Subaru: Legacy or Forester?

[reuben]

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[billyjames]

if we're lucky, late 2010 daw. now, if I can only save 100k a month... lol!

I am not so sure on this diesel thing. I mean, engine needs more time to warm up, mas mahina ang hatak, more vibrations, etc. If my budget is limited siguro then maybe OK. But for a luxury brand like subaru I just don't see the wisdom of diesel.

Even mercedes diesel, from what I've heard, is mabagal.

Not to argue but to solicit opinions and views.

Regards

[tidus1203]

Diesel mabagal, mahina ang hatak??? Obviously di pa kayo nakasubok ng CRDi diesel...

[hajabah]

I am not so sure on this diesel thing. I mean, engine needs more time to warm up, mas mahina ang hatak, more vibrations, etc. If my budget is limited siguro then maybe OK. But for a luxury brand like subaru I just don't see the wisdom of diesel.

Even mercedes diesel, from what I've heard, is mabagal.

Not to argue but to solicit opinions and views.

Regards

depends on which Mercedes diesel you are talking about. Kung MB100D diesel, mahina talaga. Since this is under Subaru, fyi, yung Legacy/Forester/Impreza na 2.0L engine has more power AND torque than the Mercedes engine of the van. Hindi pa CRDi/common rail/TDCi/TDi, whatever you call it, yung makina ng lumang MB van.

YUng mga bagong common rail bihira lang makakita kang mababa sa 300NM of torque. Forte ng diesel ang torque, not power.

Just FYI.

and tidus1203, I've ridden in the Hyundai CRDi's. Lakas ng hatak pare.

[hajabah]

I am not so sure on this diesel thing. I mean, engine needs more time to warm up, mas mahina ang hatak, more vibrations, etc. If my budget is limited siguro then maybe OK. But for a luxury brand like subaru I just don't see the wisdom of diesel.

Even mercedes diesel, from what I've heard, is mabagal.

Not to argue but to solicit opinions and views.

Regards

depends on which Mercedes diesel you are talking about. Kung MB100D diesel, mahina talaga. Since this is under Subaru, fyi, yung Legacy/Forester/Impreza na 2.0L engine has more power AND torque than the Mercedes engine of the van. Hindi pa CRDi/common rail/TDCi/TDi, whatever you call it, yung makina ng lumang MB van.

YUng mga bagong common rail bihira lang makakita kang mababa sa 300NM of torque. Forte ng diesel ang torque, not power.

Just FYI.

and tidus1203, I've ridden in the Hyundai CRDi's. Lakas ng hatak pare.

[hajabah]

oops sorry double post.

[pup2]

I'm going to go kind of against the grain on this. Bahain 'kamo sa inyo at lubak lubak, ergo Forester would probably be better than Legacy because of the long-travel suspension.

I wouldn't suggest waiting for the boxer diesel kasi wala pa sa australia eh sila pinangakuan eh tayo hindi. So dumating man yun dito, wala talagang makapagsabi kung kelan. Puwede din kasi may issues sila sa maduming diesel natin eh.

So kung gusto niyo MEDYO tipid sa gas, just go for the 2.0X. You can always add mods if you feel it's lacking in power or excessive in consumption. A K&N filter, I heard can be quite helpful regarding this. Plus, if worse comes to worst and gas prices really climb again, baka puwede ka mag LPG dahil hindi ka naka turbo.

Mas formal ang dating ng Legacy though and AFAIK, they even offer incentives for those so you might be able to get a great deal. Which you can then use to pay for higher gas prices. Either way, panalo.

[Burai]

naaalala ko tuloy si korina sanchez sa rated K dati nung sinubukan nila yung mercedes.. ang tulin pati tunog at hatak ang ganda and for sure it was a diesel one. about luxury cars yung topic noon and it was a year ago na rin for sure.
back to the topic
it sure is a worth to wait pero can you really wait? 2010 is too long for me tapos di pa masabi exactly when. kung maghihintay kayo meaning magttyaga kayo sa m3 niyo muna eh habang nagttyaga eh ilang beses kaya masisira suspension niya? that's also equals to gastos. (di naman sa minamadali ko po kayo) kung kukuha naman din kayo ng forester gas now, it's somehow near(or even better) sa FC ng m3 niyo naman. dillemma ba to ng pagbili ng car?
wish i could be just like you guys na hindi rin makatulog kakaisip ng bibilhin hahaha!

[hajabah]

I'm going to go kind of against the grain on this. Bahain 'kamo sa inyo at lubak lubak, ergo Forester would probably be better than Legacy because of the long-travel suspension.

I wouldn't suggest waiting for the boxer diesel kasi wala pa sa australia eh sila pinangakuan eh tayo hindi. So dumating man yun dito, wala talagang makapagsabi kung kelan. Puwede din kasi may issues sila sa maduming diesel natin eh.

So kung gusto niyo MEDYO tipid sa gas, just go for the 2.0X. You can always add mods if you feel it's lacking in power or excessive in consumption. A K&N filter, I heard can be quite helpful regarding this. Plus, if worse comes to worst and gas prices really climb again, baka puwede ka mag LPG dahil hindi ka naka turbo.

Mas formal ang dating ng Legacy though and AFAIK, they even offer incentives for those so you might be able to get a great deal. Which you can then use to pay for higher gas prices. Either way, panalo.

not sure about the incentives bro. our family got the third to the last unit ng station wagon, pagkatapos nun ubos na.

I'm not so sure about the sedan though. There can't be any incentives kung ubos na

same dilemma for us, but we went for the Legacy wagon.

[pup2]

naaalala ko tuloy si korina sanchez sa rated K dati nung sinubukan nila yung mercedes.. ang tulin pati tunog at hatak ang ganda and for sure it was a diesel one. about luxury cars yung topic noon and it was a year ago na rin for sure.
back to the topic
it sure is a worth to wait pero can you really wait? 2010 is too long for me tapos di pa masabi exactly when. kung maghihintay kayo meaning magttyaga kayo sa m3 niyo muna eh habang nagttyaga eh ilang beses kaya masisira suspension niya? that's also equals to gastos. (di naman sa minamadali ko po kayo) kung kukuha naman din kayo ng forester gas now, it's somehow near(or even better) sa FC ng m3 niyo naman. dillemma ba to ng pagbili ng car?
wish i could be just like you guys na hindi rin makatulog kakaisip ng bibilhin hahaha!

Bad yan burai. Sasakit ulo mo niyan.

[jm.chan]

I am not so sure on this diesel thing. I mean, engine needs more time to warm up, mas mahina ang hatak, more vibrations, etc. If my budget is limited siguro then maybe OK. But for a luxury brand like subaru I just don't see the wisdom of diesel.

Even mercedes diesel, from what I've heard, is mabagal.

Not to argue but to solicit opinions and views.

Regards

hmmmmm how about the audi a4 3.0 TDI Quattro?? hmmmmm... also diesel cars tend to be more expensive than gas enginged cars

[NSL]

TS - nakakuha na po ba kayo ng subaru.. i mean ng forester? musta naman po performance?

plus 1 here planning to buy forester this year.. I'm thinking if i'll get X variate baka kasi bitin, may available after marketparts to gain HP?

musta gas comsp.. how many KM/L fopr city & long driving? ilang grace period bago dumating ang order?

Thanks

[pup2]

TS - nakakuha na po ba kayo ng subaru.. i mean ng forester? musta naman po performance?

plus 1 here planning to buy forester this year.. I'm thinking if i'll get X variate baka kasi bitin, may available after marketparts to gain HP?

musta gas comsp.. how many KM/L fopr city & long driving? ilang grace period bago dumating ang order?

Thanks

If you can afford it (as well as the gas), get the XT since even with bolt-on mods, hindi pa din mahahabol ng X ang XT. Pero I feel acceptable na ang X kung may bolt-on mods and thus may be the more value-for-money choice. AFAIK, the engine is only very slightly different from the 07-08 model so there should be bolt-ons available from orange, speedlab, etc. Kung wala man, hindi din magtatagal yun for sure.

My FXT consumes 7.5 km/lit Mixed hiway & city. I think pure city figures are about 6.5-7 km/lit with the X probably closer to 7.