Toyota GL Grandia or Kia Grand Carnival (11str)?

**dct** · January 19th, 2017 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Junichiro

Thank you for your imput. Are the current starex reliable sir?

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Wala pang 2 yrs old ang starex namin e. So cannot comment about that. Maybe other tsikoters can comment

Add ko lang. Pag tao lang palagi sasakay mo, starex na. Pero pag madalas ka magkarga bg gamit, hiace na. Dumadapa na suspension ng starex pag nagkarga ng mabigat. Trade off for having a comfy ride, which is opposite sa hiace na mas ok kargahan. Pero medyo matagtag

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**GTi** · January 19th, 2017 09:03 PM

I have a ninong who has a 2008 Starex HVX that survived Ondoy. They're still using it regularly.

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**Junichiro** · January 19th, 2017 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by monty_GTV

get the super grandia, the 2 captain chairs are ideal for senior pax...

Thanks for the imput sir. Medyo over the budget na po kasi pag SG. That's why we considered the Carnival because of similar seating config, automated seats, with lower ride height price than Hiace.

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**EQAddict** · January 19th, 2017 11:09 PM

I have a 11-seater carnival. One of the best purchases i made. Kids love it. Wife loves the 2nd row. I like driving it at times. Modern engine and gearbox. Ammenities, comfort and power everywhere. It doesnt have the outright space of the hi ace though. But for day to day duties done in comfort and relative serenity.....this is the one. And the pricing cant be beat.

Looks really good too. A modern MPV.

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**GTi** · January 19th, 2017 11:25 PM

One of the disadvantages of the Hiace that I've noticed is the high roof which makes it unable to enter many indoor parking facilities. This will be a big headache if you do not have a driver.

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**Junichiro** · January 19th, 2017 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by EQAddict

I have a 11-seater carnival. One of the best purchases i made. Kids love it. Wife loves the 2nd row. I like driving it at times. Modern engine and gearbox. Ammenities, comfort and power everywhere. It doesnt have the outright space of the hi ace though. But for day to day duties done in comfort and relative serenity.....this is the one. And the pricing cant be beat.

Looks really good too. A modern MPV.

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Thanks for the input sir. Yes the exterior styling and all its power amenities makes it feel more upscale than the rest. How are its FC and after sales so far?

Re. The pricing, when I inquired recently, the SRP of the 11str was at Php1.725M before discount, putting it squarely against the Grandia and Starex. Would you still consider it as good value for money?

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**Wh1stl3r2** · January 19th, 2017 11:58 PM

Agree with Eq. It is a much more refined package. Engine, interior appointments, ergonomics, etc. It is really wide though. 105 mm wider than the GL Grandia. Narrow parking slots will be an issue. Ground clearance given its long wheelbase might also be an issue with large speed bumps.

Even if you're not confident about the long term reliability and/or durability of the Kia, just sell it after 5 years. The Hiace will of course command better residuals but you pay more up front for it anyway.

**Junichiro** · January 20th, 2017 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by GTi

One of the disadvantages of the Hiace that I've noticed is the high roof which makes it unable to enter many indoor parking facilities. This will be a big headache if you do not have a driver.

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Is that also true for the GL Grandia as well? I know the LXV (High roof version) has height restriction in entering indoor parking areas.

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**Junichiro** · January 20th, 2017 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by dct

Wala pang 2 yrs old ang starex namin e. So cannot comment about that. Maybe other tsikoters can comment

Add ko lang. Pag tao lang palagi sasakay mo, starex na. Pero pag madalas ka magkarga bg gamit, hiace na. Dumadapa na suspension ng starex pag nagkarga ng mabigat. Trade off for having a comfy ride, which is opposite sa hiace na mas ok kargahan. Pero medyo matagtag

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How is the FC, after-sales of your Starex so far sir? Have you been experiencing trouble with the Hyundai dealership services?

Mostly tao nman ang sasakay sir, with some occational cargo around 70-100kg at the back.

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**GTi** · January 20th, 2017 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Junichiro

Is that also true for the GL Grandia as well? I know the LXV (High roof version) has height restriction in entering indoor parking areas.

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Oo bro. Vertical clearance for the GL is 2105mm as per specs. LXV is only 185mm taller. I distinctly remember Trinoma's parking having a 1.9m vertical clearance. My Japan surplus Granvia has a height of 1965mm. Pilit naipasok though medyo nakakatakot na tingnan dahil parang sasabit na sa mga low hanging pipes and lights. But apparently they flat out do not allow Grandia's to enter the higher levels of the parking facility.

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