Honda City '09 or Corolla Altis '09

[HondaBoy™]

Guys which would you choose between the two, the soon to be release City or the current Altis. Thanks

[cablespy]

compact vs mid-size sedan? I think it's better to compare city vs vios or altis vs civic.

Altis for me. It's a higher category than a city.

[HondaBoy™]

These days kasi add ka lang ng 100k+ ibang category na.

[kompressor]

compact vs mid-size sedan? I think it's better to compare city vs vios or altis vs civic.

Altis for me. It's a higher category than a city.

It should've been subcompact vs compact sedans.


If I'd compare it to the gen 2 vios, the city wins for me in the looks and interior department. But we all have to wait until the city hits the city streets.

Corolla vs Civic? I prefer again Civic's modern interior.


However depende rin kasi sa buyer's reasons for having a car. My vote still goes to toyota because of honda's upkeep costs. (For buyers like me who looks at bnew cars as keepers)

[ghosthunter]

Guys which would you choose between the two, the soon to be release City or the current Altis. Thanks

Hard to say without having test driven the new 2009 H.City

[[archie]]

ill have to go with the altis on this, medyo hindi sila same league. definitely higher yung altis kahit base model.

[ghosthunter]

On the other hand, if you asked new 2008 Honda Jazz vs new 2008 Corolla Altis, I would have said Jazz.

[niky]

Hard to say without having test driven the new 2009 H.City

Ditto.

Nobody here has driven the City 2009, yet. The new Altis is, obviously, much better than the current Honda City, in terms of ride comfort, seating space and comfort and looks, but the next Honda City promises to be much better, still.

If you want to know... wait a few months.

[icon]

sorry to hijack this thread, i was looking at these 2 cars plus the civic but eliminating the city as release is a few months away pa.
so choices ko na lang are the 2008 civic 1.8V m/t and altis 1.6G m/t, which would be a better buy. going into 2009, are they going to change bodies? browsing thru the honda forums, there are rumors of a 2009 minor facelift.

fc, almost the same din daw
power, goes to civic, it's a 1.8 after all.
price wise they are almost the same +/- 10-20k.

opinions?

[tidus1203]

Civic will likely have a facelift next year. Corolla sigurado minor changes lang yan if ever since this year lang lumabas.

[HondaBoy™]

Jan. na daw labas ng city...

[lazyfoot]

if its between the city and altis then for sure get the altis
but if its between a civic and an altis then its another matter.

[icon]

as the civic is going to have a minor facelift (daw) by mid 2009. I am back on topic now sa city vs altis.
may confirmation na ba if the altis is gonna have the engine change as rumor has it they are doing away with the 1.6L engine and have 1.8 and 2.0. Does that mean prices will also go up also?

Seems underpowered ang corolla 1.6L engine * 109ps, the city 1.3 will have 100ps. I am looking at M/T of either the altis 1.6G or the city 1.3S.

With the classification of compact vs subcompact sedans, can't find the info in the spec sheet but how much liter or whatever unit am I gaining? I know subcompacts are being designed to have roomier interiors and with just 10-20cm difference in length you can't really gain/lose much.

[ryan]

Guys which would you choose between the two, the soon to be release City or the current Altis. Thanks

Between the two, I'm quite partial towards the new 1.5L City as I'm considering getting a low cost, low maintenance car next year.

City's interior finish seems quite upscale (from the pics) and all the important features I need (e.g. A/T, decent power + fuel economy, spacious + many compartments, dual airbags + ABS/EBD, alarm, etc) are already included for under 800k.

While the bigger A/T Altis is also nice and will probably cost just around 100k more, I don't see a good enough reason in getting one since space on the City will probably be good enough to fit 4-5 people.

I'll just use the money saved for fuel.

[a9828]

Between the two, I'm quite partial towards the new 1.5L City as I'm considering getting a low cost, low maintenance car next year.

City's interior finish seems quite upscale (from the pics) and all the important features I need (e.g. A/T, decent power + fuel economy, spacious + many compartments, dual airbags + ABS/EBD, alarm, etc) are already included for under 800k.

While the bigger A/T Altis is also nice and will probably cost just around 100k more, I don't see a good enough reason in getting one since space on the City will probably be good enough to fit 4-5 people.

I'll just use the money saved for fuel.

agree with the features and initial cost savings with city. but PM-wise assuming casa pareho and to follow the manual's sched, talo ka sa honda, alam nating lahat yun. toyota pa rin lumalabas na mas mura. if you plan to sell the car within 3yrs, ok siguro yung honda kasi you get to save on expenses up front. long term though, mukhang mas makakamura ka sa toyota pa rin.

but yes, this is not apples to apples so fuel consumption, comfort, other factors aren't considered as well.

[ryan]

agree with the features and initial cost savings with city. but PM-wise assuming casa pareho and to follow the manual's sched, talo ka sa honda, alam nating lahat yun. toyota pa rin lumalabas na mas mura. if you plan to sell the car within 3yrs, ok siguro yung honda kasi you get to save on expenses up front. long term though, mukhang mas makakamura ka sa toyota pa rin.

but yes, this is not apples to apples so fuel consumption, comfort, other factors aren't considered as well.

I see, actually I never really compared casa maintenance cost even in my other cars before so I have no idea. Anyways, since both are compacts and Japanese, I'm assuming running cost for either should be fine.

I just hope City seating position won't be too low or sporty like the Civic. Civic is nice but I just find the seating position and hard seats very uncomfortable

[icon]

the gas tank on the 09 city is still under the front seats so seating position would probably be higher than the normal sedans like the current city.

I just hope City seating position won't be too low or sporty like the Civic. Civic is nice but I just find the seating position and hard seats very uncomfortable

[HondaBoy™]

Atlast the new City 09 is here

[onewaytrip]

does the altis have an aux-in socket for mp3 players? automatic city is 5-speed. altis (even the 2.0) is 4-speed. :|

but if we are talking about 800k and up, definitely altis.

[niky]

gas tank is in the front seats. hmm... safe ba yan sa banggaan

How many front/rear end collisions end up crumpling the floor in the middle of the cabin, at the b-pillars where the fuel tank is? It's probably infintesimal compared to the number of rear-end collisions that rupture rear tanks. And the fact that the tank is above the floor makes it safer from underbody puncture than a standard tank.

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The City is a sporty little car, superior transmission, engine technology, better fit and finish... but it's just not as comfortable as the Altis.

The Altis will get marginally poorer fuel economy in traffic, but the suspension is so much softer than the City's, and the seats of the new Honda City are just like the Civic's... with a hard piece of foam sticking straight into the small of your back. The Corolla's seats are much softer, and are wider and better shaped than the Vios's (which feel a bit wrong). The only reason not to get the Corolla is the poor build (some rattly parts inside) and the stupidly light steering.

Thus:

Buying for family: Corolla

Buying for self: City.

Wait, scratch that. If you're buying for yourself? get the Jazz. Better seats than the City, and it still has the sophisticated ULT.