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  1. Join Date
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    #11
    Quote Originally Posted by jcal68 View Post
    No contest po. . .MS hands down. . .
    ditto here. i think they're not on the same plane.

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    #12
    Crdi na ang montero.
    Old school ang crosswind. Reliable naman pareho. Mejo tipid lang siguro sa maintenance ang crosswind. At mejo mausok din kunpara sa ms

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    #13
    meron kami pareho bago pa lang din MS namin pero kung sa labas mo din ipapagawa maintenance hindi din nagkakalayo sa gastos, pero overall performance ibang iba talaga ang MS lalo na sa suspension at power, pero kung pang service lang naman hinding hindi ka ipapahiya ng xwind kahit san nio po dalhin maasahan talaga

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    #14
    Quote Originally Posted by shelu View Post
    XUV AT can easily accomodate 9 people with comfort, 2 front, 3 middle seats and 4 at the back. it is also known for its durable, easy to fix (no computer box, complicated electronics system) and fuel efficient old-school engine, the 4ja1. with proper maintenance, it can serve you for a lifetime. downside is a noisy engine which others view as underpowered at around 87 HP compared to other AUVs in the market today. i may be bias towards isuzu AUVs as i am a consistent crosswind owner. my wife had an innova and an adventure once, but we prefer crosswind because of its reliability and fuel efficiency. i cant say about montero for i dont have one. i drove my cousin's montero, but always worried about that sudden acceleration thing they had been talking about.
    that's not comfortable.

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    #15
    Crosswind fits your needs while Montero fits your needs and wants.

    Montero costs more to maintain e.g. pms, car wash, insurance, tires, parts replacement etc. It is likely to consume more diesel per km. But If the additional expenses is manageable, then I suggest to get what you want, the Montero.

    Btw, don't forget to ask for a huge discount. Happy casa hopping

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    #16
    Quote Originally Posted by AnitoKid View Post
    Friends,

    The family is planning to acquire a new vehicle before the year 2015 ends or in the first quarter of 2016.

    With hope, this would be the first time that me and my family would be buying an automatic (AT).
    Marami na rin kaming napagdaang vehicles, but all have been manual transmission (MT)
    e.g., several four-door sedans, a 2-door car, a Hi-Lux pick up, and an L300 FB.

    We are currently looking at AUVs and SUVs - dito kasi kasya kami sabay-sabay (7 family members in all).
    And amidst all the beautiful vehicles on the market right now,
    we have narrowed down our choices to the 2015 Montero GLX AT and Isuzu Crosswind XUV AT.
    The thought of possibly buying a second-hand version of either one also comes to mind.

    The vehicle would be mainly used sa pagsundo at paghatid ng mga kids to their schools and workplaces,
    i.e., from Sucat to Pasay City and Makati City areas.

    We are hoping for your kind thoughts on the pros and cons (if any) between the two vehicles,
    suggestions, and/or inputs.

    Thank you very much, friends.


    AnitoKid


    Sir AnitoKid,


    Since ang route nyo po is from sucat to pasay/makati, (80% highway driving 20% city driving)

    Montero po ang good choice, since 4D56 engine naman ito, proven at reliable, at fully upgrade dahil ginawang 16V at common rail na rin...

    Smooth ride naman at hindi matagtag, nagiging matagtag lang po once na dumaan sa malalim na lubak..

    yung FC between non-VGT at VGT, hindi naman po nagkakalayo,
    FC efficient pag highway driving at normal speed (13-15KMS/L)

    and the most important safety features na meron sa montero, yung ABS/EBD at airbag,


    ang disadvantage naman po sa montero,

    pag meron kayong passenger na senior citizen/kids, kailangan po alalayan para makasakay at makababa..dahil sa height ng sasakyan

    then sa extreme stop-and-go traffic, lalo sa edsa, 5-6KMS/L ang consumption, (montero namin ay MT 4x4 VGT), dahil sa gear ratio, hanggang 2nd gear lang lagi pag gapang ang traffic, dahil alanganin sya sa 3rd gear, at di kaya sa 4th gear pag under 40KPH speed,
    (dahil masyadong malakas ang makina at torque, the same time, yung gear ratio ay di nagkakalayo sa AUV[Revo, crosswind, adventure] kaya kailangan i-match yung gear sa certain speed at RPM, para di maginig ang makina..

    Since CRDI at drive by wire, medyo complicated, at kailangan maalaga pag dating sa maintenance.

    sa passenger setting naman, kung sagad na 7 person ang sasakay, yun lang yung sa rear area lalo na po kung meron pang dadalhin na gamit, limited na yung space..

    Saka po yung SUA issues na sinasabi, driver error na po ito, nakapag-drive po ako ng AT version ng montero at bagong labas na strada, during test drive event, meron po delay, lalo po kung sanay sa MT, very manageable po na i-handle ang AT version. kung familiar po kayo..



    Kung crosswind naman, ok naman, proven at reliable, nearly indestructible na machine...at gawang pinoy,
    mas malaki yung interior, at mas maraming passenger/cargo load ang mailalagay,
    FC efficient pag extreme stop-and-go traffic (6-8KMS/L)
    di complicated ang maintenance, dahil more on mechanical at hindi drive-by-wire
    saka di mahihirapan makasakay ang senior citizen, or even kids, dahil tama lang yung height ng crosswind.


    ang disadvantage,


    malakas ang FC pag dating sa highway driving, since 8valve, at less HP at torque, nawawala na yung efficiency, lalo pag full load pa,

    outdated na rin dahil majority ng sasakyan ngayon 16V na kahit mababa ang displacement ng engine, para maging FC efficient. + yung basic safety features, (Walang ABS/EBD, at airbag)

    kung pag dating sa flood wading clearance, pareho naman po ito makakalusot sa baha, (not unless kung lagpas tao na talaga)

    kung sandalian lang po na-exposed, ok lang po, pero kung a prolonged period exposure sa baha...

    mandatory unscheduled PMS, ang dapat gawin, for inspection (under-chassis) major cleaning sa brakes/repack ng bearings sa chassis...(kung drive-by-wire, yung mga electrical components sa chassis na kailangan i-check)

    para iwas corrosion at material failure sa certain parts/component, dahil kahit anong brand pa ng sasakyan, once na exposed sa baha...wala pang isang taon po...magkakaroon po talaga ng breakdown related sa under-chassis..

    Since ang plan ng pagkuha nyo po ng sasakyan is late quarter po ng 2015, at early 2016...

    Dami po lalabas na new model units ng different brand, at makakapili po kayo at saved budget to upgrade sa higher model variant...later on


    Kaya meron po kayong time enough to choose and decide kung ano po yung sasakyan na suitable na gamitin...

  7. Join Date
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    #17
    Between the two, Montero hands down. I will only consider the Crosswind if it is the manual, base variant. For a budget of around 1.2M, there are many much, much better choices out there.

    Aside from the base Montero, there's also the MUX. Price is similar to the Crosswind and is obviously much better in pretty much every aspect except maintenance cost.

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    #18
    I was very much surprised by the many and very helpful responses!
    Thank you very much for your kindness in sharing your thoughts, friends.
    I really appreciate the help.


    AnitoKid
    Last edited by AnitoKid; June 28th, 2015 at 01:12 PM. Reason: Double post

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    #19
    Thank you, Humabol Ka.

    AnitoKid


    Quote Originally Posted by HUMABOL KA View Post
    meron kami pareho bago pa lang din MS namin pero kung sa labas mo din ipapagawa maintenance hindi din nagkakalayo sa gastos, pero overall performance ibang iba talaga ang MS lalo na sa suspension at power, pero kung pang service lang naman hinding hindi ka ipapahiya ng xwind kahit san nio po dalhin maasahan talaga
    Last edited by AnitoKid; June 28th, 2015 at 01:29 PM. Reason: Double post

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    #20
    *playplugg:

    Thank you very much for the tips. I appreciate very much the kind help.

    Yun din naisip namin ni Mrs., last quarter of the year or 1st quarter of the new year,
    ay mas maraming variants, deals, possible discounts, and the likes.

    We are really trying our best to thread carefully and realistically with regard to this decision.
    We know din na hindi namin makukuha lahat sa isang vehicle at lahat ng gusto namin,
    but hoping still that we could at least get the most out of our hard-earned money.

    In all honesty, excited kami. This is going to be our first AT / AUV or SUV vehicle.


    AnitoKid


    Quote Originally Posted by playplugg View Post
    Sir AnitoKid,


    Since ang route nyo po is from sucat to pasay/makati, (80% highway driving 20% city driving)

    Montero po ang good choice, since 4D56 engine naman ito, proven at reliable, at fully upgrade dahil ginawang 16V at common rail na rin...

    Smooth ride naman at hindi matagtag, nagiging matagtag lang po once na dumaan sa malalim na lubak..

    yung FC between non-VGT at VGT, hindi naman po nagkakalayo,
    FC efficient pag highway driving at normal speed (13-15KMS/L)

    and the most important safety features na meron sa montero, yung ABS/EBD at airbag,


    ang disadvantage naman po sa montero,

    pag meron kayong passenger na senior citizen/kids, kailangan po alalayan para makasakay at makababa..dahil sa height ng sasakyan

    then sa extreme stop-and-go traffic, lalo sa edsa, 5-6KMS/L ang consumption, (montero namin ay MT 4x4 VGT), dahil sa gear ratio, hanggang 2nd gear lang lagi pag gapang ang traffic, dahil alanganin sya sa 3rd gear, at di kaya sa 4th gear pag under 40KPH speed,
    (dahil masyadong malakas ang makina at torque, the same time, yung gear ratio ay di nagkakalayo sa AUV[Revo, crosswind, adventure] kaya kailangan i-match yung gear sa certain speed at RPM, para di maginig ang makina..

    Since CRDI at drive by wire, medyo complicated, at kailangan maalaga pag dating sa maintenance.

    sa passenger setting naman, kung sagad na 7 person ang sasakay, yun lang yung sa rear area lalo na po kung meron pang dadalhin na gamit, limited na yung space..

    Saka po yung SUA issues na sinasabi, driver error na po ito, nakapag-drive po ako ng AT version ng montero at bagong labas na strada, during test drive event, meron po delay, lalo po kung sanay sa MT, very manageable po na i-handle ang AT version. kung familiar po kayo..



    Kung crosswind naman, ok naman, proven at reliable, nearly indestructible na machine...at gawang pinoy,
    mas malaki yung interior, at mas maraming passenger/cargo load ang mailalagay,
    FC efficient pag extreme stop-and-go traffic (6-8KMS/L)
    di complicated ang maintenance, dahil more on mechanical at hindi drive-by-wire
    saka di mahihirapan makasakay ang senior citizen, or even kids, dahil tama lang yung height ng crosswind.


    ang disadvantage,


    malakas ang FC pag dating sa highway driving, since 8valve, at less HP at torque, nawawala na yung efficiency, lalo pag full load pa,

    outdated na rin dahil majority ng sasakyan ngayon 16V na kahit mababa ang displacement ng engine, para maging FC efficient. + yung basic safety features, (Walang ABS/EBD, at airbag)

    kung pag dating sa flood wading clearance, pareho naman po ito makakalusot sa baha, (not unless kung lagpas tao na talaga)

    kung sandalian lang po na-exposed, ok lang po, pero kung a prolonged period exposure sa baha...

    mandatory unscheduled PMS, ang dapat gawin, for inspection (under-chassis) major cleaning sa brakes/repack ng bearings sa chassis...(kung drive-by-wire, yung mga electrical components sa chassis na kailangan i-check)

    para iwas corrosion at material failure sa certain parts/component, dahil kahit anong brand pa ng sasakyan, once na exposed sa baha...wala pang isang taon po...magkakaroon po talaga ng breakdown related sa under-chassis..

    Since ang plan ng pagkuha nyo po ng sasakyan is late quarter po ng 2015, at early 2016...

    Dami po lalabas na new model units ng different brand, at makakapili po kayo at saved budget to upgrade sa higher model variant...later on


    Kaya meron po kayong time enough to choose and decide kung ano po yung sasakyan na suitable na gamitin...
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    Last edited by AnitoKid; June 28th, 2015 at 01:37 PM. Reason: Double post

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