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    Magandang araw mga boss, hingi lang ako ng advice nyo sa plan kong pagbili ng sasakyan. Here are my details:

    2nd hand kasi kaya ko cash and ayoko mag amortization
    Planning to use it mga 5-7 years
    I have one toddler and planning to add another
    Mostly city driving, Makati - Ortigas route, occasional out of town trips
    Office worker, so sabak sa traffic to
    Minimal car knowledge, but I plan to take Honda Safety Driving Center. Supposedly tinuturo din nila basics ng car repair etc.

    Primarily reliability, maintenance, space, comfort, and fc concern ko though I know hindi maganda fc ng CUV's but I would need the space
    Resale value after 5-7 years, ok na ako sa cguro 100k - 200k na resale


    Choices:

    CRV 2012/2013 - around 650k (estimate based sa prices sa olx and philkotse)
    Montero 2011 - around 650k
    Xtrail 2012/2013 - around 450k
    CRV 2011 - around 500k
    ASX 2012


    Concerns:

    Cost of maintenance of Montero vs others
    FC of Xtrail vs value (year model vs price); worth it ba xtrail bilhin compared to others given na mas bago pa and mas mura?
    +150k worth it sa CRV 2012/2013 model vs 2011?

    Please enlighten me on my choices above and ano piliin nyo in case

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    Of the 5 choices...

    Montero lang ang Diesel and it can seat 7...

    Yes family of 3+1 kayo but the car seats for 2 kids means that the yaya will need to sit sa 3rd row (something you can't do with the other choices)

    It's not the most comfortable car... pero masasanay ka din (plus the car is old, so di na din sya kasing stiff ng bago)

    Maintenance... depende na lang ito sa swerte mo. But granting everything is equal, mas madalas change oil mo sa diesel.

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    salamat sa reply sir!

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    How about a Forester or CX5? For around 700k, you can find one which is around 4-5 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egan101 View Post
    How about a Forester or CX5? For around 700k, you can find one which is around 4-5 years old.
    Sir dati gusto ko sana forester, concern ko lang is baka kainin ako ng parts and maintenance nya, I read somewhere na its more expensive by 25%(or more?) even against honda.

    Actually stretch na yung 600k+ na budget, I'm trying to go 500k and lower sana

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamVince View Post
    Sir dati gusto ko sana forester, concern ko lang is baka kainin ako ng parts and maintenance nya, I read somewhere na its more expensive by 25%(or more?) even against honda.

    Actually stretch na yung 600k+ na budget, I'm trying to go 500k and lower sana
    Common misconception about subarus are the maintenance cost.

    If sa casa ka mag papa PMS, then yes mahal (like all other casas). Pero kapag sa labas naman, same lang with other brands.
    I do my change oil and checkups sa Fusion R and reasonable naman price.

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    among your choices I will go with the biggest or with highest seat capacity.

    Since may Montero sa list mo why not include Fortuner and Everest? my Previous ride was a Everest 2011 (acquired new) just sold it November 2018 with 130,000 km. ang bumigay lang during the my ownership was the AC compressor that is before I sold it, I do my own oil change and basic maintenance which is every 10,000km after the warranty using premium brand fully synthetic oils, Motul/Royal Purple, Liqui Moly and like is around 500 to 700ph per lit, it needs 7.5 Liters. and had it's major service during it's 95,000 km (timing belt, changed all fluid, idler bearing etc.). Siguro may makikita kang low mileage and well maintained, but even at that mileage wala pa akong na encounter na major issues, reason lang why ko benenta is because it's manual. Tumatanda na at hirap nako sa traffic and then si wife will be in driving na rin, hinde kasi pang newbie ang Everest lalo na manual, in replacement we got now the new Civic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isotopes7 View Post
    among your choices I will go with the biggest or with highest seat capacity.

    Since may Montero sa list mo why not include Fortuner and Everest? my Previous ride was a Everest 2011 (acquired new) just sold it November 2018 with 130,000 km. ang bumigay lang during the my ownership was the AC compressor that is before I sold it, I do my own oil change and basic maintenance which is every 10,000km after the warranty using premium brand fully synthetic oils, Motul/Royal Purple, Liqui Moly and like is around 500 to 700ph per lit, it needs 7.5 Liters. and had it's major service during it's 95,000 km (timing belt, changed all fluid, idler bearing etc.). Siguro may makikita kang low mileage and well maintained, but even at that mileage wala pa akong na encounter na major issues, reason lang why ko benenta is because it's manual. Tumatanda na at hirap nako sa traffic and then si wife will be in driving na rin, hinde kasi pang newbie ang Everest lalo na manual, in replacement we got now the new Civic.
    Sir fortuner is ok sana kaso malayo ang presyo ng diesel, mas mahal by 100k-200k vs same year montero. Actually hindi ko na consider everest because of some horror stories from my friends regarding ford cars, kaya nag stick ako sa jap cars, and I'm not sure if I can do DIY

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    Would not pick that gen of Montero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean-archer View Post
    Would not pick that gen of Montero.

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    Sir dahil ba to sa SUA or some other problems inherent sa montero?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamVince View Post
    Sir dahil ba to sa SUA or some other problems inherent sa montero?
    Yeah the SUA thing real or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamVince View Post
    Sir dahil ba to sa SUA or some other problems inherent sa montero?


    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    ...
    and i do not believe in its SUA problem.
    good luck.


    I believe in SUA. It happened to me when I was driving our CR-V 98. I was depressing the brakes as I park. Then I saw that I was still moving!

    I continued depressing the brakes as there was a car in front of me. However, the car continued to accelerate.

    I was starting to panic! Then I had the inspiration to pull the handbrake.

    Then it hit me! I came to my senses and realized that I have stopped the car a long time ago. It was the car besides me that was moving.
    [emoji3]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    I believe in SUA. It happened to me when I was driving our CR-V 98. I was depressing the brakes as I park. Then I saw that I was still moving!

    I continued depressing the brakes as there was a car in front of me. However, the car continued to accelerate.

    I was starting to panic! Then I had the inspiration to pull the handbrake.

    Then it hit me! I came to my senses and realized that I have stopped the car a long time ago. It was the car besides me that was moving.
    [emoji3]
    Haha. Happened to me before. Grabe nerbyos ko eh. Wtf....[emoji1787]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    I believe in SUA. It happened to me when I was driving our CR-V 98. I was depressing the brakes as I park. Then I saw that I was still moving!

    I continued depressing the brakes as there was a car in front of me. However, the car continued to accelerate.

    I was starting to panic! Then I had the inspiration to pull the handbrake.

    Then it hit me! I came to my senses and realized that I have stopped the car a long time ago. It was the car besides me that was moving.
    [emoji3]
    mabuhay si mel brooks!
    heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    I believe in SUA. It happened to me when I was driving our CR-V 98. I was depressing the brakes as I park. Then I saw that I was still moving!

    I continued depressing the brakes as there was a car in front of me. However, the car continued to accelerate.

    I was starting to panic! Then I had the inspiration to pull the handbrake.

    Then it hit me! I came to my senses and realized that I have stopped the car a long time ago. It was the car besides me that was moving.
    [emoji3]
    Funny but it makes me dizzy when this happens, especially when I'm on a bus at bus terminals. Weird.

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    A good choice would be a used Toyota Innova ... then a Toyota Fortuner or Mitsubishi Montero Sport ... If you are still new to owning vehicles and budget is a concern, better to get a Honda or Toyota ... Avoid Ford, Subaru and / or Mazda ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    I believe in SUA. It happened to me when I was driving our CR-V 98. I was depressing the brakes as I park. Then I saw that I was still moving!

    I continued depressing the brakes as there was a car in front of me. However, the car continued to accelerate.

    I was starting to panic! Then I had the inspiration to pull the handbrake.

    Then it hit me! I came to my senses and realized that I have stopped the car a long time ago. It was the car besides me that was moving.
    [emoji3]
    The best thing to check if youre car is still moving is to look at a lamp post or any immovable structure.. if that structure moves then youre car is moving!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamVince View Post
    Sir dahil ba to sa SUA or some other problems inherent sa montero?
    ang hanapin mong montero yun gumamit ng engine Pajero Bk, yun 4m40 ba yun kasi sigurado SUA Free yun

    ang may SUA suspect ko yun mga 4d56, usually yun mga cheaper monteros like the non-vgt kasi dun nandaya ang Mitsu, sinalpak nila engine ng 80s L300FB

    to be safe just get the GT Monteros, yun ang TOTL eh, SUA free yun

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    ang hanapin mong montero yun gumamit ng engine Pajero Bk, yun 4m40 ba yun kasi sigurado SUA Free yun

    ang may SUA suspect ko yun mga 4d56, usually yun mga cheaper monteros like the non-vgt kasi dun nandaya ang Mitsu, sinalpak nila engine ng 80s L300FB

    to be safe just get the GT Monteros, yun ang TOTL eh, SUA free yun
    What's causing the SUA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wave24/7 View Post
    What's causing the SUA?
    The driver's right foot and ego not to admit the fault

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