Accord, Cruze, Altis, Lancer or City

[JMJMJM]

hinde talaga ako makapag decide. hinde ko manarrow down ung choices. nakapag basa na ko sa forums, reviews and un ganun pa din. so my choices are:

Honda Accord 2.4S
Chevrolet Cruze 1.8 LT
Toyota Corolla Altis 2.0 V
Mitsubishi Lancer EX GT-A
Honda City 1.5 E

mga bagay na gusto ko iconsider, ung performance (syempre), reliability, quality ng parts, comfort... ang ung value for money. medyo lalamang siguro ung accord dito pero mahal din kasi siya kaya lalamang. ang akin lang, ung sulit ung pera. in the long run, ung mas magiging ok. kasi pag bago pa lang, medyo pantay-pantay pero pg tumagal, dun na nagkaka alaman eh.

kung my mga naeencounter na kayong problema sa kotse, paki sabi naman. thanks.

[ghosthunter]

Mitsubishi Lancer EX GTA

performance - check
reliability - check
quality ng parts - check
comfort - check
sulit ng pera - check
porma - check
sounds - check

The Mitsu Lancer EX GTA fits your criterias well. The 2.0L 4B11 engine is powerful (155hp) yet capable of good fuel economy. The CVT tranny gives the car a smooth drive yet can be manually controlled via paddle shifters for more aggressive driving. The suspension is slightly stiffer & better than the lower model Lancer EX which gives the GTA an advantage in handling. Interior is spacious... although the seats are cloth covered and not leather. The rockford sound system is superb with controls on the seating wheel for ease of use. Downside with this car is the small-ish trunk. Some owners have issues where the factory headunit will not tune to AM band.

The Chevy Cruze is a great car (a bit slow though in AT form) but I still have doubts about long term aftersales support from the casa. They used to have a reputation for long waiting times for parts, expensive prices for parts and skyhigh labor prices. You can check the CRUZE thread if Chevy has improved or not.

The Toyota Corolla is your average car. Nothing outstanding but nothing bad either. The 2.0L engine gives this car a small boost in straight line performance but the soft suspension & tranny isn't up to the task.

[niky]

It's also worth noting that given the price difference, a Honda Accord costs about an entire Vios more than the cheapest car on your list.

If you want something that costs peanuts to maintain, buy peanuts. Most modern compacts with 2 liter engines don't cost that much less to service than midsized cars of old... though the Accord costs much more to maintain than this bunch.

[GTi]

hinde talaga ako makapag decide. hinde ko manarrow down ung choices. nakapag basa na ko sa forums, reviews and un ganun pa din. so my choices are:

Honda Accord 2.4S
Chevrolet Cruze 1.8 LT
Toyota Corolla Altis 2.0 V
Mitsubishi Lancer EX GT-A
Honda City 1.5 E

mga bagay na gusto ko iconsider, ung performance (syempre), reliability, quality ng parts, comfort... ang ung value for money. medyo lalamang siguro ung accord dito pero mahal din kasi siya kaya lalamang. ang akin lang, ung sulit ung pera. in the long run, ung mas magiging ok. kasi pag bago pa lang, medyo pantay-pantay pero pg tumagal, dun na nagkaka alaman eh.

kung my mga naeencounter na kayong problema sa kotse, paki sabi naman. thanks.

Instead of the Accord 2.4S, consider the Sonata Premium nalang. Its an entire hundred grand cheaper, has almost all of the Accord's performance if not better, and a whole lot of toys topped with that panoramic sunroof. Definitely it in the midsize sedan department if you are looking for value for money. Among the compact sedans in your list, I'd get the Lancer EX GT-A. Its got aggressive looks with performance to match and lots of toys to boot. The Cruze is fine, but I'd suggest the VCDi variant if you don't mind the infamous dealership woes. Honda City? That's going a bit too low I suppose, especially since you are considering the Accord, which is around twice its price.

[jhnkvn]

Grabe naman price range niyan. Of course, if you don't need the cash for anything else, get the most expensive one in the list: Honda Accord. If you need the cash, then why bother placing it in the choices?

Psst, get a Sonata non-premium version if that suits your woes. It's a bit more expensive than the GT-A but I daresay it'll turn more heads than it. Pero weird talaga choices mo bro. If performance is a key factor, I'll throw out the Accord or any midsize sedan (save for a Mazda6 and the Subby Legacy) in that case. If you aren't fickle about toys, I think the entry-level Genesis Coupe would serve you well.

Kahit ano gawin mo, 2.0T > 2.0 N/A in performance. Wonders of a turbocharger

[JMJMJM]

thanks sa mga nagcomment na. pero still, di pa din ako makapg decide. regarding the choices, oo aminado ako. pag prices, magkakalayo talaga. dad ko kasi may gusto ng honda accord. pero sabi ko baka gusto niya consider ung medyo mura-mura pero sulit naman.

question lang uli, lets say lancer ska cruze na lang choices.

ok ba after-sales service ng mitsubishi? ska resale value ng mga kotse nila?
ung cruze daw kasi, dami daw features eh. para sa price niya, daming kasamang kung ano-ano like ung gps ska ung camera pg umaatras.

ska pla, kmsta fuel consumption ng lancer ska cruze.
and... san assembled ang lancer ska cruze? cruze daw, thailand and lancer japan? is that true?

[sm2by]

Mitsubishi Aftersales- depends on the dealer, from my experience;

Citimotors Las Pinas scratched my car they ended up paying for the repaint since I was able to prove it's their fault.

Union Motors Paco, F*cked up my brakes had to get the squeaking fixed at a different place...

Cruze may have a lot of features, but resale and depreciation is CRAP, after 4-5 years those cars can't be even sold for half of their worth when new.....

I AGREE with jhnkvn get the SONATA its really a great car for the money, it kicks the Accord or Camry out of the park hands down......

[JMJMJM]

Mitsubishi Aftersales- depends on the dealer, from my experience;

Citimotors Las Pinas scratched my car they ended up paying for the repaint since I was able to prove it's their fault.

Union Motors Paco, F*cked up my brakes had to get the squeaking fixed at a different place...

Cruze may have a lot of features, but resale and depreciation is CRAP, after 4-5 years those cars can't be even sold for half of their worth when new.....

I AGREE with jhnkvn get the SONATA its really a great car for the money, it kicks the Accord or Camry out of the park hands down......

nabanggit ko nga sa dad ko ung sonata eh kaso ayaw talaga. kahit ung elantra eh, sinabi ko nga na maganda daw un according sa mga reviews kaso wala eh kaya stuck ako sa mga choices na yan. and now, mukang cruze or lancer na lang ang pagpipilian.

regarding sa dealer, ung marcos hi-way dealer ng mitsubishi... kamusta? my nababalitaan ba kayo na hinde maganda?

[Starex_Gold]

Sabit yung City 1.5E

Lancer GT-A vs. Cruze 1.8LT = Lancer GT-A
If Lancer GT-A vs. Cruze 2.0 VCDi LT = Cruze

Pero I also agree with jhnkvn and sm2by, Sonata nalang kung ganun lang din. Or Genesis 2.0T GL M/T (Entry) kung ok lang sa'yo M/T.

Cruze = Made in Korea.
Lancer = Made in Cainta, Philippines.

[JMJMJM]

Sabit yung City 1.5E

Lancer GT-A vs. Cruze 1.8LT = Lancer GT-A
If Lancer GT-A vs. Cruze 2.0 VCDi LT = Cruze

Pero I also agree with jhnkvn and sm2by, Sonata nalang kung ganun lang din. Or Genesis 2.0T GL M/T (Entry) kung ok lang sa'yo M/T.

Cruze = Made in Korea.
Lancer = Made in Cainta, Philippines.

bakit naging lamang ang Cruze VCDi sa Lancer GT-A pero pg Cruze LT lang, maspinili mo ung Lancer?

[Starex_Gold]

Kasi diesel yung Cruze VCDi. For sure the maintenance is more expensive than the Lancer pero matipid sa crudo tsaka sure na malakas ang hatak nyan. At yung Cruze VCDi LT siguradong mas mataas ang resale value niyan sa 1.8LT lang. IMO the Cruze VCDi is a better pick than Lancer GT-A because of the diesel engine. But again, for its price, Sonata (non-Premium), Genesis Coupe 2.0T M/T (Entry) or Tucson GL CRDi A/T would also be a good alternative.

Lancer GT-A over Cruze 1.8LT because the Lancer GT-A is simply better than the 1.8LT Cruze.

[niky]

nabanggit ko nga sa dad ko ung sonata eh kaso ayaw talaga. kahit ung elantra eh, sinabi ko nga na maganda daw un according sa mga reviews kaso wala eh kaya stuck ako sa mga choices na yan. and now, mukang cruze or lancer na lang ang pagpipilian.

regarding sa dealer, ung marcos hi-way dealer ng mitsubishi... kamusta? my nababalitaan ba kayo na hinde maganda?

Want your dad to change his mind?

The Cruze is a Korean car. It was engineered by a global team, but the main design and production center is GMDAT (Daewoo) in Korea.

The Lancer's engine was jointly developed with Hyundai, and Hyundai, indeed, supplies motors to Mitsubishi.

If your dad will consider those two cars, there's no reason not to consider Hyundais, which have better resale value and better reliability ratings than the Cruze or Lancer.

By the way... the Elantra 1.8 GLS is the bomb... as quick as most 2.0s, and drives very, very well. Think Honda FD Civic without the stiff ride or back-breaking seats. Should also fit the fuel economy and maintenance brief to a T.

[JMJMJM]

Want your dad to change his mind?

The Cruze is a Korean car. It was engineered by a global team, but the main design and production center is GMDAT (Daewoo) in Korea.

The Lancer's engine was jointly developed with Hyundai, and Hyundai, indeed, supplies motors to Mitsubishi.

If your dad will consider those two cars, there's no reason not to consider Hyundais, which have better resale value and better reliability ratings than the Cruze or Lancer.

By the way... the Elantra 1.8 GLS is the bomb... as quick as most 2.0s, and drives very, very well. Think Honda FD Civic without the stiff ride or back-breaking seats. Should also fit the fuel economy and maintenance brief to a T.

nice.. ganda nga daw talaga elantra eh

so korea pala talaga ung cruze, pero sabi samin ng agent, gawa daw sa thailand eh.

clarify ko lang, lancer engine lang un? ung ibang parts, like air-condition unit, lights, san gawa? ska san ba assembled?

[niky]

The Lancer's engine is based on Hyundai's Theta design... Mitsubishi merely has its own intake, exhaust, cams and programming. Same wtih Chrysler. So that engine in the Dodge Caliber is also related to the engine in the Lancer and the Sonata.

The Cruze is produced in Thailand, but that still doesn't change that the engineering was carried out in the GMDAT center in Korea.

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The country-of-origin hardly matters anymore with car manufacturers. The Cruze was engineered by Daewoo, while much of the engineering in terms of suspension and engines was done by the German company, Opel. The diesel engine is by an Italian firm, VM Motori. New Hyundais are engineered by a multinational team, and the design arm of Kia is headed by a white guy. The local Ranger was developed in Thailand and suspension engineering was headed by a Brit who used to do Jaguars... and yet it's an "American" car based on a Japanese truck!

Hell... remember the Mazda MX5? The seminal sports car? Engineered in the UK.

The thing that really matters is whether the company has spent money to properly engineer a car with good durability and performance rather than what address is on the company door.

[renzo_d10]

lol * the city 1.5e haha!

lancer vs. cruze?

depends. if it's the lt, i'd get the lancer anytime. undeniably powerful and beautiful. however, if it's the vcdi cruze, i'd get the cruze. scratch off any doubts regarding it's maintenance and enjoy the heck out of it. the vcdi isn't just any common diesel. para siyang crdi. hence the output is powerful.

[GTi]

The Lancer's engine is based on Hyundai's Theta design... Mitsubishi merely has its own intake, exhaust, cams and programming. Same wtih Chrysler. So that engine in the Dodge Caliber is also related to the engine in the Lancer and the Sonata.

The Cruze is produced in Thailand, but that still doesn't change that the engineering was carried out in the GMDAT center in Korea.

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The country-of-origin hardly matters anymore with car manufacturers. The Cruze was engineered by Daewoo, while much of the engineering in terms of suspension and engines was done by the German company, Opel. The diesel engine is by an Italian firm, VM Motori. New Hyundais are engineered by a multinational team, and the design arm of Kia is headed by a white guy. The local Ranger was developed in Thailand and suspension engineering was headed by a Brit who used to do Jaguars... and yet it's an "American" car based on a Japanese truck!

Hell... remember the Mazda MX5? The seminal sports car? Engineered in the UK.

The thing that really matters is whether the company has spent money to properly engineer a car with good durability and performance rather than what address is on the company door.

Haha~ Even the world of cars are really into the mestizo trend nowadays. Since the Cruze came from Thailand, the pricing should have been slashed lower, right? Now why is the Cruze VCDi priced at a cruel 1.288M? But then, if money is no object, this seems to be the best choice, having excellent handling, locomotive pulling power, and great gas mileage. Now if we compare the Cruze VCDi and the Lancer EX GT-A in terms of handling, which one is better?

[oliver1013]

WHHHAAAATTT all along hyundai pala makina ng Lancer ko







NICE

[jhnkvn]

Well, I'm not sure about Hyundai derived Lancer engines. Seems a bit off if I can say without prior research as Mitsubishi alone has the capability to build good engines even without the help of an external party.

Still, Lancer VS Cruze? Kahit ano gawin ko, I'll still get the Lancer even if the Cruze is the VDCI variant. The fuel you save is compensated by the high maintenance cost.

[GTi]

Actually, it isn't that Mitsubishi got them from Hyundai, as far as I know. These engines are GEMA engines, designed jointly between Mitsubishi, Hyundai and Chrysler (not sure if there are any others) so that they are basically the same. Mitsubishi's 4B1x engines = Hyundai Theta II engines.

[Verbl Kint]

Since the Cruze came from Thailand, the pricing should have been slashed lower, right? Now why is the Cruze VCDi priced at a cruel 1.288M?

Recent flooding in Thailand (they're having their version of Ondoy right now) will surely have an impact on supply and maybe even pricing.