Toyota Fortuner 4x2 2.5D4d vs. Hyundai Sta. Fe 4x2 2.2Crdi

**OTEP** · August 26th, 2006 12:06 AM

Our market is a price conscious one. So compromises do have to be made.

The Fortuner's gas engine makes adequate power for local conditions. Unless one was raised on GM and Ford products.

The IMV platform is not that bad. It's a quantum leap over the platforms it replaced and has made it more economical for Toyota to manufacture different vehicles for different market segments.

But then again, the competition is also improving by leaps and bounds.

I guess that's the way evolution goes.

**DocGM** · August 26th, 2006 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by OTEP

Our market is a price conscious one. So compromises do have to be made.

The Fortuner's gas engine makes adequate power for local conditions. Unless one was raised on GM and Ford products.

The IMV platform is not that bad. It's a quantum leap over the platforms it replaced and has made it more economical for Toyota to manufacture different vehicles for different market segments.

But then again, the competition is also improving by leaps and bounds.

I guess that's the way evolution goes.

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Amen to that!

However on the contrary,

I grew up with our Toyotas, Nissan and a Honda
I do maintain 3 Chevys but majority of my vehicles are Japanese and 1 Korean.

**Hero** · August 26th, 2006 12:41 AM

sayang ano? sana one of our local motor journalists can really test the safety of the fortuner (which in our current situation, will and probably never happen)..kahit rollover test man lang sana..ala mythbusters ba? kasi parang wala pa atang talagang nagtest ng capabilities nito?

**OTEP** · August 26th, 2006 12:53 AM

Toyota (like most manufacturers) has in-house safety testing and engineering facility.

Of course lab conditions can sometimes differ from real world conditions. E.g. Nissan Patrols have some of the WORST laboratory crash safety results. But in the real world, it can literally demolish anything in its path and is very capable of protecting its occupants even when parameters exceed those for which it was tested for.

**niky** · August 26th, 2006 12:58 AM

Actually, even compared to locally sold US SUVs like the Expedition, Explorer and Trailblazer, the 3.0 Fortuner and 2.7 Fortuner are quick enough. At least, they get to the common SUV speed limiter really really quickly...

RE: crash test? Where's that thread on the crashed Fortuner?

RE: safety standards: Has the new IMV Hilux passed European standards yet? If so, that's a big plus for the Fortuner.

**number001** · August 26th, 2006 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by niky

Actually, even compared to locally sold US SUVs like the Expedition, Explorer and Trailblazer, the 3.0 Fortuner and 2.7 Fortuner are quick enough. At least, they get to the common SUV speed limiter really really quickly...

I agree, top end speed of the 2.7 vvti is quick enough and 4.0li is not needed afterall the Fortuner is an SUV and not a sports touring car.

Although, I think the 2.7 vvti just needs better torque.

Originally Posted by niky

RE: crash test? Where's that thread on the crashed Fortuner?

Here's the thread fortuner-jeepney accident

The Fortuner in the thread was involved in a side collision only.

Below is a crash test of the Hi-Lux at Toyota's facilities.

Originally Posted by niky

RE: safety standards: Has the new IMV Hilux passed European standards yet? If so, that's a big plus for the Fortuner.

The IMV based Hi-Lux is already available at some developed countries in Europe like in the UK, France, Germany, Spain, Italy, etc..

**niky** · August 26th, 2006 06:03 PM

Oh? So the European Hilux is the same as the IMV based one? That's a definite plus, then.

**oldblue** · August 26th, 2006 06:16 PM

how 'bout being the tallest suv? safe ba ang fortuner sa sobrang taas?

**number001** · August 26th, 2006 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by oldblue

how 'bout being the tallest suv? safe ba ang fortuner sa sobrang taas?

This what motioncars has to say in their Fortuner review.

Originally Posted by motioncars.com

Alarmingly, the vehicle’s height exceeds its width.

**vicoyski** · August 26th, 2006 07:54 PM

Pinalitan pala title nitong thread...

In that case, I would choose the 4x2 Fort over the 4x2 Santa Fe. The price of the 4x2 Santa Fe is just too much to swallow! Mas value for money yung 4x4 V6 na Santa Fe.

Why do some guys complain about the height of the Fort? It is, of course, a large SUV. It is not meant to go fast around corners. It will roll-over for sure. The Santa Fe is a cross-over SUV, so it will have a lesser (but not zero) probability of roll-over.