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  1. Join Date
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    #11
    Kasi diesel yung Cruze VCDi. For sure the maintenance is more expensive than the Lancer pero matipid sa crudo tsaka sure na malakas ang hatak nyan. At yung Cruze VCDi LT siguradong mas mataas ang resale value niyan sa 1.8LT lang. IMO the Cruze VCDi is a better pick than Lancer GT-A because of the diesel engine. But again, for its price, Sonata (non-Premium), Genesis Coupe 2.0T M/T (Entry) or Tucson GL CRDi A/T would also be a good alternative.

    Lancer GT-A over Cruze 1.8LT because the Lancer GT-A is simply better than the 1.8LT Cruze.

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    #12
    Quote Originally Posted by JMJMJM View Post
    nabanggit ko nga sa dad ko ung sonata eh kaso ayaw talaga. kahit ung elantra eh, sinabi ko nga na maganda daw un according sa mga reviews kaso wala eh kaya stuck ako sa mga choices na yan. and now, mukang cruze or lancer na lang ang pagpipilian.

    regarding sa dealer, ung marcos hi-way dealer ng mitsubishi... kamusta? my nababalitaan ba kayo na hinde maganda?
    Want your dad to change his mind?

    The Cruze is a Korean car. It was engineered by a global team, but the main design and production center is GMDAT (Daewoo) in Korea.

    The Lancer's engine was jointly developed with Hyundai, and Hyundai, indeed, supplies motors to Mitsubishi.

    If your dad will consider those two cars, there's no reason not to consider Hyundais, which have better resale value and better reliability ratings than the Cruze or Lancer.

    By the way... the Elantra 1.8 GLS is the bomb... as quick as most 2.0s, and drives very, very well. Think Honda FD Civic without the stiff ride or back-breaking seats. Should also fit the fuel economy and maintenance brief to a T.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Want your dad to change his mind?

    The Cruze is a Korean car. It was engineered by a global team, but the main design and production center is GMDAT (Daewoo) in Korea.

    The Lancer's engine was jointly developed with Hyundai, and Hyundai, indeed, supplies motors to Mitsubishi.

    If your dad will consider those two cars, there's no reason not to consider Hyundais, which have better resale value and better reliability ratings than the Cruze or Lancer.

    By the way... the Elantra 1.8 GLS is the bomb... as quick as most 2.0s, and drives very, very well. Think Honda FD Civic without the stiff ride or back-breaking seats. Should also fit the fuel economy and maintenance brief to a T.
    nice.. ganda nga daw talaga elantra eh

    so korea pala talaga ung cruze, pero sabi samin ng agent, gawa daw sa thailand eh.

    clarify ko lang, lancer engine lang un? ung ibang parts, like air-condition unit, lights, san gawa? ska san ba assembled?

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    #14
    The Lancer's engine is based on Hyundai's Theta design... Mitsubishi merely has its own intake, exhaust, cams and programming. Same wtih Chrysler. So that engine in the Dodge Caliber is also related to the engine in the Lancer and the Sonata.

    The Cruze is produced in Thailand, but that still doesn't change that the engineering was carried out in the GMDAT center in Korea.

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    The country-of-origin hardly matters anymore with car manufacturers. The Cruze was engineered by Daewoo, while much of the engineering in terms of suspension and engines was done by the German company, Opel. The diesel engine is by an Italian firm, VM Motori. New Hyundais are engineered by a multinational team, and the design arm of Kia is headed by a white guy. The local Ranger was developed in Thailand and suspension engineering was headed by a Brit who used to do Jaguars... and yet it's an "American" car based on a Japanese truck!

    Hell... remember the Mazda MX5? The seminal sports car? Engineered in the UK.

    The thing that really matters is whether the company has spent money to properly engineer a car with good durability and performance rather than what address is on the company door.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #15
    lol * the city 1.5e haha!

    lancer vs. cruze?

    depends. if it's the lt, i'd get the lancer anytime. undeniably powerful and beautiful. however, if it's the vcdi cruze, i'd get the cruze. scratch off any doubts regarding it's maintenance and enjoy the heck out of it. the vcdi isn't just any common diesel. para siyang crdi. hence the output is powerful.

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    #16
    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    The Lancer's engine is based on Hyundai's Theta design... Mitsubishi merely has its own intake, exhaust, cams and programming. Same wtih Chrysler. So that engine in the Dodge Caliber is also related to the engine in the Lancer and the Sonata.

    The Cruze is produced in Thailand, but that still doesn't change that the engineering was carried out in the GMDAT center in Korea.

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    The country-of-origin hardly matters anymore with car manufacturers. The Cruze was engineered by Daewoo, while much of the engineering in terms of suspension and engines was done by the German company, Opel. The diesel engine is by an Italian firm, VM Motori. New Hyundais are engineered by a multinational team, and the design arm of Kia is headed by a white guy. The local Ranger was developed in Thailand and suspension engineering was headed by a Brit who used to do Jaguars... and yet it's an "American" car based on a Japanese truck!

    Hell... remember the Mazda MX5? The seminal sports car? Engineered in the UK.

    The thing that really matters is whether the company has spent money to properly engineer a car with good durability and performance rather than what address is on the company door.
    Haha~ Even the world of cars are really into the mestizo trend nowadays. Since the Cruze came from Thailand, the pricing should have been slashed lower, right? Now why is the Cruze VCDi priced at a cruel 1.288M? But then, if money is no object, this seems to be the best choice, having excellent handling, locomotive pulling power, and great gas mileage. Now if we compare the Cruze VCDi and the Lancer EX GT-A in terms of handling, which one is better?

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    #17
    WHHHAAAATTT all along hyundai pala makina ng Lancer ko







    NICE

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    #18
    Well, I'm not sure about Hyundai derived Lancer engines. Seems a bit off if I can say without prior research as Mitsubishi alone has the capability to build good engines even without the help of an external party.

    Still, Lancer VS Cruze? Kahit ano gawin ko, I'll still get the Lancer even if the Cruze is the VDCI variant. The fuel you save is compensated by the high maintenance cost.

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    #19
    Actually, it isn't that Mitsubishi got them from Hyundai, as far as I know. These engines are GEMA engines, designed jointly between Mitsubishi, Hyundai and Chrysler (not sure if there are any others) so that they are basically the same. Mitsubishi's 4B1x engines = Hyundai Theta II engines.

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    #20
    Quote Originally Posted by GTi View Post
    Since the Cruze came from Thailand, the pricing should have been slashed lower, right? Now why is the Cruze VCDi priced at a cruel 1.288M?
    Recent flooding in Thailand (they're having their version of Ondoy right now) will surely have an impact on supply and maybe even pricing.

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