manual or automatic

[Alpha_One]

City driving: AT, other than that MT.

But, how about the semi-automatic nga naman? Like the latest Civic (don't know which variant) has this shifts on the steering wheel. I have not driven these but if I get the message correct - you can just leave it there if you want the machine to shift it for you (automatic) but you can still control it if you so desire. Mukha naman na na-address na yung needs ng parehong type of driver. Tama ba assumption ko mga kapatid?

Semi-autos aren't exactly the "best of both worlds" either. Mainly for two reasons:

-If you wanted to control the shifting by yourself, what's the purpose of getting an automatic?

-More importantly, the tranny itself often decides that you're hurting it and will override your shifts in "manual" mode. Which defeats the purpose of the "manual" mode.

They aren't perfect.

[Jun aka Pekto]

Me alone, I prefer a M/T. Since I've been married, all our vehicles have been A/T because my wife refuses to drive stick even though she can in an emergency.

It's interesting to note that I've changed the clutch of my M/T 1991 Plymouth Laser 4 times plus other transmission work. Granted, I've abused the crap out of it. But, I haven't exactly been gentle with our A/T 1995 Ford Contour either. It's transmission is still completely original. The only maintenance work needed so far was changing the ATF regularly.

I'd much prefer if there was a M/T 2006 Sonata V6. But, the Shiftronic mode suits me just fine.

[pup2]

Is it just me or does the manual provide a more precise level of control? Lalo na kung manual na gas vs auto na diesel? As in if you just need to move 3 inches, di ba parang mas madali? -- Lalo na kung manipis ang shoes mo like mocs or something.

[ryan]

Kung dito sa Pilipinas gagamitin especially in Metro Manila, definitely a matic.

[jonski]

matic. nakakapagod kasi pag traffic pero kaya ko pa drive ng manual.


Tips naman sa mga manual drivers gagawin..halimbawa uphill yung daan tapos medyo traffic...ano ginagawa nyo pag nakahinto sa uphill sasakyan? brake ba tinatapakan nyo or clutch? tips naman.

[arvic]

matic. nakakapagod kasi pag traffic pero kaya ko pa drive ng manual.


Tips naman sa mga manual drivers gagawin..halimbawa uphill yung daan tapos medyo traffic...ano ginagawa nyo pag nakahinto sa uphill sasakyan? brake ba tinatapakan nyo or clutch? tips naman.

pag alam kung sandali lang at aandar na yung line, half clutch then gas yung gitna ba para hindi umandar at hindi rin umatras...

[alwayz_yummy]

merge na kaya etong thread na ito

http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35699

dito...

1/2 clutching, will lead to preamture wear ng disc and release bearing, not to mention fuel consumption din...better kung full press mo. than 1/2

[jonski]

pag alam kung sandali lang at aandar na yung line, half clutch then gas yung gitna ba para hindi umandar at hindi rin umatras...

pero halimbawa kapag mga 1minute na nakahinto? last time kasi umusok na yung clutch nung clutch gamit ko.

[pup2]

matic. nakakapagod kasi pag traffic pero kaya ko pa drive ng manual.


Tips naman sa mga manual drivers gagawin..halimbawa uphill yung daan tapos medyo traffic...ano ginagawa nyo pag nakahinto sa uphill sasakyan? brake ba tinatapakan nyo or clutch? tips naman.

Clutch? Kung matarik ang uphill eh di aatras yun? Kung gas/clutch mix naman ang problem nun pag natagalan ka, baka masunog clutch mo. Tsaka mas nakakapagod sa paa yun.

My suggestion, kung mukhang sandali lang (1 minute), brake na lang. Otherwise, I use the handbrake. Tapos pag aandar na, I mix the gas and clutch then let down the handbrake pag naramdaman ko na ang slight forward movement from the gas/clutch mix.

I thought this is what everyone does since it has worked so well for me for decades!

[Emong3]

since you said preference mo is HOnda, if you plan to buy a civic 2000 medel and below, I suggest you go for a manual tranny. Older generation honda matic tranny is not yet as perfect as 2001 model up civic. 2k below civic a/t has the common shift shock, poor acceleration, bad fuel economy and still uses a 4 speed gear box.

But if you plant to buy a 2001-2005 civic, the matic tranny is good! My cousin that drive an altis 1.6g a/t says mabilis talaga honda. Ramdam nya kasi pag ginagamit nya yung civic VTiS ang bilis daw. And yung common shift shock wala na. shifts very smoothly. fuel economy is not as bad as the oplder civic since the tranny is now electronically controled. No more throttle-to-tranny cables. The ECU now anticipates the driver's driving style and adjusts depending on the driver's habits.

[sandamakmak]

since you said preference mo is HOnda, if you plan to buy a civic 2000 medel and below, I suggest you go for a manual tranny. Older generation honda matic tranny is not yet as perfect as 2001 model up civic. 2k below civic a/t has the common shift shock, poor acceleration, bad fuel economy and still uses a 4 speed gear box.

But if you plant to buy a 2001-2005 civic, the matic tranny is good! My cousin that drive an altis 1.6g a/t says mabilis talaga honda. Ramdam nya kasi pag ginagamit nya yung civic VTiS ang bilis daw. And yung common shift shock wala na. shifts very smoothly. fuel economy is not as bad as the oplder civic since the tranny is now electronically controled. No more throttle-to-tranny cables. The ECU now anticipates the driver's driving style and adjusts depending on the driver's habits.

wow Emong3 great info. my cousin is also on the process of buying a used HONDA as second car and I think your info. is very useful 'coz when he asked me of my preference for city driving, told him I'll go for matic considering na sasabak sya sa kalye during rush hour.

[oliver1013]

Nung bata bata pa tayo mas gusto ko ng manual para feel, pero ngayon kailangan mo lang pumunta from point A to Point B mas gusto ko na matic. Pero may mga times na nakakamiss din mag manual, pag trip maghataw hataw ng konti.

[daycode88]

mas madali ang maintenance ng manual.

sa matic naman be sure to check weekly yung ATF mo. sabi nung mekaniko eh dapat 10 minutes mong pa-andarin ang sasakyan from cold bago mo check ang level ng ATF, be sure your looking at the HOT level. :kick:

[rion]

mas madali ang maintenance ng manual.

sa matic naman be sure to check weekly yung ATF mo. sabi nung mekaniko eh dapat 10 minutes mong pa-andarin ang sasakyan from cold bago mo check ang level ng ATF, be sure your looking at the HOT level. :kick:

most likely, ATF level should be checked during engine running...

[mbenz204]

I drive both.
Kung feeling comfy ka, autobox, kung mataas ang adrenalin mo, go with a stick.

[docchris]

matic na...wala naman ata lugar sa pilipinas na ok magshift ng shift. khit sa nlex nga sarap sana kso may speed limit at radar...was caught twice already at nasuspend ako for the 2nd violation.pang prodessional racers na lang ata dpat mga manual e...sa pilipinas i dont think its still advisable with the traffic and all...hehe

[funkngruvn]

kapag matic depende sa model ng car na bibilhin.. may mga matic na magastos sa gas gaya ng mga "normal" versions ng a/t (old a/t cars), pero kung bibili k ng may cvt (lancer & jazz) medyo mas matipid kc mas efficient ung transmision kc cones and belts na ginagamit dito, hindi gears.

from experience mas maganda ang m/t kung hatak ang usapan, kapg akyat k ng kennon road mas magamit mo ung power ng makina kapag manual gamit mo dahil ikaw mismo hahnap ng gear na stable sa makina, pero kapag a/t gamit mo computer ang hahanap ng gear na suitable sa rpm at speed mo kaya minsan nabibitin ka sa takbo ng sasakyan.
para sa kin maganda ang a/t kapag long trip kasi hindi ka masyado mapapgod magdrive, gas at preno ka lang.

bihira din ang a/t sa mga trak at bus kc mas matibay at mas maganda hatak kapag m/t, at mas madali at mas mura iservice ang mga m/t kesa sa a/t.

[swordsman]

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[pyeh!]

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sir swordman, nakabili nko! manual ang kinuha ko...pero ngaun, hinahanap ko ng swap/trade with automatic tranny. nagaral kasi mag drive ung wife ko. gusto nya gamitin ung car but, nahihirapan sya sa manual.

[pup2]

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sir swordman, nakabili nko! manual ang kinuha ko...pero ngaun, hinahanap ko ng swap/trade with automatic tranny. nagaral kasi mag drive ung wife ko. gusto nya gamitin ung car but, nahihirapan sya sa manual.

It was my theory na a big part of ATs popularity is not really just convenience but the unwillingness of a large part of new drivers to learn MT. Pati mga utol ko ganito eh.

Hehe. Dapat ata sa mga new AT drivers paakyatin ng Baguio behind a slow moving long truck para matutunan din nila mag MT. hehe.