Is the latest model car always better than predecessor?

[XTO]

In terms of engine, mostly yes but when it comes to outer features imo it’s not.

but in the case of the civic SIR, naka sisi talaga.

[mazingerZ]

I agree sir. Parang minor facelifts lang kasi ang nangyayari. Case in point, crosswinds and adventure.

[AG4]

In terms of engine, mostly yes but when it comes to outer features imo it’s not.

but in the case of the civic SIR, naka sisi talaga.

What about the SiR... because it had no follow up model in the RP?

[coiter]

hmmm well supposedly a new model is designed to iron out the kinks or strengthen the weaknesses of its predecessor. so in theory, it should always be better. but i guess it's not always the case especially in the looks department since it's highly subjective. maybe car makers will also try to shave off some amenities or lessen the quality of non-essential parts to save on costs. but personally, from an engineering/technical standpoint, the newer model is better than its predecessor, but it will not necessarily sell more or be as successful. and of course, there's the emotional attachment to older models.

[mazdamazda]

but in the case of the civic SIR, naka sisi talaga.

Ummmm... the SIR has no "direct" predecessor since Honda Phil. didn't introduce here the Si versions of the subsequent Civics.

What about the SiR... because it had no follow up model in the RP?

+1 on this.

[Dr.Kamiya]

What about the SiR... because it had no follow up model in the RP?

Diba they had the FD Civic 2.0 MT for a while? Except that was a total flop. Demand was far lower than expected (nakinig kasi sila HCPI sa forums, which is like 1% of the total car market) and they had to sell the cars at substantial discounts just to get them moving, and then took the car off market completely.

[AG4]

Diba they had the FD Civic 2.0 MT for a while? Except that was a total flop.

The 2.0 Civic with a M/T is far from being an SiR replacement.

This is the current equivalent of the old 160PS 1.6 liter Civic SiR(sold in some markets as the Si)
The new Civic Si with a 200PS(197hp) 2.0 liter engine.
As far as I know, currently its only sold in North America and Brazil.

(PS: There are some Si coupes sold here by Standout Motors for P1.9M+)

New cars are better than there predecessors in some areas.
Sometimes they adjust to what the market wants...
less sporty, but more practical... or less sporty but more luxurious etc.

[XTO]

What about the SiR... because it had no follow up model in the RP?

yes kaka hinayang talaga and all because of it's b-16 DOHC engine compared to newer 1.8 S and V that comes only in SOHC. on the other hand the 2.0 S-L DOHC is sold only with an a/t

[Type 100]

It depends which car we're talking about. A long time ago, I distinctly remember going to Toyota Paseo de Roxas and my parents being majorly underwhelmed with the AE111 Corolla when we sought to replace our AE101. Disappointingly it was a LOT smaller than the outgoing car.

and of course, there's the emotional attachment to older models.

+1 here.

[niky]

It's mostly emotional.

Newer cars are almost always stiffer than the previous model and are usually bigger. In other words, handling is more secure and seating is more comfortable. It's only in the application of the ancillaries that the new models suffer... cheaper plastics to save money... softer suspension to woo the grandma market... enginesthat are too small for the new weight... etcetera...

But given the same power new models are often much faster around the race track than the outgoing model, and are often easier to drive.

Doesn't mean I'm going to trade in the Lynx, yet...

[shadow]

supposedly but not necessarily......gulo!!! ewan? hehehehe

depende siguro as for me basta luma na ang kotse kahit maganda pa siya nun time niya, eh luma pa rin and need to buy a new one hence new model

[pup2]

I think they TRY to improve all the time but they don't always succeed -- particularly since I feel they also always try to lower cost/improve efficiency at the same time. I was sooo disappointed with my Lancer Smiley after my box-type.

[suv]

Sa looks department hindi.

Example: 6th generation vs 7th generation Civic

[coiter]

depende siguro as for me basta luma na ang kotse kahit maganda pa siya nun time niya, eh luma pa rin and need to buy a new one hence new model

hehehe same here. i'm a sucker for newer models and technology. pero di ko lang maafford ang brand new hehe. pero parang logic din kasi e. why make a new model thats inferior to the previous one? e di iretain mo na lang yung luma. at syempre, kung meron ka nung lumang model, di mo sasabihing mas maganda yung latest para hindi sumama loob mo hahaha

[theveed]

Looks are subjective, highly subjective so the argument is pretty much invalid.

As for the Civic 2.0, Honda clearly stated it during their launch that it is NOT a sport variant of the ES.

[pitbullz]

between the bigbody corolla and the lovelife body...hmmm...parang mas madami ata may gusto nun big body

[XTO]

how about the all new vios compared to the previous one? my officemate has the 2005 m/t G and she's so happy that she followed our advice. mas mura na daw mas maganda pa i-porma.

[Hayward]

This might be true in most cases but what about Lemon Cars?
Well I guess these are more of an exception rather than the general rule.