Sonata Vs. Vectra [and then some]

**woulfe27** · May 24th, 2006 09:50 PM

Accord na lang kesa Vectra.

OT, but does anybody remember the Sonata perfume?

A buddy of mine once told a girl "bango mo a. amoy Sonata."

The girl said "talaga?"

And he said "Oo. Amoy Sonata ka. Sonog Na ***."

Syempre busted sya

**OTEP** · May 25th, 2006 12:09 AM

Medyo mahal talaga OEM parts ng Opel and replacement parts are not that easy to find unless you go as-per-sample sa Banawe or you shop online from other countries.

In my senior year in college, I used an Opel Tigra brochure as a cover for my Histology Lab manual. Histo lab is a 6 hour subject if I'm not mistaken. So my seatmate has nothing else interesting to do except look at the Tigra brochure. Before the schoolyear ended, he was driving one.

Ngayon kapag nagkikita kami, gusto na ko isumpa. Kasalanan ko daw at napabili siya ng Tigra. hehehe. Nasira alternator and some other things. Worst part is he lost control and slammed SIDEWAYS into a wall. Guess what, the airbags deployed! The vehicle was not really that damaged but refitting the airbags (both deployed even though he was alone at the time) will be very expensive. So he just had the dash and steering wheel repaired.

Sorry sa OT.

P.S. ayaw mo ba talaga yung Esteem? hehehe. Spacious yun. Meron sa Tsikot car finder ads pero medyo mataas pa. Yung nasa Congressional hindi ko pa nakikilatis masyado.

**Jun aka Pekto** · May 25th, 2006 12:51 AM

OT.......
I use to hate em. But, we're delighted with our 2006 Sonata V6. It's almost a year old and so far, not a thing has gone wrong with it except the lower gas mileage from speeding all the time...... It's literally worlds apart from the older Sonatas.

But between an older Sonata and a Vectra........ I'd probably look around for some more alternatives.

**Reich** · May 25th, 2006 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by OTEP

Medyo mahal talaga OEM parts ng Opel and replacement parts are not that easy to find unless you go as-per-sample sa Banawe or you shop online from other countries.

In my senior year in college, I used an Opel Tigra brochure as a cover for my Histology Lab manual. Histo lab is a 6 hour subject if I'm not mistaken. So my seatmate has nothing else interesting to do except look at the Tigra brochure. Before the schoolyear ended, he was driving one.

Ngayon kapag nagkikita kami, gusto na ko isumpa. Kasalanan ko daw at napabili siya ng Tigra. hehehe. Nasira alternator and some other things. Worst part is he lost control and slammed SIDEWAYS into a wall. Guess what, the airbags deployed! The vehicle was not really that damaged but refitting the airbags (both deployed even though he was alone at the time) will be very expensive. So he just had the dash and steering wheel repaired.

Sorry sa OT.

P.S. ayaw mo ba talaga yung Esteem? hehehe. Spacious yun. Meron sa Tsikot car finder ads pero medyo mataas pa. Yung nasa Congressional hindi ko pa nakikilatis masyado.

hehe... sir ndi ba mababa rin resale ng esteem? saka ndi ako familiar sa performance, parts, etc. nya

**Reich** · May 25th, 2006 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto

OT.......
I use to hate em. But, we're delighted with our 2006 Sonata V6. It's almost a year old and so far, not a thing has gone wrong with it except the lower gas mileage from speeding all the time...... It's literally worlds apart from the older Sonatas.

But between an older Sonata and a Vectra........ I'd probably look around for some more alternatives.

what do you suggest sir? kasi sa accord, what i'll get is an older model... sa camry, expensive. sa cefiro, no comment

**orly_andico** · May 25th, 2006 08:46 AM

walang panalo at the 250k price range. in other words, there's nothing better than your city. :P

maybe a corona exsior, 1996-ish. at least mas reliable than an esteem. but the esteem is really cheap. may sukli pa. just don't count on ANY resale value (i-kilo nalang after you're through with it). medyo may kamahalan din parts ng esteem and hirap hanapin.

**Reich** · May 25th, 2006 08:55 AM

ok... could you help me list my advantages and disadvantages in swapping my '99 city with the '00 sonata, save for better space and more fuel expenses?

**orly_andico** · May 25th, 2006 09:59 AM

err... malaki na yung mileage nung sonata eh. right off the bat makakagastos ka ng 30k at least (baka more..) para sa preventive maintenance (suspension is probably laspag na; you need to replace the timing belt and water pump; clutch is probably slipping na rin).

unless napalitan na yang mga yan. or pagawa mo kay cruven/zee yung shocks na siguradong laspag na; at least 3000-5000 lang magagastos rather than 15000.

i don't believe na matipid yan. the sonata '00 has an old sirius engine (based on a mitsu engine i believe but less efficient). so mga 6-7 km/L lang yan. about HALF of what your city is getting. so figure out na siguro dodoble ang fuel costs per month mo. or at least a 50% increase. factor in mo na rin yun.

parang di ko nasagot yung question ah.. :P

you get more space. that's all. at the expense of less reliability, more gas consumption, and a lot of parts to fix. makaka-jackpot yung ka-swap mo :D

**OTEP** · May 25th, 2006 01:40 PM

Try to research about the Esteem. Same engine as the Vitara (95bhp 1.6 EFI), shares other bits and pieces too. It is a station wagon that looks like a 3/4 scale Volvo V40. Being a wagon, it has cargo room to match most compact SUV's and also give the cabin an air feel while still being small enough to be economical and practical in the urban settings. Think of it as a Honda City wearing a backpack.

GlennSter's store (in Q.C.) stocks replacement Zuk parts (kaya malakas loob ko kumuha ng Zuk). Genuine parts are priced like genuine parts (though some components are cheaper than their Honda/'Yota counterparts). I just opt for replacements most of the time. It was also sold by GM as the Cheyv Cassia so you have another alternative parts source. Olympia in Araneta Ave. sells both OEM and replacement parts. Links in Banawe is another Zuk specialist store.

I don't think you'd have problems with resale value since you are not buying it brand new. If you don't like it, you can sell it again for around the same price you bought it for basta within reasonable time. The most expensive specimen I have seen costs Php258k from an agent in Ortigas. Units being sold by owners command around Php170-210k. Prices are at an all time low already.

There are 4 Esteems on display at www.Autolink.ph

I think there is a thread for the Esteem. Just use the search function. Btw, all Esteems are manufactured in Japan then shipped to the Philippines

This is what the top of the line Esteem looks like. Though most locally sold units were a trim level below, having only monotone paint and wheel covers.