Toyota Corolla Altis 1.6V or Mazda 3 1.5

[barracudaxxx]

Its the mentality of saying that toyota is the most reliable brand when in fact its one of the auto manufacturers with the largest auto recalls.

[funkeemunkee]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF60...16FA1CE5E244F6

[Walter]

People can bash Toyota all they want but they can't deny that Toyota is still number one in many markets including this country. If a buyer wants to be practical and most are, they would choose a Toyota or Honda. Just look at 2014 U.S. sales charts, Toyota Corolla and Honda Civic are at the top, Mazda 3 is even lower than Hyundai Elantra despite all the rave and glowing reviews, consumers still want to be practical.

FYI, will also choose the Mazda 3 over the Altis. Even considering current vehicle for a Mazda 3 but will wait for specs of Mazda 2.

[barracudaxxx]

I dont think that most number of sales equates to being practical. I just think Toyota & Honda are very good in selling cars, while the marketing people of Mazda sucks. I dont hate toyota, we even have 2 toyotas at home. I just think its wrong for people to buy/choose cars by basing it on the brand alone.

[Egan101]

I dont think that most number of sales equates to being practical. I just think Toyota & Honda are very good in selling cars, while the marketing people of Mazda sucks. I dont hate toyota, we even have 2 toyotas at home. I just think its wrong for people to buy/choose cars by basing it on the brand alone.

It just happens that the common Filipino consumer has brand loyalty and has a hard time getting over previous notions/observations/opinions. Nissan and Mazda is still suffering from its old outlook. Korean brands are still tagged as unreliable. Some still think VW only applies to the venerable Beetle even though it has such a wide range of models (and brands). Even some have no idea that all gasoline sold by the big suppliers are unleaded.

[TopEngine]

Gusto ko rin ang Mazda 3, no doubt. 3 years free PMS nga pero mas mahal naman so bawi lang.

[barracudaxxx]

Gusto ko rin ang Mazda 3, no doubt. 3 years free PMS nga pero mas mahal naman so bawi lang.

Mazda 3 1.5 (945,000) is cheaper than the Toyota Altis 1.6V (999,000).

[red_one]

about Mazda's yojin3..

"Assuming that it will cost P4,000 for one regular maintenance session and that it is done twice a year, that would just equate to P24,000 discount."

"The more costly PMS appointments usually occur after the 3 year period, assuming 20,000 km traveled each year."

[dcph172]

Hahahahaha. Yes the message is the same. Erroneous data is erroneous data, no matter what. Simple math is simple math.


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[franee]

Mazda 3 avg pms cost is around 7k (based on my experience). So around 42k for 3 years.

[Walter]

Mazda 3 avg pms cost is around 7k (based on my experience). So around 42k for 3 years.

One should based the savings on the PMS cost of the car being compared, in this case a Toyota. Toyota PMS cost is usually cheaper.

Hmmm ... ... ... 4,000 x 3 x 3 = 36,000, not 24,000 ...

[jut703]

One should based the savings on the PMS cost of the car being compared, in this case a Toyota. Toyota PMS cost is usually cheaper.

Toyota PMS is every 3 months/5000 km. However, they're not very strict so I used to get away with every 6 months/10000 km as long as I use fully synthetic oil.

Hmmm ... ... ... 4,000 x 3 x 3 = 36,000, not 24,000 ...

4,000 per PMS session x 2 PMS sessions per year (every 6 months) x 3 years = P24,000.

Never heard of a car company requiring maintenance every 4 months (or 3x a year).

[aargh]

Malaking bagay ba ung resale value? Ako kasi I dont consider it in my decision. A lot of the buyers kasi resale value ang iniisip kaya toyota pinipili. Di pa nga binibili ung kotse, pagbenta na ang nasa isip. Nothing wrong with that if u see ur car as just an appliance.

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[Walter]

Malaking bagay ba ung resale value? Ako kasi I dont consider it in my decision. A lot of the buyers kasi resale value ang iniisip kaya toyota pinipili. Di pa nga binibili ung kotse, pagbenta na ang nasa isip. Nothing wrong with that if u see ur car as just an appliance.

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For people who are concerned about budget / finances, resale value is very important to them.

[dct]

For people who are concerned about budget / finances, resale value is very important to them.

it matters pag yung mga owner na nagpapalit talaga mga 5 years. pero yung mga owner na decades ang bilang, i think di na concern yun

[e2romo]

Malaking bagay ba ung resale value? Ako kasi I dont consider it in my decision. A lot of the buyers kasi resale value ang iniisip kaya toyota pinipili. Di pa nga binibili ung kotse, pagbenta na ang nasa isip. Nothing wrong with that if u see ur car as just an appliance.

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Sa corporate world it's common for companies, especially banks, to provide car benefits to their officers. Usually every 5 years entitled ka ulit to a new car. You can then sell your old car for extra cash.

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[jut703]

Malaking bagay ba ung resale value? Ako kasi I dont consider it in my decision. A lot of the buyers kasi resale value ang iniisip kaya toyota pinipili. Di pa nga binibili ung kotse, pagbenta na ang nasa isip. Nothing wrong with that if u see ur car as just an appliance.

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Dito kasi sa tsikot, uso i-downplay ang resale value. But it's just as important as sticker price.

Sticker price + maintenance cost - resale value = total cost of ownership for that car.

In the case of the Mazda 3 1.5V and Altis 1.6V (assuming Mz3 can be sold at 380k after 5 years while Altis at 450k):

Altis: 999k + 40k (5 yrs at 4k per 6 months) - 450k = 589k
Mz3: 945k + 16k (2 yrs at 4k per 6 months) - 380k = 581k

The PMS savings sort of cancels out the resale value advantage. So it's pretty much a tie for the two. Of course, resale depends on how well you negotiate so it varies per person.

[confused shoes]

You buy the car because you like it. You can't equate that with it's resale value. Mataas nga ang resale value nung binili mo, tulo laway ka naman pag nakikita mo yung gusto mo talaga.

The price difference and the resale value for me is no big deal. Important is I am happy with the buy.

[jut703]

You buy the car because you like it. You can't equate that with it's resale value. Mataas nga ang resale value nung binili mo, tulo laway ka naman pag nakikita mo yung gusto mo talaga.

The price difference and the resale value for me is no big deal. Important is I am happy with the buy.

Comparing car A and car B both selling for, say, 1M. But car A will have resale value that is 100k higher than car B.
If you take that into consideration, it's like car A is 1M while car B is 1.1M.

If you still like car B more even if effectively you'll spend more for it, then go. But if you feel that your 100k in 5 years (or whenever you wanna sell it) will be better used for other ventures (investments, education of children, etc), then perhaps it's better to think again.

I don't get why resale price is not important but people care about sticker price.
Is it because sticker price is what you pay now (or in the span of several years if you loan it), vs. resale price which you only realize once you sell it?

Money is money, and even if you factor in depreciation, a huge variance in resale value still results to a huge variance in your net cash flow relating to the vehicle purchase.

I would understand it more if someone who doesn't care about resale value also doesn't care about sticker price, but most people here are so particular about the latter.

[confused shoes]

^ Exactly.
But between the two, I will get the Mazda. Why? Maiba naman.