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    Bro, sirs, car owners/enthusiast and da likes. As my name implies, I'm honestly on a tight budget. but taking all into consideration, I can sustain and afford one of the above mention autos.

    just go ahead and correct if I am wrong

    obvious overall bet would be the Vios?
    cheapest I presume is G4?
    how bout best in terms of FC?

    naka dial up lang internet connection ko, tipid mode kc. hehehehehehe.

    thanks in advance.

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    if you are on a budget, i suggest you consider a used car instead of a new car.
    the cheapest in your list is the g4. but in case you need to sell it, the vios will probably command a higher resale value because of its popularity..
    fuel-wise, the g4 seems to be the miser. but it's still a new model, and only time will tell if it really is the fuel miser we believe it to be..

    talking from experience, your projected costs of owning and using a new car are probably less than the actual. there are many hidden costs to car ownership..

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    I'm currently driving a 91 sentra. I'm no longer confident using it with long drives anymore especially if family is riding with me, baka bigla makalas (=
    resale value is not a factor naman po.
    i'll just check on G4s perf after a few months. it would take a few bago lumitaw mga sakit kasi.

    thanks Dok.

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    they're giving up to 40K discount of sorts on the g4 now... freshly inquired from my SA..
    i have yet to inquire from toyota what discounts they are brewing up..
    nissan is also giving 30K discount..

    the price wars are heating up.. i wonder what their christmas promos will be...

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    wow! that's a lot. another edge is safety, rio base alang airbags ata. for the Juans tlga. dok san branch yan? ill try to visit ung branch sa tapat ng heritage by Monday.

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    Walang airbags yung rio 1.2. Yun yung taxi model nila. Its really bare. Pawis windows nga yung likod nun eh. Vios na. Since you can afford it naman. The J isnt as bare as the rio. May airbags at power windows yun. Wala nga lang keyless entry. kung stretch talaga ang vios, mirage hb is the better choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    if you are on a budget, i suggest you consider a used car instead of a new car.
    the cheapest in your list is the g4. but in case you need to sell it, the vios will probably command a higher resale value because of its popularity..
    fuel-wise, the g4 seems to be the miser. but it's still a new model, and only time will tell if it really is the fuel miser we believe it to be..

    talking from experience, your projected costs of owning and using a new car are probably less than the actual. there are many hidden costs to car ownership..
    Between your three choices, the ones that offer the better power to weight ratio would be the G4 1.2 and Vios 1.3J.
    There are times, when smaller is not always better for fuel efficiency, specially if the body of the car is heavy.

    Mirage G4 1.2 MT
    Power: 78PS
    Torque: 100Nm
    Weight: 870kg

    Vios 1.3J MT
    Power: 86PS
    Torque: 122Nm
    Weight: 1025kg (est)

    Rio 1.2 sedan MT
    Power: 87PS
    Torque: 120Nm
    Weight: 1161kg (est)

    The Rio 1.2 sedan is quite heavy for a 1.2 liter car and unlike the other two cars, the Rio 1.2 does not offer modern safety features like airbags.

    The car with less torque and poorer power to weight ratio will most likely be more sensitive to load changes. For example, if you have 4-5 passengers on board (specially if you are going uphill), the drop in performance and fuel efficiency could be greater than that of a car with a better power to weight ratio.
    Last edited by AG4; November 18th, 2013 at 01:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Budget View Post
    naka dial up lang internet connection ko, tipid mode kc. hehehehehehe.
    kapag may incoming call ka, boom dc sa net


    kung pwede i test drive mo din yung 3 cars.

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    Vios sir. Mas mura maintenance.


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    g4 para sakin. ang laki rin ng matitipid mo, halos 100k. 578k (40k discount) vs 630k (don't know how much is the discount though)

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    badtrip nga mga sir, may nag aangat ng landline, hehe.
    never an issue nman sakin if may mkatapat akong taxi na mirror image ng auto ko or lumaki biceps ng mga sakay ko para ibaba windows.
    unit cost, maintenance cost/availability, FC lng tlga major concerns.
    saka preferably wag compact, para kcng mr, bean naiicp ko lgi.
    so far G4 ang promising, kaso bago pa, bka may hidden tokatok tulad ng hyun-die accent o ala expedition FC ng rio HB. hehe.
    Vios J, kaso 100k din almost msave ko.

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    how about the suzuki swift dzire? you might want to check it out too, although i havent read anything about, it but its suzuki so its worth checking out, not to mention its older brother the swift has really good reviews

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    Be careful with SAs promising 40T discount with Mirage G4. AFAIK, the promo period is up to Oct 31 only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Be careful with SAs promising 40T discount with Mirage G4. AFAIK, the promo period is up to Oct 31 only.
    may promo na christmas holidaze. g4 for 20k cash discount + 20k bpi gift card. ewan ko kung kaya pa babaan. my friend bought his montero this month. 70k + ipad mini nakalagay sa promo pero naging 75k pa ang discount nya + ipad mini

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    may promo na christmas holidaze. g4 for 20k cash discount + 20k bpi gift card. ewan ko kung kaya pa babaan. my friend bought his montero this month. 70k + ipad mini nakalagay sa promo pero naging 75k pa ang discount nya + ipad mini
    in house financing po ba?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bokista View Post
    in house financing po ba?

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    cash po sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by AG4 View Post
    Between your three choices, the ones that offer the better power to weight ratio would be the G4 1.2 and Vios 1.3J.
    There are times, when smaller is not always better for fuel efficiency, specially if the body of the car is heavy.

    Mirage G4 1.2 MT
    Power: 78PS
    Torque: 100Nm
    Weight: 870kg

    Vios 1.3J MT
    Power: 86PS
    Torque: 122Nm
    Weight: 1025kg (est)

    Rio 1.2 sedan MT
    Power: 87PS
    Torque: 120Nm
    Weight: 1161kg (est)

    The Rio 1.2 sedan is quite heavy for a 1.2 liter car and unlike the other two cars, the Rio 1.2 does not offer modern safety features like airbags.

    The car with less torque and poorer power to weight ratio will most likely be more sensitive to load changes. For example, if you have 4-5 passengers on board (specially if you are going uphill), the drop in performance and fuel efficiency could be greater than that of a car with a better power to weight ratio.
    this is true

    heres a done computation so itll be easier to see

    G4: 11.1kg/PS, 8.7kg/Nm
    Vios: (its 1075 curb weight) 12.5kg/PS, 8.8kg/Nm
    Rio: 13.3kg/PS, 9.6kg/Nm

    and the Swift Dzire that i mentioned, i just checked it for an additional comparison sake but IMHO i dont like the way it looks, but engine wise., i kinda lean on a DOHC VVT than a 3 cylinder, dont know about the dzire FC though, does anyone know?

    Dzire: 11.1kg/PS, 8.4kg/Nm
    86HP
    114Nm
    960 curb weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by dct View Post
    may promo na christmas holidaze. g4 for 20k cash discount + 20k bpi gift card. ewan ko kung kaya pa babaan. my friend bought his montero this month. 70k + ipad mini nakalagay sa promo pero naging 75k pa ang discount nya + ipad mini
    i wonder.. does this include the lto, tpl & compre? i asked two SA's, and i got 2 different answers...

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    sa tingin ko mas malaki ang body ng kia rio sa mga options kaya siguro medyo mabigat... no offense to G4 owners pero yung design nya parang madaling maging outdated eh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i wonder.. does this include the lto, tpl & compre? i asked two SA's, and i got 2 different answers...
    LTO included. tpl and insurance not included.

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