Honda BR-V vs entry-level mid-sized SUV (Everest/Fortuner/Montero/etc)

[kevinworld]

Innova will be a better choice. Top of the line innova is a killer. Go for a lower variant

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[cristian ZDN]

IMO as an average class citizen, piliin nalang ang lowest price sa mga SUV, total kung ano ang nagagawa ni toyota ay nagagawa naman din ni Mitsu, ni Honda or nang iba. except 4WD di kaya ni BR-V at ung topspeed at hatak pala magkakaiba pero i doubt magpapatakbo ka ng 145kph above with you family inside. yay...........
Mostly 7 seaters vehicle ay pang long drive kasama ang pamilya (Maybe).
ang mas interesado ako ay doon sa lifespan ng sasakyan at ung maintainance nito after 5 years, baka magsusunog lang ng Pera pagnagkataon, well if hindi issue ang pera ay piliin nalang ang pinakamahal na SUV para walang sisihan sa huli : )
IMO pipiliin ko nalang ang readily available spareparts na kahit hindi sa CASA as makakabili ka : ) pagnagkabreakdown kasi it takes 3 to 4weeks even months na nakatengga ang sasakyan dahil naghihintay ng pyesa.

[GTi]

For just a little over a million bucks, I find the base Innova to offer much value for money. 1GD engine same as the one in the top of the line Fort which costs twice as much is waaaaaay better than the overburdened L15 originally meant for tiny cars like the Jazz.

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[MR_BIG18]

if you value space, skip the brv..its ok for the village mamas and titas, going to their zumba sessions..

[StockEngine]

For just a little over a million bucks, I find the base Innova to offer much value for money. 1GD engine same as the one in the top of the line Fort which costs twice as much is waaaaaay better than the overburdened L15 originally meant for tiny cars like the Jazz.

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The CVT has speed ratios. At a stop it will utilize a ratio thats is better than most torque converters hence its not overworked.

Even in overtaking the engine will not go over 4000. Unless your really floor it or you go into S-mode.

The 1.5 and cvt combination is really good. The pedal is light and you will be a light foot eventually because of the cvt. It does drop ratios depending on demand and its seemless.







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[GTi]

I suppose the CVT would help to an extent. But even though it's power output is considered good enough for a modern 1.5L engine, it would still be considered adequate at best when ferrying seven full sized adult passengers. I dare not call it underpowered when other 7 seater MPVs have had to make do with even less. However, if put side by side with an Innova 2.8J, given the similar pricing, I wouldn't even hesitate. 😁 The huge power difference aside, diesel benefits are just too much to ignore, especially nowadays when the difference between diesel and gas prices is at around P12-14/L.

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[StockEngine]

Sure there are advantages for the innova. what the brv offers is a sub 1m option for those who cant go over 1m. Some cant really stretch their budget above 1m.



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[shemcristobal]

Innova and BR-V were our final options, and we settled for BR-V Navi because
1. Fits our budget to purchase (own the unit), i.e. no bearing on gas consumption or maintenance.
2. Fits our garage.
3. Fits the road ways to our house.
4. It's the newest 'kid on the block'.
5. It's our first Honda (we had experienced Toyota and Ford already)
6. Wanting to experience new tech like keyless entry, push start button.

Bottomline, fits our needs. We could have spent a hundred thousand more and got Innova but we could have headache problems down the road.


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[minicarph]

the only reason why I get the honda brv is IF i'm not afraid of old age diesel. sa sobra dumi diesel dito sa'tin, kahit anong gara car mo, talagang sablay performance. but that's me if I dont considering idling sa traffic, parang metro pa din sa taxi ang ubos nyan brv

[jvo]

Hi, would also like to seek advice regarding the same choices, below are my thoughts:

Situation: Current car, City, has 3 months baby that is why we are considering getting a new ride, it seems the city has not much room. Planning to keep the car for 8-10 yrs.

BRV - considering the S variant
pros: easier to drive, stability control is standard, high chance that it is reliable (currently have a 2010 city and no issues)
cons: gas is more expensive, has less space
other: Savings in SRP can be used for fuel but I think space will be compromised as we have a 3 months old baby and when traveling car will be occupied by me, wife, yaya, baby in car seat, mother in law, stroller and diaper bag.

Innova - considering the E variant or should I go G (PPV price point)
pros: diesel, space, based on what I read more comfortable than PPVs, easier to drive compared to PPVs? Toyota reliability? Toyota has cheapest maintenance cost among diesels?
cons: maintenance cost of diesel engine (but savings in fuel can help), wifey is not sold on the looks, less features, no stability control (do we really need this for tall cars?)
other: Is the issue regarding jerking already fixed on newer batches? Will I have a big adjustment coming from sedan?

Fortuner - considering the G variant
pros: diesel; for me has the best looks, wifey also likes the looks, Toyota reliability? Toyota has cheapest maintenance cost among diesels?
cons: matagtag (is this really night and day compared to city? or is it overrated?), maintenance cost of diesel engine (but savings in fuel can help), less features, no stability control (do we really need this for tall cars?), tires are more enpensive
other: Is the issue regarding jerking already fixed on newer batches? Will I have a big adjustment coming from sedan?

Montero - considering the GLS variant
pros: best speced engine, more features than Innova and Fortuner, from what I read it is the most comfortable PPV, easiest to drive among PPVs?
cons: maintenance maybe is more expensive than toyota, rear and rear quater is not that appealing, no stability control (do we really need this for tall cars?), tires are more enpensive, reliability?
other: is it reliable? family had the previous montero it seems that maintenance is expensive and after 5 yrs they sold it because of emerging issues, they had the GLS SE variant. Will I have a big adjustment coming from sedan?

Everest - considering the Trend variant
pros: also has the most comfortable ride, best speced among the choices, has almost complete safety features, we like the looks
cons: maintenance maybe is more expensive than toyota, tires are more expensive, reliability
others: still not sold of having a Ford for long term ownership, my brother already have the same variant. Will I have a big adjustment coming from sedan?

Should I also consider CUVs or other PPVs? Max budget is 1.5M.

Thanks in advance for the input.

[StockEngine]

You did an excellent research. Test drive na lng imo.

[yebo]

toyota innova in a heart beat. honda brv is small and cramped compared to the innova. and if you can stretch the budget go for the everest trend. space, comfort, high ride, safety.

tatagal kaya yang cvt pag7 ang sakay mo lagi? reliable ang honda but the reliable honda you knew most probably had a conventional a/t.

[minicarph]

ako din innova na lang, most people don't realize that the suspension of the innova is CUV - like. it's like buying a honda crv or cx5 na diesel tapos mas mura pa. and syempre toyota low maintenance.

why buy those CUV na existing na biglang bagsak presyo 3 years from now, kakaawa yun mga nagme-meyari ng mga CRV or Forester or CX5, ang bentahan kagad unit nila 500K or lower sa used market. eh etong Innova 3 years from now, aagawan yan sa 700K kasi diesel

[jaggerx3]

toyota innova in a heart beat. honda brv is small and cramped compared to the innova. and if you can stretch the budget go for the everest trend. space, comfort, high ride, safety.

tatagal kaya yang cvt pag7 ang sakay mo lagi? reliable ang honda but the reliable honda you knew most probably had a conventional a/t.

Malaki kaya difference ng maintenance ng Everest sa Innova?

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[yebo]

Malaki kaya difference ng maintenance ng Everest sa Innova?

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sa everest thread nasa P9k for every 10k km/6months ang 2.2 model. nagpapamahal lang yung air filter kasi palit kahit 3k km lang tinakbo. tago mo lahat ng air filter sa 3 years na casa maintenance then use it for the succeeding years.
no idea of innova pm. every 5k or 10k km ba?

[jaggerx3]

sa everest thread nasa P9k for every 10k km/6months ang 2.2 model. nagpapamahal lang yung air filter kasi palit kahit 3k km lang tinakbo. tago mo lahat ng air filter sa 3 years na casa maintenance then use it for the succeeding years.
no idea of innova pm. every 5k or 10k km ba?

Kahit 3k pa lang palit na? Why.
Considering getting one. And cosindering your advice about the eve

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[Janemar]

Brv - okay ito if hirap si misis or ikaw sa malaking sasakyan. Mas maliit kasi at madali overall ipark, singit, etc.

Innova - If road trip kayo every weekend at mga tipong buong pamilya or barkada kasama, ito kunin ko.

SUV - Balance ng porma, tibay and seating capacity. Everest, ito ang pinaka safe na oto sa lahat ng nilatag mo na choices. Just search ASEAN ANCAP test for raw data. Driver electronic aids + 6 airbags. - parang 4x4 lang yan. Mas gugustuhin mo na alam mo meron ka kahit di mo kailangan kaysa naman wala ka pag kinailangan mo na. ;p

Sa maintenance di na nagkakalayo lahat yan. As mentioned, ung consumo ng brv since gas is ma offset din sa tipid ng crudo at tibay ng suspension ng ppv.

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[vincem]

I was in your position a few weeks ago. Initially, was considering the usual options for a family vehicle ie. fortuner, montero, everest, mux etc. All of those models would cost 1.35-1.5m

Good thing i saw the BRV. I also had the initial assumption that it would be underpowered, until i test drove and was impressed with engine performance. The 1.5 engine always had enough power even with 3 adults and cabin space was even more impressive.

The P989k price was the deciding factor, i easily saved P400k, which will be used for fuel for the next 6-8 yrs. So i decided on the 1.5S and brought it up to tagaytay with 4 adults and a few bags. Power is more than sufficient and cabin space is very good and well thought out.



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[jut703]

Just some rough computations since everyone throws around the phrase "mababawi mo rin yung extra for the SUV because it's diesel".

Assumptions:
BRV city FC: 8 km/L
PPV city FC: 9 km/L
Diesel cost: P32/L
Gas cost: P45/L
Annual distance travelled: 15,000 km

BRV annual fuel cost: 84k
PPV annual fuel cost: 53k
Difference: 31k/yr

Price difference between BRV and mid-range PPV: approx. 450k. So, 450k divided by 31k per year?

It will take roughly 15 years to offset the price difference between a BRV and a mid-range PPV.

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[MR_BIG18]

I was in your position a few weeks ago. Initially, was considering the usual options for a family vehicle ie. fortuner, montero, everest, mux etc. All of those models would cost 1.35-1.5m

Good thing i saw the BRV. I also had the initial assumption that it would be underpowered, until i test drove and was impressed with engine performance. The 1.5 engine always had enough power even with 3 adults and cabin space was even more impressive.

The P989k price was the deciding factor, i easily saved P400k, which will be used for fuel for the next 6-8 yrs. So i decided on the 1.5S and brought it up to tagaytay with 4 adults and a few bags. Power is more than sufficient and cabin space is very good and well thought out.



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how tall are you sir?

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