Pinakamatipid na Kotse for City Driving

[renzo_d10]

Maski nga motor hindi kaya yung 112km/L eh, kotse pa kaya.

[butchik]

Interesting discussions. Futek, 112km/L? asan na ang ganyan at pa test drive nga!! hahaha

[GTi]

If you value economy, pinakamaganda talaga ang manual/diesel combination. And then you are fueling up with much cheaper diesel fuel pa, so mas lalong nakakatipid. Kahit na mas mataas pa ang consumption ng diesel vehicle, it makes up with the lower pesos/liter price. So much so that I believe the fuel expenses for an Accent CRDi would not be far off from that of a Suzuki Alto ran in the same traffic conditions with the same driving style.

Based on my experience, I find diesel M/T's far more easier to drive as compared to a gasoline M/T. It would seem that the abundance of low end torque reduces it's tendency to stall, and hanging is a breeze as you do not have to be that careful with the "timpla".

I believe the Crosswind A/T is the most practical choice for you. It may not be very economical, but then it's a diesel so its still not much of a big deal. The part I value most is the high ground clearance, durable underpinnings, low maintenance cost, and bigger passenger capacity. I believe that if you follow the maintenance schedule religiously, the smoke problem wouldn't be an issue to you. Just make sure everything is always clean and if that doesn't work, have it calibrated. Not a big deal really. And then, the Crosswind is the only old school (low maintenance) diesel AUV with an A/T available. However, if you don't mind not having the A/T, the diesel Revo is actually a better choice, as it has a much lesser tendency to smoke, though it is not as economical as the Crosswind (I get around 7-8 city, 10-12 highway).

[niky]

That's about the same as the Crosswind AT. The engine may be efficient, but not so when stuck with the lousy automatic.

[onewaytrip]

wow, alien technology! 112 kilometers per liter, habang nahuhulog sa bangin.

interesting ang eon.

[Harangody]

Naka GT Oil yan. Alien eh.

[dannyboy833]

Interesting discussions. Futek, 112km/L? asan na ang ganyan at pa test drive nga!! hahaha

I'd believe this 112km/L of FC if the car they used was a prius with a modified Hybrid system (to only use electricity even at above 50MPH)...

the 2012 prius current FC (values in US measurement) 4.7 L/100 km; 60 mpg (hindi ko alam conversion ng MPG to km/L)

Try the VIOS 1.5G A/T...economical siya...pero mas eco ang M/T

[mang_jose]

Baka hila hila ng towing truck...

[shadow3616931]

112km/li!!!!! oh common... cut my neck!

[GTi]

I'd believe this 112km/L of FC if the car they used was a prius with a modified Hybrid system (to only use electricity even at above 50MPH)...

the 2012 prius current FC (values in US measurement) 4.7 L/100 km; 60 mpg (hindi ko alam conversion ng MPG to km/L)

Try the VIOS 1.5G A/T...economical siya...pero mas eco ang M/T

Yun 60MPG is equivalent to about 25.5km/L. Pure city driving ba yan? Expect that to drop further in Philippine traffic conditions. Dun sa 112km/L... Baka 112MPG yan? Which might still be very remotely possible (approx 47.6km/L). O baka naman 12km/L yan at napadiin lang dun sa "1" at dumoble? :rofl:

I would suggest against getting extremely fuel efficient but dimunitive micro hatches since the small size might make you very uncomfortable especially if you're rather tall, you'd get bullied in the major roads and highways, and the large potholes and frequent flashfloods common in Metro Manila would be very inconvenient for you and deadly for your car.

[niky]

In everyday traffic in Manila, the 1.8 liter Prius is stuck around 18 km/l. The old 1.5 could do 23 km/l.

But on our eco-run with the 1.8, we got 36 km/l.

[butchik]

If you value economy, pinakamaganda talaga ang manual/diesel combination. And then you are fueling up with much cheaper diesel fuel pa, so mas lalong nakakatipid. Kahit na mas mataas pa ang consumption ng diesel vehicle, it makes up with the lower pesos/liter price. So much so that I believe the fuel expenses for an Accent CRDi would not be far off from that of a Suzuki Alto ran in the same traffic conditions with the same driving style.

Based on my experience, I find diesel M/T's far more easier to drive as compared to a gasoline M/T. It would seem that the abundance of low end torque reduces it's tendency to stall, and hanging is a breeze as you do not have to be that careful with the "timpla".

I believe the Crosswind A/T is the most practical choice for you. It may not be very economical, but then it's a diesel so its still not much of a big deal. The part I value most is the high ground clearance, durable underpinnings, low maintenance cost, and bigger passenger capacity. I believe that if you follow the maintenance schedule religiously, the smoke problem wouldn't be an issue to you. Just make sure everything is always clean and if that doesn't work, have it calibrated. Not a big deal really. And then, the Crosswind is the only old school (low maintenance) diesel AUV with an A/T available. However, if you don't mind not having the A/T, the diesel Revo is actually a better choice, as it has a much lesser tendency to smoke, though it is not as economical as the Crosswind (I get around 7-8 city, 10-12 highway).

Thanks for this info, Sir. Type din ng father ko ang Crosswind. May inaalok sa kaniyang diesel din kaya lang hindi automatic. Manual lahat ang sasakyan namin, until recently we acquired an automatic. nasanay na kaming idrive ang A/T, tsalap tsalap pala. comfort, ayos pag traffic, relax lang. kaya if possible, gusto na lang ng tatay ko automatic daw.hehehe pati ako na rin.LOL

[GTi]

Thanks for this info, Sir. Type din ng father ko ang Crosswind. May inaalok sa kaniyang diesel din kaya lang hindi automatic. Manual lahat ang sasakyan namin, until recently we acquired an automatic. nasanay na kaming idrive ang A/T, tsalap tsalap pala. comfort, ayos pag traffic, relax lang. kaya if possible, gusto na lang ng tatay ko automatic daw.hehehe pati ako na rin.LOL

Haha! Naspoiled pala! Masaya nga magdrive ng A/T. Hindi ka pagod na pagod after a long day of hard driving. Personally, I am OK with manuals since it has somehow become second nature already. Ayoko lang talaga kung minsan ang laki ng difference in terms of performance and fuel consumption especially if the A/T happens to be a lousy unit.

Kunin mo na yung Crosswind A/T. It'll give you many, many years of worry free service. Some Crosswind owner Tsikoteers have already gone waaaay past the 200tkms mark already. I'd suggest you install a K&N filter after you buy one so you'd at least be able to improve your performance and FC by a sizeable bit.

[111prez]

ito ang 112km/l:

[butchik]

ito ang 112km/l:

Hahaha!!! Possible nga.... Dapat yung Hyundai Accent ang ginamit na picture, para mas maganda. swak na swak! LOL LOL

[renzo_d10]

In everyday traffic in Manila, the 1.8 liter Prius is stuck around 18 km/l. The old 1.5 could do 23 km/l.

But on our eco-run with the 1.8, we got 36 km/l.

Sarap naman nito. Nasa BGC na ako, hindi pa ako nakaka-consume ng 1 liter.

[sachiel]

Baka ok rin yun Prius C. Or if you want luxury, yun CT200h pwede rin.

[ghosthunter]

Baka ok rin yun Prius C. Or if you want luxury, yun CT200h pwede rin.

How can you say you have saved on fuel when you have spent the equivalent amount of eight to ten years worth of fuel in the purchase cost of the car? Buying a Toyota Prius C would be like buying TWO Toyota Vios 1.5L or ONE Vios 1.5L and ten years worth of fuel.

Unless you are trying to make an environmental statement, buying a hybrid car is not the solution for high priced fuels (yet).

[niky]

When the Alternative Fuel Vehicles bill passes through the Senate, then it might be worth it... but it will still likely cost 1.2m, around 400k more than a Vios (which is around the same size inside).

[tomboy]

^
How about yung price ng battery pack ng prius at every ilan years pinapalitan?