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November 18th, 2013 09:19 AM #11
Be careful with SAs promising 40T discount with Mirage G4. AFAIK, the promo period is up to Oct 31 only.
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November 18th, 2013 09:32 AM #12
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November 18th, 2013 10:00 AM #13
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November 18th, 2013 10:06 AM #14badtrip nga mga sir, may nag aangat ng landline, hehe.
never an issue nman sakin if may mkatapat akong taxi na mirror image ng auto ko or lumaki biceps ng mga sakay ko para ibaba windows.
unit cost, maintenance cost/availability, FC lng tlga major concerns.
saka preferably wag compact, para kcng mr, bean naiicp ko lgi.
so far G4 ang promising, kaso bago pa, bka may hidden tokatok tulad ng hyun-die accent o ala expedition FC ng rio HB. hehe.
Vios J, kaso 100k din almost msave ko.
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November 18th, 2013 11:53 AM #15how about the suzuki swift dzire? you might want to check it out too, although i havent read anything about, it but its suzuki so its worth checking out, not to mention its older brother the swift has really good reviews
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November 18th, 2013 12:47 PM #16
Between your three choices, the ones that offer the better power to weight ratio would be the G4 1.2 and Vios 1.3J.
There are times, when smaller is not always better for fuel efficiency, specially if the body of the car is heavy.
Mirage G4 1.2 MT
Power: 78PS
Torque: 100Nm
Weight: 870kg
Vios 1.3J MT
Power: 86PS
Torque: 122Nm
Weight: 1025kg (est)
Rio 1.2 sedan MT
Power: 87PS
Torque: 120Nm
Weight: 1161kg (est)
The Rio 1.2 sedan is quite heavy for a 1.2 liter car and unlike the other two cars, the Rio 1.2 does not offer modern safety features like airbags.
The car with less torque and poorer power to weight ratio will most likely be more sensitive to load changes. For example, if you have 4-5 passengers on board (specially if you are going uphill), the drop in performance and fuel efficiency could be greater than that of a car with a better power to weight ratio.Last edited by AG4; November 18th, 2013 at 01:09 PM.
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November 18th, 2013 03:44 PM #18this is true
heres a done computation so itll be easier to see
G4: 11.1kg/PS, 8.7kg/Nm
Vios: (its 1075 curb weight) 12.5kg/PS, 8.8kg/Nm
Rio: 13.3kg/PS, 9.6kg/Nm
and the Swift Dzire that i mentioned, i just checked it for an additional comparison sake but IMHO i dont like the way it looks, but engine wise., i kinda lean on a DOHC VVT than a 3 cylinder, dont know about the dzire FC though, does anyone know?
Dzire: 11.1kg/PS, 8.4kg/Nm
86HP
114Nm
960 curb weight
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November 18th, 2013 04:18 PM #19
1075kg is for the Vios 1.5 S AT (not sold here), 1060kg is for the Vios 1.5G AT.
According to Toyota's Chinese website, the base 1.3 Vios weighs 1025kg, about the same as the Vios 1.5J MT sold in Thailand (where all Vios models have a 1.5).
Did I just miss it or is the full specifications list (section) no longer included in the (new-look) local website of Toyota.Last edited by AG4; November 18th, 2013 at 04:27 PM.
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November 18th, 2013 04:29 PM #20
Having driven all three... the Mirage, is, hands down, the fastest with two on board. With four... well... the Vios will still be much, much heavier... so there's not really much in it, there.
MT to MT, the Mirage G4 is fastest, followed by the Dzire, followed (closely) by the Rio (it's heavy, but the first three gears are very short) followed by the Vios.
On paper power specs are suggestive, but you won't know what a car will really do until you test it.
Ang pagbalik ng comeback...
as an aside, in the olden days, anyone who does not move 'ala luksa during Holy Week, especially...
Traffic!