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January 8th, 2008 04:51 PM #1
In terms of engine, mostly yes but when it comes to outer features imo it’s not.
but in the case of the civic SIR, naka sisi talaga.
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January 8th, 2008 05:27 PM #2
I agree sir. Parang minor facelifts lang kasi ang nangyayari. Case in point, crosswinds and adventure.
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January 8th, 2008 05:46 PM #4hmmm well supposedly a new model is designed to iron out the kinks or strengthen the weaknesses of its predecessor. so in theory, it should always be better. but i guess it's not always the case especially in the looks department since it's highly subjective. maybe car makers will also try to shave off some amenities or lessen the quality of non-essential parts to save on costs. but personally, from an engineering/technical standpoint, the newer model is better than its predecessor, but it will not necessarily sell more or be as successful. and of course, there's the emotional attachment to older models.
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January 8th, 2008 05:49 PM #5
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January 8th, 2008 05:51 PM #6Diba they had the FD Civic 2.0 MT for a while? Except that was a total flop. Demand was far lower than expected (nakinig kasi sila HCPI sa forums, which is like 1% of the total car market) and they had to sell the cars at substantial discounts just to get them moving, and then took the car off market completely.
Last edited by Dr.Kamiya; January 8th, 2008 at 05:53 PM.
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January 8th, 2008 09:21 PM #7
The 2.0 Civic with a M/T is far from being an SiR replacement.
This is the current equivalent of the old 160PS 1.6 liter Civic SiR(sold in some markets as the Si)
The new Civic Si with a 200PS(197hp) 2.0 liter engine.
As far as I know, currently its only sold in North America and Brazil.
(PS: There are some Si coupes sold here by Standout Motors for P1.9M+)
New cars are better than there predecessors in some areas.
Sometimes they adjust to what the market wants...
less sporty, but more practical... or less sporty but more luxurious etc.Last edited by AG4; January 8th, 2008 at 09:27 PM.
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January 9th, 2008 02:15 PM #9
It depends which car we're talking about. A long time ago, I distinctly remember going to Toyota Paseo de Roxas and my parents being majorly underwhelmed with the AE111 Corolla when we sought to replace our AE101. Disappointingly it was a LOT smaller than the outgoing car.
and of course, there's the emotional attachment to older models.
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January 9th, 2008 02:47 PM #10
It's mostly emotional.
Newer cars are almost always stiffer than the previous model and are usually bigger. In other words, handling is more secure and seating is more comfortable. It's only in the application of the ancillaries that the new models suffer... cheaper plastics to save money... softer suspension to woo the grandma market... enginesthat are too small for the new weight... etcetera...
But given the same power new models are often much faster around the race track than the outgoing model, and are often easier to drive.
Doesn't mean I'm going to trade in the Lynx, yet...
Ang pagbalik ng comeback...
silver is my favorite color. i can get away with not cleaning the car for long-ish periods of time....
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