Honda BR-V vs entry-level mid-sized SUV (Everest/Fortuner/Montero/etc)

[MR_BIG18]

I was in your position a few weeks ago. Initially, was considering the usual options for a family vehicle ie. fortuner, montero, everest, mux etc. All of those models would cost 1.35-1.5m

Good thing i saw the BRV. I also had the initial assumption that it would be underpowered, until i test drove and was impressed with engine performance. The 1.5 engine always had enough power even with 3 adults and cabin space was even more impressive.

The P989k price was the deciding factor, i easily saved P400k, which will be used for fuel for the next 6-8 yrs. So i decided on the 1.5S and brought it up to tagaytay with 4 adults and a few bags. Power is more than sufficient and cabin space is very good and well thought out.



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how tall are you sir?

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[jvo]

Thanks all sa replies. Leaning towards the Everest because of the safety features but I might miss how easy to drive the City compared to PPVs.
Regarding BRV is the shoulder room for 2nd row better than the City? Can it seat 3 people comfortably in 2nd row? How about in Everest's 2nd row?

Thanks!

[jut703]

Thanks all sa replies. Leaning towards the Everest because of the safety features but I might miss how easy to drive the City compared to PPVs.
Regarding BRV is the shoulder room for 2nd row better than the City? Can it seat 3 people comfortably in 2nd row? How about in Everest's 2nd row?

Thanks!

While both are marketed as 7-seaters, the Everest will definitely be more spacious across all 3 rows.

It's a tradeoff between maneuverability and space.

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[StockEngine]

Thanks all sa replies. Leaning towards the Everest because of the safety features but I might miss how easy to drive the City compared to PPVs.
Regarding BRV is the shoulder room for 2nd row better than the City? Can it seat 3 people comfortably in 2nd row? How about in Everest's 2nd row?

Thanks!

2nd row comfort for 3 is always compromised for non full sized vehicles. Shoulders will be brushing for 3 for sure. Innovas fortuners elantras corollas included.

[jut703]

Just some rough computations since everyone throws around the phrase "mababawi mo rin yung extra for the SUV because it's diesel".

Assumptions:
BRV city FC: 8 km/L
PPV city FC: 9 km/L
Diesel cost: P32/L
Gas cost: P45/L
Annual distance travelled: 15,000 km

BRV annual fuel cost: 84k
PPV annual fuel cost: 53k
Difference: 31k/yr

Price difference between BRV and mid-range PPV: approx. 450k. So, 450k divided by 31k per year?

It will take roughly 15 years to offset the price difference between a BRV and a mid-range PPV.

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[Walter]

Just some rough computations since everyone throws around the phrase "mababawi mo rin yung extra for the SUV because it's diesel".

BRV annual fuel cost: 84k PPV annual fuel cost: 53k
Difference: 31k/yr
Price difference between BRV and mid-range PPV: approx. 450k. So, 450k divided by 31k per year?

It will take roughly 15 years to offset the price difference between a BRV and a mid-range PPV.

But "they" would argue that ... resale value of a diesel SUV / PPV is much higher ... you can sell the 1.5M SUV for 1M after 15 years ... the BR-V will have low resale value ... only 100T after 15 years ...

[dct]

But "they" would argue that ... resale value of a diesel SUV / PPV is much higher ... you can sell the 1.5M SUV for 1M after 15 years ... the BR-V will have low resale value ... only 100T after 15 years ...

7 seater "honda" badge vs "ford" badge? Sa honda ang tingin kong less depreciation. Let say walang issue yan. Lets see

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[istan]

But "they" would argue that ... resale value of a diesel SUV / PPV is much higher ... you can sell the 1.5M SUV for 1M after 15 years ... the BR-V will have low resale value ... only 100T after 15 years ...

Haha! Anong suv yan?
2013 Fortuner 3.0v was 1.7M, its selling 1.050M now.

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[GTi]

Just some rough computations since everyone throws around the phrase "mababawi mo rin yung extra for the SUV because it's diesel".

Assumptions:
BRV city FC: 8 km/L
PPV city FC: 9 km/L
Diesel cost: P32/L
Gas cost: P45/L
Annual distance travelled: 15,000 km

BRV annual fuel cost: 84k
PPV annual fuel cost: 53k
Difference: 31k/yr

Price difference between BRV and mid-range PPV: approx. 450k. So, 450k divided by 31k per year?

It will take roughly 15 years to offset the price difference between a BRV and a mid-range PPV.

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Naaliw ako sa mga gantong computations mo bro. Utak negosyante talaga! Naisip ko lang... Price difference between BRV and base Innova: 32k. 32k divided by 31k per year = just 1 year to offset the price difference between a BRV and a base Innova. 😆

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[jut703]

Naaliw ako sa mga gantong computations mo bro. Utak negosyante talaga! Naisip ko lang... Price difference between BRV and base Innova: 32k. 32k divided by 31k per year = just 1 year to offset the price difference between a BRV and a base Innova. 😆

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Training from high school and college I guess. I like to quantify everything instead of just making blanket statements without basis. 😊

That said, quantitative analysis is incomplete without looking at the big picture. From a pure fuel xpense perspective, it doesn't make sense to get a more expensive diesel PPV. However, if you consider power, durability, resale value, image, and space, the PPV ultimately trumps the BRV. In any decision matrix, it's important to properly assign weights to each criterion to make a solid choice.

BTT, a base Innova is a manual. That alone is a deal-breaker for many. Same case for the value-for-money Hilux E. Depending on the person, the value of an automatic might be priceless.

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[jvo]

Should I also get the Everest Trend even though my brother just got one last December? Or it would be better to have 2 different PPVs in the family? In this case I might get the Montero, I just can't seem to justify the price of Fortuner with its current specs. Or Fortuner G is better than Montero GLS?

TIA

[Walter]

If you want the Ford Everest then get one ... Your brother has one so the better for you to scrutinize the Ford Everest ... Toyota Fortuner is the 2nd top selling vehicle for 2016 next to Toyota Vios ... there must be a reason why people buy the Toyota Fortuner even if it has a stiffer ride than the others ... Toyota Fortuner even outsold the Toyota Innova ...

[dct]

Should I also get the Everest Trend even though my brother just got one last December? Or it would be better to have 2 different PPVs in the family? In this case I might get the Montero, I just can't seem to justify the price of Fortuner with its current specs. Or Fortuner G is better than Montero GLS?

TIA

How close are you with your brother? If you're really close na naghihiraman kayo ng gamit, i would choose different para maiba. Pero kung di rin kayo maghihiraman, ok lang same car. Just my opinion

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[GTi]

Should I also get the Everest Trend even though my brother just got one last December? Or it would be better to have 2 different PPVs in the family? In this case I might get the Montero, I just can't seem to justify the price of Fortuner with its current specs. Or Fortuner G is better than Montero GLS?

TIA

If you really like the Everest then I don't see why not. We have two Santa Fe's. Car suited our needs, its fuel efficient, fast and comfortable so when we needed another car we figured, why not? 😆

The Montero is worth considering though. Should be both faster and more fuel efficient than the Everest 2.2 what with the addition of 20bhp and 2 more cogs in the tranny.

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[Janemar]

Should I also get the Everest Trend even though my brother just got one last December? Or it would be better to have 2 different PPVs in the family? In this case I might get the Montero, I just can't seem to justify the price of Fortuner with its current specs. Or Fortuner G is better than Montero GLS?

TIA

Test drive mo na lang both kasama family. Kung saan kayo comfortable dun kayo.

For FC, as per my opismate na naka monty. He gets 10km/L on his daily commute from las pinas to QC.

[siuu3ci]

Should I also get the Everest Trend even though my brother just got one last December? Or it would be better to have 2 different PPVs in the family? In this case I might get the Montero, I just can't seem to justify the price of Fortuner with its current specs. Or Fortuner G is better than Montero GLS?

TIA

The Montero is a very good choice. My daily city drive fairview to BGC considering heavy traffic 9km/L pa rin. Sa highway 100km/hr *8th gear cruise lng around 1.4k rpm smooth na sa smooth. Soft ang ride very comfortable di ka malalayo sa feeling riding sedan. Tpos power nya pag past 2k rpm grabe sa hatak. Initial feel ko nga parang pde compare sa Trailblazer sa lakas. 0-100kph tantsa ko 10secs GLS variant. Features sulit na sulit push button + electronic park brake + GPS guide safety + 4 eye back sensor + reverse cam + paddle shifter to name a few i like

[sientobente]

Just some rough computations since everyone throws around the phrase "mababawi mo rin yung extra for the SUV because it's diesel".

Assumptions:
BRV city FC: 8 km/L
PPV city FC: 9 km/L
Diesel cost: P32/L
Gas cost: P45/L
Annual distance travelled: 15,000 km

BRV annual fuel cost: 84k
PPV annual fuel cost: 53k
Difference: 31k/yr

Price difference between BRV and mid-range PPV: approx. 450k. So, 450k divided by 31k per year?

It will take roughly 15 years to offset the price difference between a BRV and a mid-range PPV.

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Thanks for this quick analysis. Then let's add the Maintenance costs pa and higher insurance cost(for a more expensive vehicle), the offset in price will take much longer pa.

[StockEngine]

Just some rough computations since everyone throws around the phrase "mababawi mo rin yung extra for the SUV because it's diesel".

Assumptions:
BRV city FC: 8 km/L
PPV city FC: 9 km/L
Diesel cost: P32/L
Gas cost: P45/L
Annual distance travelled: 15,000 km

BRV annual fuel cost: 84k
PPV annual fuel cost: 53k
Difference: 31k/yr

Price difference between BRV and mid-range PPV: approx. 450k. So, 450k divided by 31k per year?

It will take roughly 15 years to offset the price difference between a BRV and a mid-range PPV.

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Once the tax(adjustment)on diesels are imposed (supposedly) and add in the diesel maintenance cost ( ford says its 3x- 4x the cost per year?)

I'd like to see your analysis on that.

Im thinking gas innovas and brvs included in the frying pan(fray lol)

Paging Niky Tamayo 🤔

[dct]

Sta fe or sorento. Crossover na 7 seater

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[Calistro]

A new car' looks are just novelty. After you've racked up the miles, it wouldn't matter as much anymore.

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