suggest that instead of the Carens, you consider the SWB Carnival instead. You'd be able to seat 8 full sized adults comfortably. Much more manageable than a Starex. Having a 2.9L engine, FC would definitely be higher than the Innova, though performance would be significantly better as well. Getting the manual variant should bridge the FC gap a bit.

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[merxenra]

For me, the Innova, with the refreshed looks, gets my vote as a people mover. Yung air con lang plus points na, at yung better 3rd row leg room. Have you seen the legroom on the Carens?

The innova is a safe choice, pero di ko gusto yung new grille, mas in line pa yung previous gen na innova sa current lineup nila, haha

[k0mpressor]

Who will want to drive at 200 km/h with their family on board
will you risk the safety of your family just for "your feeling racer heart"?
I agree the carens is more refined and powerful
but the Innova gets my vote why?
Because it's bigger,more spacious,spare parts
ground clearance ( kung ang innova sumasayad na sa mga uneven roads sa Province what
if kaya yung Carens)
If your consideing other choices check out the Isuzu Crosswind if your gonna
use it for provincial and highway driving
kahit saan mo idaan wag lang sa shallow sand or palayan kaya niya
and is more fuel efficient
it won't reach 160km/h in a speed of lightning
but I'm sure you will reach your destination safely
sorry for the long post

And who says that the user will always want to drive at 200km/h even with their families? I'm just debunking a previous post implying that the carens performs poorer than the Innova on the open highway because of the smaller displacement while disregarding how their turbos behave based on paper specs and other users' OWN/ACTUAL experiences (both carens and innova users posted their own figures in a separate top speed thread for curiosity's sake and no one posted doing it fully loaded with their families on board). Despite the differences in performance, I actually recommended the Innova between the two because it will fit the needs of the user.


No need to be exaggeratingly conclusive or judgemental here to the point of branding people you don't know with "feeling racer heart".

[crosswind]

And who says that the user will always want to drive at 200km/h even with their families? I'm just debunking a previous post implying that the carens performs poorer than the Innova on the open highway because of the smaller displacement while disregarding how their turbos behave based on paper specs and other users' OWN/ACTUAL experiences (both carens and innova users posted their own figures in a separate top speed thread for curiosity's sake and no one posted doing it fully loaded with their families on board). Despite the differences in performance, I actually recommended the Innova between the two because it will fit the needs of the user.


No need to be exaggeratingly conclusive or judgemental here to the point of branding people you don't know with "feeling racer heart".

I get your point
thanks for replying
btw I'm also an owner of an Innova
The only downside I could say is the Turbo Lag
on acceleration(really annoying)
I can say the innova's 3rd row is spacious for people with
a height of 5'9
And the Innovas topspeed is 180km/h for the petrol fed one
and 163 km/h on the diesel one
the carens is a nice MPV despite of having low ground clearance
especially the V6 version in Canada

[bloowolf]

I get your point
thanks for replying
btw I'm also an owner of an Innova
The only downside I could say is the Turbo Lag
on acceleration(really annoying)
I can say the innova's 3rd row is spacious for people with
a height of 5'9
And the Innovas topspeed is 180km/h for the petrol fed one
and 163 km/h on the diesel one
the carens is a nice MPV despite of having low ground clearance
especially the V6 version in Canada

I read in TGP that the Carens was meanth as competition to the Avanza, not the Innova. The Innova is way bigger. So, in a way, the obvious choice here is the Innova.

[bogart]

I used to own a 2007 Carens and of course would recommend it versus the innova.

Pros for Carens:
Looks smaller than innova but has better legroom.
Better luggage space when the 2nd & 3rd row seats are fold flat. It easily accommodated 2 balikbayan boxes, 2 big sized maleta & 2 regular maleta.
Most comfortable when the 3rd row seats are fold flat. 5 adults, 5 golf bags, 5 garments bag, 50 kilos of pineapple on a tagaytay to makati trip. No one complained except me as the driver being annoyed by the snoring of my 4 passengers!
Has a more powerful 2.0 crdi (07 model) than the 2.4 did, faster too! I even did'nt notice that I was going 200kmh
FC is 10kpl for city & 12kpl for highway. I even logged a maximum 14kpl, during one of my slex-nlex-sctex traffic free trip.

Cons for Carens:
Lower resale value due to typical "ay kia pala yan" mindset of buyers
Puny luggage room when 3rd row seat is up
Lower ground clearance!
2nd row ac vent is "almost" useless

I would love to keep the Carens but had to sell it after 5 years as part of my company benefit to get a Montero. I was actually contemplating of keeping it and just get a smaller P750k-ish sedan, but my parking could only allow 1 car.

Note: i sometimes drive our company vehicle innova that's why i have an actual experience of the comparison i stated.

Peace...

[bloowolf]

I beg to disagree on the highlighted part. The carens is lighter, has more horsepower (134hp vs 102hp of the innova) and has loads more of torque (330nm vs 200nm Innova). Both the new 1.7 and older 2.0 Carens CRDI can go beyond 200km/h. I have yet to see an Innova going beyond 180km/h.

To the recent forumer who also has the same dilemma, yes the Innova is still the safer choice. I would peg the carens as a "want" and not like an Innova which falls into the "need" category.

I 2nd this. When I was in the market for a new car, I considered the Innova. But on 2nd thought, it did not have that ooomph that I want in a car. Yun bang "smile factor" na I will be proud of the car & will be the first thing I look at in the morning & last I look at before I sleep. The Carens has that.

[bloowolf]

Hi,

Between Innova and Carens, I would suggest Innova for fuel consumption most probably for diesel estimated it's 11-12 km per liter city driving depends on your manner of driving and road condition. Space it's much comfortable compare to Carens. Lower maintenance cost and durability is with Toyota for the longest time. I can help you with the packages and our promos if you don't mind and give some details of Toyota Innova. You can e-mail me at jellalapitanrivera*yahoo.com

Thank you and God Bless.

A biased opinion since you are a Sales Agent. I don't think the Innova can beat the Carens in fuel economy.