[Merged] Honda CITY vs Toyota VIOS

**ghosthunter** · July 24th, 2003 11:54 PM

Its like comparing apples & oranges in terms of performance potential. I assume you are planning to get the hi-end of either car?

The Honda City only comes in 1.3 liter engine. With only around 85HP, there is NO performance potential except if you are planning an engine swap. It would quickly sprint from 0-90kph quickly but trying to get beyond 100kph will have to be measured by a calendar, not a stopwatch.

Handling is kinda weird. The steering wheel gives absolutely no feedback from the front wheels. Its like playing one of those driving games at your local video arcade and even those would give better feedback than the Honda City. The rear end would slide when pushed but control is difficult. The easiest way to slide and control it is to use the hand brake technique, weight shift technique makes this car skittish. Stock tires are made by Michelin and gives enough grip. Not much road noise either.

The Honda City comes with ABS and airbags, fully fold down seats and good all around view. But none of these would contribute for a good car for "performance" upgrades. Maybe if the Honda FIT would be released locally with a better engine.

The toyota VIOS has the 1.5 M/T & A/T versions. The 1.5 liter engine has around 107HP and a very light body (lighter than the City by around 50Kg). In terms of looks, the recent Fort VIOS test drive had a VIOS on display with body kit & mags. Looks good. Engine potential, you might have a problem upgrading the exhaust but the intake would look like a straight forward job. The major downside is the speedo/tach guage cluster. Its fully digital and you might have a problem installing a "standard" shiftlight & big tachometer. Lowering... no idea if the rear suspension can be lowered or even how.

As standard, the VIOS handles pretty well through corners and willing to slide sideways controllably if pushed hard enough, although having crappy Goodyear NCT3 tires doesn't help in meeting the car's full potential. Stock suspension handles pretty well, surprisingly not stiff for a light car but it would plow the front end somewhat in hard cornering.

Note: the VIOS lacks ABS & airbag but makes up for more engine power, manual tranny option and predictable handling.

My vote would be the Toyota VIOS.

**Tikoyman** · July 25th, 2003 05:50 AM

my vote goes to Britney....este Vios pla!
http://www.unet.net.ph/paul/roninblade/vios/vios_3.jpg

mk · July 25th, 2003 10:56 AM

maybe its only an marketing gimmick by honda....just wait in few months to come....i think honda would release the 1.5 city here just like what happened before...

**ssaloon** · July 25th, 2003 11:04 AM

Originally posted by Tikoyman
my vote goes to Britney....este Vios pla!
http://www.unet.net.ph/paul/roninblade/vios/vios_3.jpg

angas ng vios na yun ah!

bagay na bagay yung porma! mukang altis tlga!

**ozcity** · July 25th, 2003 11:20 AM

Originally posted by mk
maybe its only an marketing gimmick by honda....just wait in few months to come....i think honda would release the 1.5 city here just like what happened before...

malabo yata ilabas ang 1.5 because mawawala market ng
civic..

**ghosthunter** · July 25th, 2003 11:29 AM

The reason why Honda is avoiding a 1.5 City is to avoid stealing sales of the Civic... thats what happened to the City vs Civic

**IMm29** · July 25th, 2003 12:21 PM

Originally posted by ghosthunter
The reason why Honda is avoiding a 1.5 City is to avoid stealing sales of the Civic... thats what happened to the City vs Civic

Good point, since they do have Civics with 1.5L engines, unlike Toyota that only sells 1.6L Altises. Also, as pointed out in another thread (i think), there is little performance (3hp ata)added-on to the 1.5L engine of the City vs. the 1.3L engine.

**ghosthunter** · July 25th, 2003 04:05 PM

while we are on the topic of the City 1.3 ... I just saw my first new model Honda CITY with a big shiny muffler. The city was color black with everything stock except for the muffler. Heavy black tint all around including the windshield.

Pathetic if the driver wants to "race" with it.

**mazdamazda** · July 28th, 2003 09:25 AM

kinda ot...

i've just noticed... ang daming mayayabang na may-ari ng bnew na city and vios! no tints tapos kung maka titig eh parang naiingit ako sa auto nila! eh hindi naman maka diskarte sa trafik and as ghosthunter said, pathetic...

**jackndabox29** · July 28th, 2003 09:38 AM

i've just noticed... ang daming mayayabang na may-ari ng bnew na city and vios! no tints tapos kung maka titig eh parang naiingit ako sa auto nila!

Pre baka may crush lng sayo (j/k) o nagsisi na un ang binili nila kaya naiingit sa oto mo...

Pero un mga ganyan d pinapatulan... mostly kung mukha pang high school o college student ung driver...

But IMO, a modified vios with the 1.5 engine wouldn't be pathetic... coz i think it has capabilities for racing...

**ssaloon** · July 28th, 2003 09:46 AM

Originally posted by mazdamazda
kinda ot...

i've just noticed... ang daming mayayabang na may-ari ng bnew na city and vios! no tints tapos kung maka titig eh parang naiingit ako sa auto nila! eh hindi naman maka diskarte sa trafik and as ghosthunter said, pathetic...

i agree pare! when i got off from work last friday, patawid ako sa pedestrian lane, tapos may padating na vios... binagalan pa naman din tapos sabay rev ng gas! di ako pinatawid! kups ang pucha! :mad:

**ozcity** · July 28th, 2003 10:29 AM

naku yun pa naman ang balak ko...a black city then
dark tint...heheheh pathetic pala dating nun...

**mazdamazda** · July 28th, 2003 11:53 AM

Originally posted by ozcity
naku yun pa naman ang balak ko...a black city then
dark tint...heheheh pathetic pala dating nun...

pre, i think you missed ghosthunter's point... he was talking about the city being a street racer... it wouldn't even stand a chance...

mk · July 28th, 2003 11:54 AM

marami nga mayabang na city ngayon...sinasadya nilang bagalin para pansinin lang sila lahat ng tao...losers!

**mazdamazda** · July 28th, 2003 11:58 AM

Originally posted by mk
marami nga mayabang na city ngayon...sinasadya nilang bagalin para pansinin lang sila lahat ng tao...losers!

kaninang umaga may ganyan... tumatawid sya, mag right turn naman ako... aba ang sama ng titig! eh yung rav4 pa dala ko...

edi sinundan ko nga, ang bagal naman... ayaw pa magpa overtake... pero ayun, nagawan ng paraan at naka overtake rin! buset...

**pajerokid** · July 28th, 2003 12:07 PM

Those agressive behavior some of you guys noticed is what i would term "The New Car (pa)Effect".

I would describe this as a feeling of superiority when driving a brandnew car, albeit a City or a Vios. Parang yung kapitbahay ko na naka AUV (di ko na sabihin what kind.)

Mukhang gago, rev ng rev sa harap ng gate ko as if maiinggit ako dahil bago ride nya :D

**ozcity** · July 28th, 2003 12:12 PM

pathetic nga kung rezing rezing nya yun ...meron
din kami kapitbahay na ganyan..hehheh kakabadrip din

mk · July 28th, 2003 12:35 PM

pajerokid...hulain ko....crosswind xuv? haha...
bakit kaya ganun ang mga tao ngayon noh....?

**mazdamazda** · July 28th, 2003 01:06 PM

Originally posted by pajerokid
Mukhang gago, rev ng rev sa harap ng gate ko as if maiinggit ako dahil bago ride nya :D

with a paj and rav4 in your garage, how could you? :cool:

**ghosthunter** · July 28th, 2003 06:52 PM

Originally posted by mazdamazda
pre, i think you missed ghosthunter's point... he was talking about the city being a street racer... it wouldn't even stand a chance...

exactly my point... but that doesn't stop people from trying though. So far, I have yet to see a new Honda City with all the bells and whistles of a "street-racer" like mags, lowering, big exhaust and body kit (and alloy wing!). Thank God for that! ;)

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