Most economical car for 400k

[Battlestar]

Mukhang pinakasafe na nga na choice ang Vios/City. As for the Hyundai accent, its a good option too. Dagdag lang ng magandang rims, sleeper na ang dating. I assume hindi naman mahirap ang maintenance ng Diesel accent, since ginagawang taxi ito?

Hindi ko na option yung Civic FD. My officemate has one. Halos same kami ng route, but doble kami ng fuel expenses. And yes, driving the adventure is a practice of patience, hehe. Though, in all our years of ownership, wala itong naging problema.

Go ka na sa Vios 09-10' model bro. Look for SE version. This model is already equipped with a TRD rims and lip spoiler. My co-worker just bought a 2nd hand too just last month at the same price.

[silent_hunter]

Vios ka na lang.kahit 2nd hand 1st ge
n (robin) or

[silent_hunter]

Vios ka na lang.kahit 2nd hand na 1st gen(robin) or 2nd gen (batman). Hanap ka na lang well kept. Walang problema sa pyesa baka sa suking tindahan may mabili ka pa hehe

Puede din 2nd hand Hyundai accent crdi super tipid at mabilis! Pero dapat alaga sa turbo ang dating may ari.

[basti08]

I'd go with either Gen2 Vios G or Accent CRDi

things to look out for sa Vios
-AC compressor bearing, akala mo fan belt pa din umiingay pero AC bearing na. tapos papahigpit ka ng papahigpit ng belt kasi umiingay, lalo ma-loose thread bearing bigla na lang bibigay. Happened to some colleagues at VCP.
-squeaking fan belt, parang may sisiw sa engine bay mo. Pero belt dressing could cure this (as I do in my previous Vios) or replace with 'Bando' brand belts for just 850PHP.
-My only major repair of my previous gen is the Aux fan which mysteriously came loose at around 60000kms.
-VVT-i engine prone to engine sludge.

things to look out for sa Accent CRDi
-tensioner, plastic rotating parts where sa serpentine belt passes. the plastic part tends to be 'cooked' in heat
-stab link, tie-rod problems at around 80tkms
-turbo condition
-do not use 'partsmall' brand for brake replacements. Bendix are now available.
-Hyundai-Mobis parts are generally affordable.

Goodluck. YGPM reply also.

[b0y37]

I'd go with either Gen2 Vios G or Accent CRDi

things to look out for sa Vios
-AC compressor bearing, akala mo fan belt pa din umiingay pero AC bearing na. tapos papahigpit ka ng papahigpit ng belt kasi umiingay, lalo ma-loose thread bearing bigla na lang bibigay. Happened to some colleagues at VCP.
-squeaking fan belt, parang may sisiw sa engine bay mo. Pero belt dressing could cure this (as I do in my previous Vios) or replace with 'Bando' brand belts for just 850PHP.
-My only major repair of my previous gen is the Aux fan which mysteriously came loose at around 60000kms.
-VVT-i engine prone to engine sludge.

things to look out for sa Accent CRDi
-tensioner, plastic rotating parts where sa serpentine belt passes. the plastic part tends to be 'cooked' in heat
-stab link, tie-rod problems at around 80tkms
-turbo condition
-do not use 'partsmall' brand for brake replacements. Bendix are now available.
-Hyundai-Mobis parts are generally affordable.

Goodluck. YGPM reply also.

Thanks for the very detailed ownership experience sir basti.

[kimbon]

I'd go with either Gen2 Vios G or Accent CRDi
things to look out for sa Vios
-AC compressor bearing, akala mo fan belt pa din umiingay pero AC bearing na. tapos papahigpit ka ng papahigpit ng belt kasi umiingay, lalo ma-loose thread bearing bigla na lang bibigay. Happened to some colleagues at VCP.
-squeaking fan belt, parang may sisiw sa engine bay mo. Pero belt dressing could cure this (as I do in my previous Vios) or replace with 'Bando' brand belts for just 850PHP.
-My only major repair of my previous gen is the Aux fan which mysteriously came loose at around 60000kms.
-VVT-i engine prone to engine sludge.

yung isang car kong vios na experience ko din ganyan may squeaking sound parang may sisiw nga sa engine bay during under warranty pa * 30k sa odo. Nung napa 30k PMS sinabay ko ng ipana-ayos. sabi ng casa adjustment lang daw sa belt then okay na naman pero until recently * 40k odo na notice ko ulit may squeking sounds about 5 to 10 seconds lalo na pag gamit sa umaga. base sa assessment mo kaya A/C bearing or belt dressing or maybe both? May idea ka ba kung anong size ng bearing at yung bando brand na belt * 850 saan kaya meron nito sa Manila area? Bando brand ba ang okay na quality as I dont mind paying higher price basta tatagal lang ang gamit nito. Finally, ano pala ang pwedeng gawin para minimize lang ang engine sludge? TIA

[basti08]

yung isang car kong vios na experience ko din ganyan may squeaking sound parang may sisiw nga sa engine bay during under warranty pa * 30k sa odo. Nung napa 30k PMS sinabay ko ng ipana-ayos. sabi ng casa adjustment lang daw sa belt then okay na naman pero until recently * 40k odo na notice ko ulit may squeking sounds about 5 to 10 seconds lalo na pag gamit sa umaga. base sa assessment mo kaya A/C bearing or belt dressing or maybe both? May idea ka ba kung anong size ng bearing at yung bando brand na belt * 850 saan kaya meron nito sa Manila area? Bando brand ba ang okay na quality as I dont mind paying higher price basta tatagal lang ang gamit nito. Finally, ano pala ang pwedeng gawin para minimize lang ang engine sludge? TIA

Sa Toyorama ka na lang kumuha ng parts. Sa Banawe. Dun ako kumuha ng parts, kahit mga freelance nila mekaniko kabisado mga oto. Plus good quality engine parts or OEM lang ang carry nila.
Technically dapat sa mga unang experience mo ng squeaking belt sounds, dapat pag hinigpitan mawawala. Pero later on if your belt is still in good condition check on your AC bearing. Yung mga friends ko kasi nagpalit sila ng OEM Sanden compressor. Kasi too late na, bumigay na talaga. Di din kasi maganda higpit ng higpit ng belt. Pag sobrang higpit, ganun mangyayari.

[kimbon]

Sa Toyorama ka na lang kumuha ng parts. Sa Banawe. Dun ako kumuha ng parts, kahit mga freelance nila mekaniko kabisado mga oto. Plus good quality engine parts or OEM lang ang carry nila.
Technically dapat sa mga unang experience mo ng squeaking belt sounds, dapat pag hinigpitan mawawala. Pero later on if your belt is still in good condition check on your AC bearing. Yung mga friends ko kasi nagpalit sila ng OEM Sanden compressor. Kasi too late na, bumigay na talaga. Di din kasi maganda higpit ng higpit ng belt. Pag sobrang higpit, ganun mangyayari.

Okies I'm familiar naman sa Toyota's good quality parts like toyorama, celeste, gant, aerodynamics etc.. I think na bearing siguro ito coz kaka 40K PMS ko lang sa casa last month at ang sabi no wear & tear pa naman daw lahat ng belts. BTW saan pala pwede magpa change ng A/C bearing besides casa for my reference lang sana?

[basti08]

Okies I'm familiar naman sa Toyota's good quality parts like toyorama, celeste, gant, aerodynamics etc.. I think na bearing siguro ito coz kaka 40K PMS ko lang sa casa last month at ang sabi no wear & tear pa naman daw lahat ng belts. BTW saan pala pwede magpa change ng A/C bearing besides casa for my reference lang sana?

Sa Sanden mismo nagpa-gawa friend ko. Pero gusto nya kasi ipagawa sana sa casa kaso sa Sanden din sya ni-refer.

I dunno pero compressor na kasi ang needed palitan sa kanya. 2008 Vios 1.3E kanya. Bumigay at around 60Tkms naman na.

[number001]

Belt dressing does not address the root cause of the problem (ie. problem with bearing, pulley, tensioner, etc..) but rather simply cover it (squeaking noise) up.

Also most new vehicles now have an auto tensioner that prevents misjudgement as in the case of overtensioning the belt. For those without this feature, you will need to consult a shop manual that will show the amount of acceptable deflection or travel (of the belt).