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    Stucked up po ako between Mazda 2 (sedan) and Suzuki Ciaz GL. Manual Transmission. Medyo napapaisip ako with Suzuki Ciaz. Pareho namng may pros and cons sya. Ngayon iniisip ko e ung mas makakabuti para sa first owner tulad ko.

    I also think regarding the maintenance after 3yrs. Which one is much better?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datuputi.jr View Post
    Stucked up po ako between Mazda 2 (sedan) and Suzuki Ciaz GL. Manual Transmission. Medyo napapaisip ako with Suzuki Ciaz. Pareho namng may pros and cons sya. Ngayon iniisip ko e ung mas makakabuti para sa first owner tulad ko.

    I also think regarding the maintenance after 3yrs. Which one is much better?

    Thanks in advance.
    Mazda 2 performs better. Ciaz looks more sophisticated and has more room. Up to you where your priorities lie. Check out both personally before you make a decision.

    If you plan to have the car casa maintained, you may want to take advantage of Mazda's Yojin 3 free maintenance promo. At least that's 3 years of maintenance cost down.

    If you want absolutely worry-free maintenance and parts availability for the whole life of the car though, better go for the mainstream brands. Honda or Toyota would be my top picks.

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    ^^^ An appliance car like the Honda City or Toyota Vios would be a good option if you want to go with the more popular models.

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    Oh but unlike the Vios, the Honda City is no appliance car... I've driven a base 2015 Honda Jazz CVT (no paddle shifters) and in terms of handling and performance, I am very, very impressed indeed! Hard plastics all around as expected in its class, yes, but all switchgear with consistently solid/quality feel to its operation. Not to mention lots of room.

    Another advantage of the Honda is the 10tkms maintenance intervals.

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    the mazda 2 is the best power/economy/value model on the market.
    that means, it has the best value for money when you take all 3 things into account.

    Cost
    Fuel consumption
    Power at accessible RPM

    And any other car which comes close to the figures of the mazda 2, would be a turbo, whose fuel consumption figures are misleading, due to the gentle acceleration requirements for the standard worldwide fuel consumption figures. If a turbo car is accelerated to the same power as a mazda 2 where it gets its economy figures from, it would be significantly worse on gasoline.

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    ^^^ The Honda 1.5L engine produces more power at 6k rpm than the Mazda 1.5L SkyActiv (120PS vs 108PS) but the Mazda 1.5L SkyActiv produces almost the same amount of torque at a lower rpm. Coupled with a lower curb weight, it makes the Mazda2 much more responsive to drive. You need to rev that small Honda engine to more than 4k rpm to make it feel more engaging.

    If power and torque is a key consideration from a small car, then choose either from a Fiesta Ecoboost and Accent CRDi.

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    At similar price point, Accent CRDi has no airbags and no ABS. If TS is willing to overlook that however, the fuel efficiency in relation to level of performance is simply out of this world...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Mazda 2 performs better. Ciaz looks more sophisticated and has more room. Up to you where your priorities lie. Check out both personally before you make a decision.

    If you plan to have the car casa maintained, you may want to take advantage of Mazda's Yojin 3 free maintenance promo. At least that's 3 years of maintenance cost down.

    If you want absolutely worry-free maintenance and parts availability for the whole life of the car though, better go for the mainstream brands. Honda or Toyota would be my top picks.

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    I do not want Toyota and i can't afford the Honda. Hehe. That's why i came up with Suzuki and Mazda. Mazda 2 is a good choice. But im planning to use the unit for long drive. So i am more concern to my passenger. Both are my priorities. Hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by datuputi.jr View Post
    I do not want Toyota and i can't afford the Honda. Hehe. That's why i came up with Suzuki and Mazda. Mazda 2 is a good choice. But im planning to use the unit for long drive. So i am more concern to my passenger. Both are my priorities. Hehe
    Ah. Not considering slightly used?

    The Mazda is nice, and any decent car will last long if you take good care of it. But visit one in the showroom first to see if it meets your needs.

    If it was me though, I'd rather get a used 2017 City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Mazda 2 performs better. Ciaz looks more sophisticated and has more room. Up to you where your priorities lie. Check out both personally before you make a decision.

    If you plan to have the car casa maintained, you may want to take advantage of Mazda's Yojin 3 free maintenance promo. At least that's 3 years of maintenance cost down.

    If you want absolutely worry-free maintenance and parts availability for the whole life of the car though, better go for the mainstream brands. Honda or Toyota would be my top picks.

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    Hindi na po kasama sa Yojin 3 ang Mazda 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Ah. Not considering slightly used?

    The Mazda is nice, and any decent car will last long if you take good care of it. But visit one in the showroom first to see if it meets your needs.

    If it was me though, I'd rather get a used 2017 City.

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    At first, i want slightly used. But my parents don't want slightly used. They told me that if i will buy a used car, why not buy a brand new car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    If power and torque is a key consideration from a small car, then choose either from a Fiesta Ecoboost and Accent CRDi.
    But see i feel purchase price is also a factor and so is fuel economy.
    Fiesta ecoboost would not be as economical as the mazda 2, unles u drove it around like a nun, in which case the extra money u spent on a turbo model would be a waste. Haha. Plus the mazda has similar performance, and thats pretty good for a naturally aspirated engine. There really is nothing close to the mazda 2.

    As for the accent, yeh maybe, but its a bit of a pig. And uses a lot of fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datuputi.jr View Post
    At first, i want slightly used. But my parents don't want slightly used. They told me that if i will buy a used car, why not buy a brand new car.
    Well, in this country, ur parents are probably right. In any other country, depreciation as the car exits the showroom makes a new car a ridiculous proposition. For some reason in the philippines, a slightly used car is almpst exaxtly the same price as a new one. Perhaps because people have to work so hard for it, they just ask for more when they sell, or pergaps its because in this country, any old beat up jalopy deathtrap wreck is allowed to be registered and drive on the roads, making such vehicles a considerable purchase decision, pushing up the price of other vehicles up the chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by datuputi.jr View Post
    At first, i want slightly used. But my parents don't want slightly used. They told me that if i will buy a used car, why not buy a brand new car.
    I personally find that buying brand new is underrated, especially when compared to slightly used. Say, less than 2 years with mileage less than 20k. Big price difference, but hardly any difference with a brand new unit if you remove the plates. But wait... 2 year old cars still don't have plates. [emoji23]

    This way you get to have more options. Previously unattainable cars can now be considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    I personally find that buying brand new is underrated, especially when compared to slightly used. Say, less than 2 years with mileage less than 20k. Big price difference, but hardly any difference with a brand new unit if you remove the plates. But wait... 2 year old cars still don't have plates. [emoji23]

    This way you get to have more options. Previously unattainable cars can now be considered.

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    GTI, in your experience, how much do u think drops off the price, percentage wise, once the car leaves the showroom here?
    I seem to find only absolutely atrocious deals on second hand cars being advertised here online in Cebu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiliKoAmericano View Post
    GTI, in your experience, how much do u think drops off the price, percentage wise, once the car leaves the showroom here?
    I seem to find only absolutely atrocious deals on second hand cars being advertised here online in Cebu.
    In such a case, expect depreciation to be around 20%.


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    Quote Originally Posted by datuputi.jr View Post
    At first, i want slightly used. But my parents don't want slightly used. They told me that if i will buy a used car, why not buy a brand new car.
    mazda 2 mas maayos

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    Quote Originally Posted by datuputi.jr View Post
    At first, i want slightly used. But my parents don't want slightly used. They told me that if i will buy a used car, why not buy a brand new car.
    well, for one thing, brand new cars are more expensive. but they do tend to be less problematic.
    but if the wherewithal is easily available, then brand new it is!

    errr... isn't the mazda2 a bit cramped inside, compared to the ciaz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    well, for one thing, brand new cars are more expensive. but they do tend to be less problematic.
    but if the wherewithal is easily available, then brand new it is!

    errr... isn't the mazda2 a bit cramped inside, compared to the ciaz?
    The Mazda2 is one of the most cramped internally among the subcompacts. The Ciaz is suprisingly big inside, much like the City and Vios.


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    They say Mazda 2 is great and fun to drive. I've seen Ciaz, I like its exterior design. I have the impression that it is roomy.

    You should try both and see for yourself. You might as well try hitting the second gear at 60 kph to get the feel of how it will perform in case you really need the speed in the shortest time possible.

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