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December 9th, 2013 06:29 PM #11
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December 9th, 2013 06:30 PM #12
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December 9th, 2013 07:49 PM #13
Those paper specs are rarely indicative of real-world performance.
Case in point - Vios 1.3 vs City 1.3.
Vios: 85 hp * 6000 / 122 nm * 4400
City: 100 hp * 6000 / 128 nm * 4800
The City makes much more power and a little more peak torque (at a slightly higher rpm). Based on this, it's easy to say that the City will have better performance.
However, anyone who's driven both would say that the Vios feels much peppier in city driving, and even at highway driving (80-120 kph) it doesn't feel breathless. The City on the other hand, takes a lot of revving to get into the powerband. It likes to be shifted at at least 2500 rpm to feel alive.
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December 9th, 2013 10:32 PM #16
The 1.3L i-VTEC engines that Honda puts on the City and Jazz needs the extra pressure on the gas pedal to make it run at an acceptable cruise. Even the 1.5L still lacks the extra pull when needed at low rpm.
If you want the extra torque, go get yourself a bigger engine. There is no replacement for displacement, unless you go the turbo path.
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December 9th, 2013 11:11 PM #17
Even with turbos, displacement matters because larger displacements inherently generate more torque.
Comparing the 3.0V Fort and the 2.2L Ranger, though the Ranger has higher torque (375 Nm vs 343 Nm), the Fort has much more low-end grunt due to the annoying turbo lag of the Ranger.
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December 10th, 2013 12:37 AM #19
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December 10th, 2013 09:10 AM #20
It boils down to your needs and preferences. Drag racers and open highway speeders will always go for hp (yo!) but these will get whipped on a mountain road and a technical track by the car with a good dose of low end torque. In most cases, it's the balance between the two that most people prefer nowadays. Test drive lang katapat niyan.
Back in the 1990s and early 2000s, Honda's were referred to as torqueless wonders (taas ng hp pero sobrang bitin sa low end); at least with the newer models, it's less evident already.
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