toyota hilux 2.5 vnt 2012 or isuzu dmax 4x2 2012

[casper357]

anu po dito sa dalawa na to ang magandang feature, low maintenance, less issue, pangmatagalan po.
meron po kasi kaming navara benta namin kasi of high maintenance. thanks in advance.

[kidgz]

Hilux kana sir

pero kung makakaantay kayo next year

syempre DMAX


o kaya try nyo pasokin ang dalawang SECTION TOYOTA at ISUZU

may mga thread nman yang mga yan

basabasa na lang po kayo sa mga Feedback ng mga Owners of both PICK up

baka makatulong po sa inyong pagpapasya

[attaneil]

Open Suggestion pa ba sir Or naka pili na kau ng Best Pick up nyo sir..

For me sir see my Avatar.. he he he Pogi.. MT12model.

[d_mac]

anu po dito sa dalawa na to ang magandang feature, low maintenance, less issue, pangmatagalan po. meron po kasi kaming navara benta namin kasi of high maintenance. thanks in advance.

High maintenance ba ang Navara "Hi-Power" sir? Gaano ka mahal ang maintenance sir?

Between the two sir at the current times, go for the Hilux 2.5 VNT.

However, if you can wait and hold on more with the Navara inspite of its high maintenance cost, as you said, wait for the Ranger 3.2 TDCi straight-penta cylinder. For me, it's better to have a bigger displacement with less reliance on boosting, unlike what is the prevailing trend now (small engine that relies much on boost from turbocharging) ....It is also better to have that extra-displacement when you need it most than you don't have it at all in time you need it.

The Ranger 3.2 should be an excellent package, it being a straight-5 cylinder (throws in the crank are relatively closely-spaced) therefore it runs smoother than any 4-inline cylinder pickups that you see in Philippines at present, among many other things. It doesn't use any balancing shafts that robs off a certain degree of power from the engine that you would normally need in an inherently imbalanced 4-inline and V6 engines, as the straight-5 engine is already balanced.

As far as i know, Volvo is the other manufacturer that makes straight-pentas these days aside from Ford. The other engine that is even smoother than the penta is the straight-6 cylinder that BMW still makes, or the V12 as it uses the straight-6 crankshaft.

Based on recent reviews of this utility pickup and on 4x4 pickup comparisons in other countries such as Australia (where it was developed by Ford Motors - for the outback settings e.g. hauling, top-towing, flood-wading, rugged handling etc, but giving you the level of comfort both on- and off-road), it's the best pickup available at any price-point.

Cheers and goodluck sa endeavour ninyo sir as a family!

[soyti75]

High maintenance ba ang Navara "Hi-Power" sir? Gaano ka mahal ang maintenance sir?

Between the two sir at the current times, go for the Hilux 2.5 VNT.

However, if you can wait and hold on more with the Navara inspite of its high maintenance cost, as you said, wait for the Ranger 3.2 TDCi straight-penta cylinder. For me, it's better to have a bigger displacement with less reliance on boosting, unlike what is the prevailing trend now (small engine that relies much on boost from turbocharging) ....It is also better to have that extra-displacement when you need it most than you don't have it at all in time you need it.

The Ranger 3.2 should be an excellent package, it being a straight-5 cylinder (throws in the crank are relatively closely-spaced) therefore it runs smoother than any 4-inline cylinder pickups that you see in Philippines at present, among many other things. It doesn't use any balancing shafts that robs off a certain degree of power from the engine that you would normally need in an inherently imbalanced 4-inline and V6 engines, as the straight-5 engine is already balanced.

As far as i know, Volvo is the other manufacturer that makes straight-pentas these days aside from Ford. The other engine that is even smoother than the penta is the straight-6 cylinder that BMW still makes, or the V12 as it uses the straight-6 crankshaft.

Based on recent reviews of this utility pickup and on 4x4 pickup comparisons in other countries such as Australia (where it was developed by Ford Motors - for the outback settings e.g. hauling, top-towing, flood-wading, rugged handling etc, but giving you the level of comfort both on- and off-road), it's the best pickup available at any price-point.

Cheers and goodluck sa endeavour ninyo sir as a family!

This is indeed very informative Mr. D Mac. Can't wait for 2013 new arrivals....it really pays off to wait..twice i got impatient that is why i did not get what i really wanted.

[jut703]

Do note that the 3.2 Ranger will probably be launched some 300,000 pesos more expensive than a Hilux 2.5 G or other equivalent pickups. It will also consume more diesel by virtue of its larger displacement and higher cylinder count.

The downside of having displacement when you need is that during the times that you just need a sedate truck, you still pay for higher fuel bills.

[soyti75]

Do note that the 3.2 Ranger will probably be launched some 300,000 pesos more expensive than a Hilux 2.5 G or other equivalent pickups. It will also consume more diesel by virtue of its larger displacement and higher cylinder count.

The downside of having displacement when you need is that during the times that you just need a sedate truck, you still pay for higher fuel bills.

that is another interesting fact to consider sir.

[d_mac]

Do note that the 3.2 Ranger will probably be launched some 300,000 pesos more expensive than a Hilux 2.5 G or other equivalent pickups. It will also consume more diesel by virtue of its larger displacement and higher cylinder count.

The downside of having displacement when you need is that during the times that you just need a sedate truck, you still pay for higher fuel bills.

Bigger displacement does NOT necessarily mean more fuel consumption compared to smaller dispacement engines chief.

Take note that the straight 4-cylinder engine (unlike the boxer-type 4) requires two balancing shafts that rotate twice the speed of the crankshaft to keep it running balanced.... These two shafts are robbing off power from the engine, and as such it is not as powerful as a straight-5 cylinder with equal displacement. A straight-5 is the best compromise between an inline-4 and the smooth-running straight-6 configuration. A straight 5 also can be designed from modules of the two engines straightaway. It is more fuel efficient, as there's not much friction losses from it compared to the inline-4 and V6. Ford Motors has reasons why it chose to adapt this engine for the Ranger 3.2 TDCi.

Would you think the 2.5-litre Nissan Navara YD25DDTi "Hi-Power" (174 metric-hp, 403 Nm) consumes lesser fuel than the other 3.0-and 3.2-litre CRDi's in the market, or still existing in the roads/offroads today? The Navara is actually the thirtiest and pollutes the most compared to all other pickups (see fuel mileage and carbon footprint). This is the result of a 4x4 diesel utility pickup shootout comparo in Australia in 2009. All pickups were also tested in soft sands, engaged fully in 4x4 mode. Fuel supply in Oz ranges from Euro 4 to 5 compliance.




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Cheers!

[d_mac]

anu po dito sa dalawa na to ang magandang feature, low maintenance, less issue, pangmatagalan po.
meron po kasi kaming navara benta namin kasi of high maintenance. thanks in advance.

Tama yan Casper, sinasabi mo ang TOTOO, while a lot of them conceal it like this guy below beni23 Strada

Mabuhay ka sa Casper!

Cheers!

TOO LONG, DIDN'T READ

To the TS, parehas low maintenance yang dalawang yan. Better test drive it na lang kung ano magugustuhan mo.

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Tama yan beni23, hindi di mo na binasa, walang ganyan ang vaunted Strada mo hehehehe

[jut703]

Bigger displacement does NOT necessarily mean more fuel consumption compared to smaller dispacement engines chief.

Take note that the straight 4-cylinder engine (unlike the boxer-type 4) requires two balancing shafts that rotate twice the speed of the crankshaft to keep it running balanced.... These two shafts are robbing off power from the engine, and as such it is not as powerful as a straight-5 cylinder with equal displacement. A straight-5 is the best compromise between an inline-4 and the smooth-running straight-6 configuration. A straight 5 also can be designed from modules of the two engines straightaway. It is more fuel efficient, as there's not much friction losses from it compared to the inline-4 and V6. Ford Motors has reasons why it chose to adapt this engine for the Ranger 3.2 TDCi.

Would you think the 2.5-litre Nissan Navara YD25DDTi "Hi-Power" (174 metric-hp, 403 Nm) consumes lesser fuel than the other 3.0-and 3.2-litre CRDi's in the market, or still existing in the roads/offroads today? The Navara is actually the thirtiest and pollutes the most compared to all other pickups (see fuel mileage and carbon footprint). This is the result of a 4x4 diesel utility pickup shootout comparo in Australia in 2009. All pickups were also tested in soft sands, engaged fully in 4x4 mode. Fuel supply in Oz ranges from Euro 4 to 5 compliance.




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Cheers!

I never said this was an absolute rule. But yes, in general, higher displacements, more cylinders, and higher outputs often lead to higher fuel consumption.

You can rant all about your theoretical 5-cylinder bullcrap all you want, but I'll bet you my right kidney that the Ranger 3.2 consumes more fuel than a Hilux 2.5G, ceteris paribus.

[d_mac]

This is indeed very informative Mr. D Mac. Can't wait for 2013 new arrivals....it really pays off to wait....

You may inquire about it Sir Soyti75 with Ford dealers (Alabang and Quezon Ave).

May nagsabi sa akin (a TopGear PH member) na ang Ranger 3.2 is discreetly on offer na sa Pinas. Don't know though if it's true. Pegged price at PhP1.5 M, mahal ng kaunti sa Hilux 3.0 D-4D 4x4. Mukhang tinatapan talaga ang solid na Hilux hehe.

Twice i got impatient that is why i did not get what i really wanted.

Also sir, do not settle for the car that you don't like, even when the car that you're waiting for is not yet available for offer. BECAUSE, by the time that it arrives, by then you could be twice as much short on money in buying it ---- e.g. Say you settled at first for another brand at PhP1.30 M, and then the Ranger 3.2 did finally arrive and the price is at PhP1.5 M. Instead of you just paying forward PhP1.50 M straightway fo a utility pickup, by then, you are already spending somewhere in the order of PhP2.80 M, or more if on loan, for just a utility pickup, unless luckily you sold off your current pickup at the same price you got it, but you won't of course hehe....

Cheers!

[beni23]

High maintenance ba ang Navara "Hi-Power" sir? Gaano ka mahal ang maintenance sir?

Between the two sir at the current times, go for the Hilux 2.5 VNT.

However, if you can wait and hold on more with the Navara inspite of its high maintenance cost, as you said, wait for the Ranger 3.2 TDCi straight-penta cylinder. For me, it's better to have a bigger displacement with less reliance on boosting, unlike what is the prevailing trend now (small engine that relies much on boost from turbocharging) ....It is also better to have that extra-displacement when you need it most than you don't have it at all in time you need it.

The Ranger 3.2 should be an excellent package, it being a straight-5 cylinder (throws in the crank are relatively closely-spaced) therefore it runs smoother than any 4-inline cylinder pickups that you see in Philippines at present, among many other things. It doesn't use any balancing shafts that robs off a certain degree of power from the engine that you would normally need in an inherently imbalanced 4-inline and V6 engines, as the straight-5 engine is already balanced.

As far as i know, Volvo is the other manufacturer that makes straight-pentas these days aside from Ford. The other engine that is even smoother than the penta is the straight-6 cylinder that BMW still makes, or the V12 as it uses the straight-6 crankshaft.

Based on recent reviews of this utility pickup and on 4x4 pickup comparisons in other countries such as Australia (where it was developed by Ford Motors - for the outback settings e.g. hauling, top-towing, flood-wading, rugged handling etc, but giving you the level of comfort both on- and off-road), it's the best pickup available at any price-point.

Cheers and goodluck sa endeavour ninyo sir as a family!

TOO LONG, DIDN'T READ

To the TS, parehas low maintenance yang dalawang yan. Better test drive it na lang kung ano magugustuhan mo.


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[Tj_abs]

Sir any information when Ang release Ng all new D-max? I think same platform soya Ng Colorado .

[renzo_d10]

Syempre dmax kasi sabi ni dmac maganda yun eh

[nervenllarena]

strada ayaw mo?

[GTi]

If you really want the 3.2L inline 5 engine, the Mazda BT50 is already available and is also cheaper than the similarly spec'd Colorado. That is if it looks fine with you.

[Syuryuken]

Syempre dmax kasi sabi ni dmac maganda yun eh

ganda ba? yung dmax LS ng bayaw ko di ako makapagsalita sa sobrang tagtag sabi nga ng anak kong 10 years old "daddy that's the worst car i've ever rode"

[soyti75]

ganda ba? yung dmax LS ng bayaw ko di ako makapagsalita sa sobrang tagtag sabi nga ng anak kong 10 years old "daddy that's the worst car i've ever rode"

natawa naman ako sa sinabi mong di ka makapagsalita hehehe..my co worker who is italian also said he endured some beatings at the backseat of the dmax, from makati to pangasinan and swore never again to get in it.

[renzo_d10]

Same, a friend of mine sold his DMAX and replaced it with a Strada.

Best decision he ever made, as per him.

[beni23]

Tama yan Casper, sinasabi mo ang TOTOO, while a lot of them conceal it like this guy below beni23 Strada

Mabuhay ka sa Casper!

Cheers!




Tama yan beni23, hindi di mo na binasa, walang ganyan ang vaunted Strada mo hehehehe

At ako pa ang fanboy ng strada ngayon? Pinopromote ko ba ang strada? Kung makapagsalita ka parang sayo ang isuzu at pinopromote mo ang dmax. Siguro wala kang friends at wala nang gusto makipagusap sayo kaya dito ka na lang lagi sa forum, trying to be the expert of everything.

KOWOWO NOMON YUNG BOTO, WOLONG FRIENDS.

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