Subaru forester vs rav4 2016

[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

posting this for my officemate who is still confuse on what vehicle to get between the 2
I honestly have limited knowledge on SUV/crossover feature that's why we really need the inputs here.
Criteria:
-Budget would be around 1.8m (not cash basis)
-28 yrs old guy newly married (no dependents)
-power for provincial road(monthly zambales trip), low end torque for city driving
-fuel consumption
-of course looks
-reliability
-aftermarket maintenace as well

You may throw additional inputs on other vehicle he can get though.

[jut703]

The facelifted RAV4 is only 1.26M. Much cheaper than a Forester. It's got the same features as the 1.4M RAV4 that was originally launched here. The 2.5 engine is more powerful compared to other 2.0 CUVs, but it's very unwilling to be revved - more for cruising than outright acceleration.

The Forester is more expensive but definitely the better car overall. Even the base 2.0i is better than the RAV4. I think you can get one for 1.3M now since they offer a 100k discount for it. 2.0 paired with the CVT is merely adequate, but your friend shouldn't mind unless he really wants a fast car (in which case he should get a Forester XT). Drawbacks of the Forester are expensive maintenance and poor parts availability outside casa.

If he's willing to consider something else, I'd also suggest the Mazda CX5. Best interior, best handling, and great value for money at 1.5M considering its features and free maintenance for 3 years. 2.0 Skyactiv engine is also the most efficient among all CUVs.


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[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

The facelifted RAV4 is only 1.26M. Much cheaper than a Forester. It's got the same features as the 1.4M RAV4 that was originally launched here. The 2.5 engine is more powerful compared to other 2.0 CUVs, but it's very unwilling to be revved - more for cruising than outright acceleration.

The Forester is more expensive but definitely the better car overall. Even the base 2.0i is better than the RAV4. I think you can get one for 1.3M now since they offer a 100k discount for it. 2.0 paired with the CVT is merely adequate, but your friend shouldn't mind unless he really wants a fast car (in which case he should get a Forester XT). Drawbacks of the Forester are expensive maintenance and poor parts availability outside casa.

If he's willing to consider something else, I'd also suggest the Mazda CX5. Best interior, best handling, and great value for money at 1.5M considering its features and free maintenance for 3 years. 2.0 Skyactiv engine is also the most efficient among all CUVs.


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I'll throw CX5 in his list then, forgot to add that he also prioritize a SUV/CUV which at least replicate a car like handling, coming from a civic 2.0 fd which easily cruise the sharp corners on Olongapo.

[jut703]

I'll throw CX5 in his list then, forgot to add that he also prioritize a SUV/CUV which at least replicate a car like handling, coming from a civic 2.0 fd which easily cruise the sharp corners on Olongapo.

The CX5 is easily the most car-like of them all.


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[dreamur]

When I was still searching for a CUV, I trimmed down my choices to 3 - CRV, CX5 and Forester. Among the 3, CX5 is the most appealing because of the Kodo concept and 3yr free PMS. Eventually I decided for the Forester after comparing the features of the 3 cars at the same price range. For a P1.5M level, the forester has the AWD, panoramic sunroof, roof rails, keyless entry, 2-tone 18inch wheels, leather seats, remote hatch door and side curtain airbags. Still I admire the beauty of the CX5 and would have bought it if I were 10 years younger.

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[AltisAndMZ3FAN]

When I was still searching for a CUV, I trimmed down my choices to 3 - CRV, CX5 and Forester. Among the 3, CX5 is the most appealing because of the Kodo concept and 3yr free PMS. Eventually I decided for the Forester after comparing the features of the 3 cars at the same price range. For a P1.5M level, the forester has the AWD, panoramic sunroof, roof rails, keyless entry, 2-tone 18inch wheels, leather seats, remote hatch door and side curtain airbags. Still I admire the beauty of the CX5 and would have bought it if I were 10 years younger.

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Hi dreamur, can you give the fc of forrester for heavy traffic? thanks in advance

[dreamur]

I havent driven it long enough to get a good reading but at 500km to the odo, and daily drive from C5 Taguig to BGC and Makati, Im getting a 5kpl.

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[ronw123w124]

Also in the market for a new car for my wife in a few months time, were eyeing the Rav 4 also, pero inaantay din namin lumabas yung Fortuner and maybe the Honda BRV if ever it comes out.

[archangel 1979]

How about hrv and asx? Not interested?


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[unmarked]

Not sure if lahat ng ito e different engine config ang inilabas sa US, pero karamihan ng compact cuv battle/review tests sa youtube, CR-V amg lumalabas na winner. Apart from space and flexibility ng interior ng cr-v (class leading), lahat ng areas e hindi sya winner, however, consistent and mataas ang score nya sa lahat ng categories so lumalabas overall highest pa din. You might want to consider cr-v sa mga choices.

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[MR_BIG18]

I havent driven it long enough to get a good reading but at 500km to the odo, and daily drive from C5 Taguig to BGC and Makati, Im getting a 5kpl.

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Weird, im doing 7.75-9kpl on our xt

[jut703]

I havent driven it long enough to get a good reading but at 500km to the odo, and daily drive from C5 Taguig to BGC and Makati, Im getting a 5kpl.

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Weird, im doing 7.75-9kpl on our xt

Different traffic conditions. [emoji4]

Dreamur's area in Taguig is highly congested during rush hour and his trips are rather short. If I remember correctly Mr. Big, you live in the south where I'm sure traffic isn't as bad as Makati/BGC rush hour. Perhaps that 9 km/L even includes a bit of SLEX driving?


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[dreamur]

Different traffic conditions. [emoji4]

Dreamur's area in Taguig is highly congested during rush hour and his trips are rather short. If I remember correctly Mr. Big, you live in the south where I'm sure traffic isn't as bad as Makati/BGC rush hour. Perhaps that 9 km/L even includes a bit of SLEX driving?


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True. C5 to BGC which normally takes me 10 minutes to drive will now take me at least 30 mins. Mostly idling or running at 20kph.

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[dreamur]

I just want to share the PMS cost for the 1st month tune up. It cost me P3.5K with a synthetic oil and new oil filter.

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[MR_BIG18]

Different traffic conditions. [emoji4]

Dreamur's area in Taguig is highly congested during rush hour and his trips are rather short. If I remember correctly Mr. Big, you live in the south where I'm sure traffic isn't as bad as Makati/BGC rush hour. Perhaps that 9 km/L even includes a bit of SLEX driving?


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Yes south, i live in better living where traffic is at par or worst than BGC, the 1km-1.5km stretch of dona soledad (russia-SM) takes an hour, what i did to check my consumption was did a full tank, set the trip meter to 0, made the usual errands (school, banks, etc) went to alabang and back, end of the day fill her up again, youll see from the pump how many liters youve consumed and from the trip meter how many kms youve traveled. Lets say 40kms/5L or 8km/1L, youll get a more accurate idea of your consumption, imho better than subaru's mpg gauge which is parang medyo sablay.

[dreamur]

Yup, im using the data displayed on the center console. I think it is not reliable so I will try the old school approach.

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[jut703]

Definitely, full tank method gets more accurate results. I disagree though that Better Living traffic is worse than C5-BGC. I measure all my cars' consumption using the full tank method, and if it's purely C5-BGC, I get 6-7 km/L with my Altis 1.6.

I'm willing to wager my car that it's not thirstier than a Forester XT. [emoji12]


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[MR_BIG18]

Definitely, full tank method gets more accurate results. I disagree though that Better Living traffic is worse than C5-BGC. I measure all my cars' consumption using the full tank method, and if it's purely C5-BGC, I get 6-7 km/L with my Altis 1.6.

I'm willing to wager my car that it's not thirstier than a Forester XT. [emoji12]


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Im willing to wager breakfast about the BGC vs the better living traffic, i kid you not when i say an hour just for a km. btw my results were mixed including slex drive to alabang.

[c_cube]

live in the area of better living, everyday i passed Dona Soledad twice a day, 730-8 in the morning ang 630-7 in the evening. in my experience, BGC taguig area is hell a lot crazy than better living area.

BTT:
i'll choose the forester if i don't mind spending more on PMS, sabagay if i can buy a 1.5M car, PMS shouldn't be a problem haha!

[jut703]

Im willing to wager breakfast about the BGC vs the better living traffic, i kid you not when i say an hour just for a km. btw my results were mixed including slex drive to alabang.

That was my point in my first post, that 8-9 km/L is already mixed driving with SLEX. I'm sure that if you measured full tank to full tank with just Better Living traffic you'd be hovering at around 5 km/L too.

Anyway, best way to compare traffic is through the average speed reading based on the MID. BGC-only traffic is about 6-10 kph. It frees up a bit when I get home in Pasig to about 12 kph.


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