Mitsubishi Adventure or Isuzu Crosswind

[GTcervan]

Thanks mga idol for your valuable inputs. Nakwento ko nga kay misis that we will check Innova E diesel Matic and she is very excited since matic. But I am hoping that matuto cya mag manual kc lam ko mas mura ang PMS, price, etc. Any Innova users po dyan na pede mag advise kung pros and cons ng manual vs matic Innova?

Thanks po ulit.

Kung mostly sa city driving lang naman, mas ok ang a/t kaysa m/t. May sports mode na din kung kailangan mo. At sa maintenance, halos parehas lang naman sila. Sa matic, papalitan mo lang ang atf every 40k kms or more pero i'm not sure kung ano ang exact. Sa manual naman, eventually mauupod din yung clutch nun after long time of use so papalitan dyan yung clutch disc, flywheel, etc. pero mas maganda siya sa highway kasi ramdam mo yung power pag nasa right gear at right speed ka.

[jaypee10]

sa tipid at tibay ng makina,napakadali ng maintenace.hindi maselan.sa kargahan man maasahan ..

adventure

tested ko na tibay ng pang ilalim.pasok na pasok sa business mo..

[uchizenmaru]

Crosswind : Maangas tingnan ,durable, mas matipid kasi sa krudo at parts kasi timing gear at kya cons ay maingay talaga ang engine, maintenance is change oil lng. New look. Spacious rin likod if you want to put new ukay2 sacks basta yung side to side third row lng wag lng yung front facing third row pero dont go for sportivo, quite pricey pero aesthetics/design/color lng ang dinagdag at hindi performance based. Go for xt or xuv pero all models have the same performance , pwde ka bumili ng mura at upgrade mo nlng para maging sportivo look, mas makakatipid ka pa .

Adventure kasi walang pinag bago ang mukha ilang years na at mas maliit pero ok rin naman at mas cheaper kay resale value nya super cheap tlga kahit gls supersport pa.

Do not expect lng na mabilis for both because even turbo yung cw, not really much ang kanyang naibibigay kaya dont dare na makipag karera using these units. Takbong pogi lng to.

Innova if you want to have what modern cars can offer kaya mas costly ang maintenance pero mas talagang mas Mabilis with safety features like abs, airbags pero sa look imho pang soccer mom tlga xa. [emoji3]

Verdict : CROSSWIND

Kasi adv or cw lng topic to end with.


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[dr. d]

Crosswind : Maangas tingnan ,durable, mas matipid kasi sa krudo at parts kasi timing gear at kya cons ay maingay talaga ang engine, maintenance is change oil lng. New look. Spacious rin likod if you want to put new ukay2 sacks basta yung side to side third row lng wag lng yung front facing third row pero dont go for sportivo, quite pricey pero aesthetics/design/color lng ang dinagdag at hindi performance based. Go for xt or xuv pero all models have the same performance , pwde ka bumili ng mura at upgrade mo nlng para maging sportivo look, mas makakatipid ka pa .

Adventure kasi walang pinag bago ang mukha ilang years na at mas maliit pero ok rin naman at mas cheaper kay resale value nya super cheap tlga kahit gls supersport pa.

Do not expect lng na mabilis for both because even turbo yung cw, not really much ang kanyang naibibigay kaya dont dare na makipag karera using these units. Takbong pogi lng to.

Innova if you want to have what modern cars can offer kaya mas costly ang maintenance pero mas talagang mas Mabilis with safety features like abs, airbags pero sa look imho pang soccer mom tlga xa. [emoji3]

Verdict : CROSSWIND

Kasi adv or cw lng topic to end with.


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innova?
costly maintenance?
i have two.
and i just do the 5000 km oil and filter change.
their combined odo readings are over 160K km.

soccer mom? only if you limit yourself to it.

heh heh.

[CVT]

innova?
costly maintenance?
i have two.
and i just do the 5000 km oil and filter change.
their combined odo readings are over 160K km.

soccer mom? only if you limit yourself to it.

heh heh.

Doc, IIRC,- one is diesel, the other one is gasoline, right?

In that case, both variants,- so a very good overall assessment of the Innova.

[GTcervan]

Crosswind : Maangas tingnan ,durable, mas matipid kasi sa krudo at parts kasi timing gear at kya cons ay maingay talaga ang engine, maintenance is change oil lng. New look. Spacious rin likod if you want to put new ukay2 sacks basta yung side to side third row lng wag lng yung front facing third row pero dont go for sportivo, quite pricey pero aesthetics/design/color lng ang dinagdag at hindi performance based. Go for xt or xuv pero all models have the same performance , pwde ka bumili ng mura at upgrade mo nlng para maging sportivo look, mas makakatipid ka pa .

Adventure kasi walang pinag bago ang mukha ilang years na at mas maliit pero ok rin naman at mas cheaper kay resale value nya super cheap tlga kahit gls supersport pa.

Do not expect lng na mabilis for both because even turbo yung cw, not really much ang kanyang naibibigay kaya dont dare na makipag karera using these units. Takbong pogi lng to.

Innova if you want to have what modern cars can offer kaya mas costly ang maintenance pero mas talagang mas Mabilis with safety features like abs, airbags pero sa look imho pang soccer mom tlga xa. [emoji3]

Verdict : CROSSWIND

Kasi adv or cw lng topic to end with.


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Too bad the crosswind is a smoke belcher and the same goes for the adventure as well. Both isuzu and mitsubishi should really consider updating their engines if they still want to sell these dinosaurs in the market.

[StockEngine]

Too bad the crosswind is a smoke belcher and the same goes for the adventure as well. Both isuzu and mitsubishi should really consider updating their engines if they still want to sell these dinosaurs in the market.

both isuzu and mitsubishi have no plans to make euro4 compliant crosswinds and adventures..

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[GTcervan]

both isuzu and mitsubishi have no plans to make euro4 compliant crosswinds and adventures..

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Well, that's bad for isuzu because there will only be two models left that aren't classified as trucks in it's lineup, the d-max and mu-x. The good thing is that the latter is selling pretty well for them though. Only mitsubishi is making a move by saying there will be a replacement arriving in a few years. Hoping this is true.

[ice15]

I have different experience with my XTO. I dont experience yung numbness holding the wheel even driving the whole day. What is that opening that you are seeing, I have not notice it. My XTO is 16 years na and still strong. 120 to 130 kph is very easy to attain without problem. Pang day to day use at cheap to maintain. If you are looking for fancy car this is not your car.
I have a front facing 3rd row do di gaanong problema umupo sa likod. Yung 3rd row can hold a lot of baggage since you fold front yung upuan pag hindi mo gagamitin.

Sorry but anong RPM ng XTO mo when speed is 120/130kph?

[jaypee10]

Sorry but anong RPM ng XTO mo when speed is 120/130kph?

sigurado yan hindi bababa sa 3.5 ang rpm niya malamang mag 4 pa
trinay ko ung advie ko 135kph nginig na kaya natakot ako pero may itatapak pa. 3.7 ang rpm

[aioshin]

Me chance kaya na mag sale tong mga to (Adve at CW) ngayong December 2017 kung sakaling totoo na di na ma register mga none euro 4 na di pa nabenta this coming 2018?

[jaypee10]

Me chance kaya na mag sale tong mga to (Adve at CW) ngayong December 2017 kung sakaling totoo na di na ma register mga none euro 4 na di pa nabenta this coming 2018?

years 2005 yata nung narinig kong hindi na marerehistro ung mga motor na 2 stroke,pero hanggang ngayon na irerehistro parin at tumatakbo parin sa kalsada..

diba nga last model na ng adventure ung 2017 ,so kahit na umabot pa ng 2018 yan sa market nila.2017 parin ang model na yan kaya pasok parin sa registration

[ice15]

Me chance kaya na mag sale tong mga to (Adve at CW) ngayong December 2017 kung sakaling totoo na di na ma register mga none euro 4 na di pa nabenta this coming 2018?

Normally naman maganda discount ng cars towards end of the year...

Kasi yung COC nila is current year (2017) tapos ilang weeks na lang, 2018 na.

Pero, based on experience, nauuwi ung heavily discounted units sa mga fleet buyers.

E.G.
May friend dad ko noon (also in the taxi business) and they bought hugely discounted Corolla E100s (10 units), E110 na naka-display sa delerships noon.

My ex colleague din bought a 1st gen Jazz from the bank (brand new), price was too good even if dealerships already had the 2nd gen on display.

[ice15]

years 2005 yata nung narinig kong hindi na marerehistro ung mga motor na 2 stroke,pero hanggang ngayon na irerehistro parin at tumatakbo parin sa kalsada..

I don't think kaya ng government natin ipag bawal and old cars.

So from 2018, only Euro-4 cars ang pwede ibenta, pero older engines will still be on the road.

I wonder how will LTO handle locally assembled jeeps and "change engine" cases...

[dct]

Well, that's bad for isuzu because there will only be two models left that aren't classified as trucks in it's lineup, the d-max and mu-x. The good thing is that the latter is selling pretty well for them though. Only mitsubishi is making a move by saying there will be a replacement arriving in a few years. Hoping this is true.

Kahit naman dmax at mux, euro 2 rin sila e. So basically truck na lang matitira sa line up nila. Although may euro 4 naman sa ibang bansa ng dmax at mux

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[ice15]

Kahit naman dmax at mux, euro 2 rin sila e. So basically truck na lang matitira sa line up nila. Although may euro 4 naman sa ibang bansa ng dmax at mux

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I'm sure Isuzu will update the Mu-X engine to Euro-4

[ice15]

sigurado yan hindi bababa sa 3.5 ang rpm niya malamang mag 4 pa
trinay ko ung advie ko 135kph nginig na kaya natakot ako pero may itatapak pa. 3.7 ang rpm

Well FX days, I tried 120 on a straight line...
100 lang nagawa ko sa Adv, bago pa kasi noon kaya naiilang ako.

Ang sama ng handling sa high speed curves ng Auv...

[12vdc]

Mas maganda handling ng Adventure dahil siguro maganda ang NVH. Sa tulin, lamang ng konti si Xwind pero parehong pugita sa usok tuwing pinipiga ang selinyador. Mahina preno ng Xwind kaya wag nyo patatakbuhin beyond 100 o tututok kung hindi tantyado ang nasa unahan. My vote goes to Xwind for its space and reliability, allergic ako sa maintenance ng 4D56 ih.

[GTcervan]

Kahit naman dmax at mux, euro 2 rin sila e. So basically truck na lang matitira sa line up nila. Although may euro 4 naman sa ibang bansa ng dmax at mux

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Haha kawawa naman ang isuzu philippines sa 2018 kung mawawala lahat ng passenger vehicles sa lineup nila.

Yung crosswind lang ang mawawala sa tatlo kasi isuzu doesn't plan on either updating the engine to euro 4 or replace it with a new model while the other two will be offered next month or next year with either a new smaller engine, the updated current engine or even both of them. In short, they wouldn't be phased out next year. Yung trucks nila, ewan ko lang kung magiging euro 4 din next year.

[dct]

Haha kawawa naman ang isuzu philippines sa 2018 kung mawawala lahat ng passenger vehicles sa lineup nila.

Yung crosswind lang ang mawawala sa tatlo kasi isuzu doesn't plan on either updating the engine to euro 4 or replace it with a new model while the other two will be offered next month or next year with either a new smaller engine, the updated current engine or even both of them. In short, they wouldn't be phased out next year. Yung trucks nila, ewan ko lang kung magiging euro 4 din next year.

Di kasama ang trucks sa euro 4 implementation

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