Best sub 2M toy, brz,ft86,veloster,genesis.

[oliver1013]

Test drove a friend's Veloster last night..ok na ok dami toys. Grey market, yun nga lang, no conduction sticker, hassle daw magpark sa malls tsaka sa mga pulis hassle dahil nasisita mayat maya has to show all papers and explain everything for 4 mos till he gets his plates.

Which made me think, with these four magkaka presyo almost. Pila sa BRZ at FT86 sa dealers, matagal din waiting time sa Veloster tapos grey market. Then there's Genesis rin.

Aside from their specs, prices are di nagkakalayo naman. What would be the most "worth it".

[EQAddict]

Ft86 or brz will keep their value long term ala mini cooper or miata. The genesis coupe pre facelifted is hit hard by depreciation... Just check out sulit.com to see how far the price drops are for two year old specimens.

For fun? I have never been lucky enough to drive one of these things but based on expert opinion (i.e. niky, topgear, etc) i would say the brz/ft 86 twins are the ones to have.


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[oliver1013]

Binibida ng friend ko yung 1.6 turbo ng velo niya, how does this compare to the 200hp NA ng brz and Ft?

[ghosthunter]

Test drove a friend's Veloster last night..ok na ok dami toys. Grey market, yun nga lang, no conduction sticker, hassle daw magpark sa malls tsaka sa mga pulis hassle dahil nasisita mayat maya has to show all papers and explain everything for 4 mos till he gets his plates.

Which made me think, with these four magkaka presyo almost. Pila sa BRZ at FT86 sa dealers, matagal din waiting time sa Veloster tapos grey market. Then there's Genesis rin.

Aside from their specs, prices are di nagkakalayo naman. What would be the most "worth it".

If you want the most fun, the 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8L is one of the choices I would have on my list because of the improved suspension over it's previous year model. The Toyota GT86 / Subaru BRZ might be on the list but not among the top choices. The Mini Roadster Coupe convertible is another one but it's over P2M in price, but its a scream to drive around with the top down.

For those with a more limited budget, a used Ford Focus 2.0TDCi M/T can get you loads of fun on the weekend and still be practical & frugal on fuel for daily driving.

[renzo_d10]

Mazda MX5

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Seriously though, among your choices, 86 or BRZ ako. Pero depende rin kasi anong "trip" mo and your definition of fun. Meron kasi okay lang may lack of power sa straights pero malupit bumira sa corners, meron naman mas gusto hataw lang ng hataw dire diretso.

[Ponkan]

Subaru WRX STi kaso over 2M din ata to

[jut703]

A used Honda S2000. Shouldn't be over 1M so you've got change to spare for maintenance and mods. A hoot to drive in the corners.

Though personally, if not an R32 GT-R, I'd get a GC8 WRX STi Impreza.

[gtvguy]

kung kaya magandang toy car din mustang

[foresterx]

:bwahaha: kung ano ano na kotse sinabi niyo. bugatti na lang kaya okaya ferrari para sigurado ka pa.

[joemarski]

minica ni monica???

[niky]

The 86, I believe, is the best track tool for under 2m. Get the manual transmission! It's easy to drive and it is very well balanced. The stock tires are safe, and give way to understeer at the limit, though if you push it hard, it edges out into oversteer... thankfully at lower cornering speeds than the Genesis Coupe, which makes it easier to catch. I still think the MX-5 is more intuitive to drive, with better steering, but the 86 is a whole lot cheaper. It will likely hold its value well, since Toyota is limiting supply, but I doubt you'll be buying an 86 to sell. Even if you do, you're still going to lose some 500-700k pesos when you sell it in several years, so it's not an investment. So skip on the TRD bodykits and mags, and stereo upgrades... get the basic car and be happy with it.

This car is the car the Miata should have been, if Mazda had made a cheaper hardtop version. Now if only Toyota hooked up with Mazda to tune the steering box, the 86 would be a perfect toy.

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The Genesis 2.0T with the manual is sweet. Big car, great balance, great brakes, lots of power. Good as a cruiser, a drift-toy or a track-car.

The Genesis Coupe rides better on the highway and has a nicer interior than its competitors. All of which cost 3m or more here. Against what's available under 2m here, no contest.

The steering is decent, the suspension is the perfect compromise between supple and stable and the brakes are fantastic.

That said, the Genesis Coupe is a big car. Take it out on track an push hard and it'll feel rewarding. Push too hard and it can bite. That heavy rear end is harder to gather up than the 86's, even with the improved suspension tuning. But if you're looking for a modern Nissan Silvia, the Hyundai is the real deal.

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If you want something to properly kill yourself with, the Genesis Coupe 6MT V6 with Brembos is still under 2m. The V6 is a simply fantastic engine. The 270 hp 2.0 is simply no match for the rev happy nature and aural assault the V6 provides (yeah, yeah... it's not the best sound six out there, but a thrashy six still sounds better than a turbo-four...) But I like balance, and the 2.0T has a better balance. And a simple chip upgrade would give you more power than the V6, too.

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Veloster... with a turbo, it's quick, but if I wanted a turbocharged Elantra, I'd buy a turbocharged Elantra. Really, though... not much reason to buy a Veloster Turbo over a 2.0 Genesis. Safer in the rain, maybe, but the Genesis Coupe has traction control, anyway.

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Left field choice: Subaru Forester 2.0XT. Quicker than the 86 or Veloster, has more headroom than a city bus. The new Forester chassis is nice and tight. Still not as good in the corners as, say, a Mazda CX5, but at least the suspension tuning matches the power output, now. Still a bit too tall to feel comfortable bombing down the highway at over 200 km/h, but you can make a lot of sportscars choke on your exhaust when peeling away from the stoplights.

[SiRbossR]

Ako rin, i'd get an MX-5 if i were to choose. pero among your choices, i'd definitely cross out the Veloster. then i'd just test drive the other 3.

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but for 2M, i'd get a 2nd Hand GVB/GVF STi

[ghosthunter]

Mazda MX5

The Mazda MX5 is simply overpriced and for tall dudes, the car is simply too small. When I drove the MX5, my eyes are right exact on the upper frame of the windshield. I had to skutch down to see out of the windshield.

[ghosthunter]

Ako rin, i'd get an MX-5 if i were to choose. pero among your choices, i'd definitely cross out the Veloster. then i'd just test drive the other 3.

But the MX5 is already at the P2M mark.... and you can get other good cars for less than that.

[ghosthunter]

A used Honda S2000. Shouldn't be over 1M so you've got change to spare for maintenance and mods. A hoot to drive in the corners.

It is more like a pain to drive.... the S2000 suspension is too much track oriented to be anywhere near comfortable to drive daily on the streets of metro manila.

Also, not too many Honda S2000 in the country to choose from.

[renzo_d10]

And S2000 = import. Nowadays, ayoko makita ng pulis driving on a B, R, Y plated car. Mahirap na hehe

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[EQAddict]

Whwy what happens if police see you in a B or Y plated car?


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[renzo_d10]

Whwy what happens if police see you in a B or Y plated car?


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They'll usually stop you then ask for the car's papers to check the legality of the car I suppose.. Import kasi, mainit sa mata talaga yan.

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[jut703]

OT: Na-set na ba yung IRR ng anti-import law na yan? I'm considering buying an import down the road so it's kinda sad if I'd have to cross out that option.

[SiRbossR]

But the MX5 is already at the P2M mark.... and you can get other good cars for less than that.

i figured, afaik it's at 2.2m isn't it?

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the s2000 is a pain in the ass to drive. it really feels cramped inside. had one before, the one with the f22c. it does drive really well but for the usual fun you get from other of the cars mentioned here? nahhhhhh.