Mitsubishi Lancer GTa/ Ford Focus S/ Accent Crdi/ honda civic 2.0

[UsernameTaken]

Which do do you think:

1.) is the most reliable
2.) handles better, ride comfort, stability at high speeds.
3.) is the fastest?
4.) looks best?
5.) pinakasulit

Thanks.

[dct]

pinaka sulit i think is the focus. busog na busog sa features. malakas ang engine. look good din

pero lancer GTA ang the best look for me. especially in color blue

ang layo ata ng price ng accent crdi

[UsernameTaken]

Onga eh, the park assist on the other hand is not a positive thing for me kasi baka dagdag lang yun sa maintenance if ever. Ang tingin ko na importante is the hill start assist.

Some more questions, which has better sound system kaya between the S and the Gta? And which is the fastest of all?

What i like about the focus is really its futuristic look while on the lancer is its aggressiveness.

[Mikemike07]

If i had that budget. Focus na ako. Vs the gta masloaded sa features ang focus tsaka its a new design so no need to worry about upcoming models. Most bang for the buck option is the accent crdi. Pero mukha namang di mo kelangan magtipid. Hehehe. Focus or gta na! Yung civic baka dalhin yung refresh dito soon eh. Which is a lot better looking than the outgoing. Magsisisi ka when it does. Pero pinakamasarap ayusan among your choices is the lancer. Pakabitan mo ng evo kits. Hindi na maluluma itsura nyan.

[UsernameTaken]

I dont know if thats just me pero mukha pa ring bagong design yung lancer para sakin. And about the evo kits, i dont have plans on installing one thats why im choosing between the totl's para clean looking. And besides i have a project car naman that i can messed with.

Sa focus kasi i dunno pero sya first choice ko before but now medyo daming considerations including the reliabilities of the techs inside. But a good car overall.

Accent, oonga noh huge price gap pala, it has good engine kasi i think.

[GTi]

I believe most reliable would still be the Civic. All the others have components that can be very expensive headaches upon eventual breakdown. There's the Lancer's CVT, the Focus's boatload of new features and direct injection engine, and the Accent's turbo and CRDi parts. Although these would not be an issue if you take very good care of your car.

I'd get the Focus if i want the car to stand out or the Accent if the brutal acceleration and excellent gas mileage are what i am after.

Ang maganda sa Accent, since malaki ang matitipid mo sa purchase price, you can install additional features or modifications.

[UsernameTaken]

I believe most reliable would still be the Civic. All the others have components that can be very expensive headaches upon eventual breakdown. There's the Lancer's CVT, the Focus's boatload of new features and direct injection engine, and the Accent's turbo and CRDi parts. Although these would not be an issue if you take very good care of your car.

I'd get the Focus if i want the car to stand out or the Accent if the brutal acceleration and excellent gas mileage are what i am after.

Ang maganda sa Accent, since malaki ang matitipid mo sa purchase price, you can install additional features or modifications.

So you're concluding that the accent is the fastest of them all? Eh between the focus and the lancer ano mas mabilis? Ano ba difference ng power ng diesel vs petrol? (acceleration at yung highway speeds)

[Egan101]

If you can put the older Focus 2.0L TDCi (DSG, 2009-2012) in the list, it will be a good balance of fuel efficiency and performance. There are still being sold as new from select Ford dealers. Only the new Focus (2012) is the real new platform among the list. The Lancer EX is nearing 5 years (2008). The Civic FB is about 2 years old but an updated FB is being released worldwide. The new Accent CRDi is just a hatch form of the existing Accent petrol (2011).

[GTi]

So you're concluding that the accent is the fastest of them all? Eh between the focus and the lancer ano mas mabilis? Ano ba difference ng power ng diesel vs petrol? (acceleration at yung highway speeds)

Due to turbocharging and diesel characteristics, the Accent is faster off the line giving strong acceleration. But then it loses steam as the speed goes up so that the top speed is something you expect from a high horse normally aspirated 1.6L gasoline engine.

[UsernameTaken]

Due to turbocharging and diesel characteristics, the Accent is faster off the line giving strong acceleration. But then it loses steam as the speed goes up so that the top speed is something you expect from a high horse normally aspirated 1.6L gasoline engine.

Pardon my ignorance, so ibig sabihin ba nun is mas mabilis sya compared sa mga 2.0 gas sedans? How about to an SiR Stock to stock? Sorry ha, im not a speed freak naman but medyo nasanay lang ako with the speed of SiR and the power of a diesel SUVs so ayoko naman ng medyo manibago ako if ever na i decided to get a lancer or even an accent. Thanks

[GTi]

Pardon my ignorance, so ibig sabihin ba nun is mas mabilis sya compared sa mga 2.0 gas sedans? How about to an SiR Stock to stock? Sorry ha, im not a speed freak naman but medyo nasanay lang ako with the speed of SiR and the power of a diesel SUVs so ayoko naman ng medyo manibago ako if ever na i decided to get a lancer or even an accent. Thanks

If you take a look at the top speed videos of previous gen Accent 1.5CRDi's, you should somehow get an idea, though the new one is more powerful.

The Accent CRDi should be able to do 0-100 in similar, if not slightly better time as compared to the 2.0 gas sedans, due to its excellent low to midrange pull though top speed would be somewhat lower since it "only" has 128hp. Its characteristics would be like the opposite of the performance of an SiR wherein most of its performance can only be accessed at the higher part of the rpm range, but when driven below 4000rpm, it behaves much like any garden variety 1.6L sedan.

[ghosthunter]

Due to turbocharging and diesel characteristics, the Accent is faster off the line giving strong acceleration. But then it loses steam as the speed goes up so that the top speed is something you expect from a high horse normally aspirated 1.6L gasoline engine.

That is exactly what I experience when I test drove the Hyundai Accent CRDi last year. It has initially lot of grunt as it quickly accelerates then suddenly all that power seemingly evaporates into thin air as the speedometer goes up in speed. It does not have the same power characteristics found in the other turbo diesel sedan, the Ford Focus 2.0TDCi. In the Focus, the power arrives in bucket-loads and keeps on going until you reach just short of the rev limiter.

In short, if you are looking for a fast car, the Accent CRDi is not it. In fact, it is frustrating to even attempt to drive this car anywhere near the definition of "fast". It might be a good commuter car, it is just bad at being a fast car.

[ghosthunter]

Pardon my ignorance, so ibig sabihin ba nun is mas mabilis sya compared sa mga 2.0 gas sedans? How about to an SiR Stock to stock? Sorry ha, im not a speed freak naman but medyo nasanay lang ako with the speed of SiR and the power of a diesel SUVs so ayoko naman ng medyo manibago ako if ever na i decided to get a lancer or even an accent. Thanks

Against 2.0L gas sedans? ... I don't have the numbers to back up my claim but the Accent CRDi feels not that fast. Overall, it feels somewhat in the realm of a 1.6L gas compact sedan in straight-line performance.

We will hopefully have the data in a few weeks time.

[UsernameTaken]

That is exactly what I experience when I test drove the Hyundai Accent CRDi last year. It has initially lot of grunt as it quickly accelerates then suddenly all that power seemingly evaporates into thin air as the speedometer goes up in speed. It does not have the same power characteristics found in the other turbo diesel sedan, the Ford Focus 2.0TDCi. In the Focus, the power arrives in bucket-loads and keeps on going until you reach just short of the rev limiter.

In short, if you are looking for a fast car, the Accent CRDi is not it. In fact, it is frustrating to even attempt to drive this car anywhere near the definition of "fast". It might be a good commuter car, it is just bad at being a fast car.

I also experience that with my diesel suv, i can feel its power from 0-120kph but then it somewhat loses its power when you reached the highrange rev. Wherein in my SiR i really have to gun it to be able to produce more power due to its highrange power distribution but once it gets there, it really moves.

[UsernameTaken]

Against 2.0L gas sedans? ... I don't have the numbers to back up my claim but the Accent CRDi feels not that fast. Overall, it feels somewhat in the realm of a 1.6L gas compact sedan in straight-line performance.

We will hopefully have the data in a few weeks time.

Now i am enlightened, kasi they said before that the accent 1.5crdi is indeed a fast car so i guess i expected so much from the new model since they said that its even faster i just dont know what to car they compared it.

[GTi]

The Accent CRDi is definitely fast, if compared to 1.6L sedans. But the 2.0's is perhaps asking a bit too much. However if its a manual Accent CRDi with a chip...

[ghosthunter]

I also experience that with my diesel suv, i can feel its power from 0-120kph but then it somewhat loses its power when you reached the highrange rev. Wherein in my SiR i really have to gun it to be able to produce more power due to its highrange power distribution but once it gets there, it really moves.

That is the problem with the B16 motor where the power is produced at the last 2000rpm of the rev range. Compared to Nissan's superb SR20DE motor, power comes up quickly until you are in the midrange of the RPM and goes all the way to redline. Too bad we didn't get the Sentra with SR20 motors locally but there are a lot of engine swapped Sentras with SR20 motors around.

[ghosthunter]

The Accent CRDi is definitely fast, if compared to 1.6L sedans. But the 2.0's is perhaps asking a bit too much. However if its a manual Accent CRDi with a chip...

I doubt if a chipped Accent CRDi would gain that much more performance over stock.

[GTi]

A chip should give the Accent CRDi a , say, 10-20whp boost right? Technically shouldn't that bring it to 2.0L territory already?

[ghosthunter]

A chip should give the Accent CRDi a , say, 10-20whp boost right? Technically shouldn't that bring it to 2.0L territory already?

Yes, if you are just measuring HP numbers. As we know, the problem with the Accent CRDi is not the HP numbers but in how the power is delivered. It comes in a big bump at the beginning and disappears soon after. I am just assuming the issue would be turbo size related more than anything else with the motor itself. If I am correct, then a chip upgrade will not change the power delivery characteristics, even if it bumps up the hp output.