hilux 2.5 G vs. strada 2.5 glx

[niky]

Di naman... I'm just one of the very few actually interested in on-road pick-up performance...

sa engine power: Navara

The Navara has more power on paper, but it's still not as powerful as the Ranger 3.0. There's less response below 2000 rpm (even though the turbo supposedly spools up at 1800 rpm) and the "170 hp" version runs out of puff at 3500 rpm. The 3.0s still have a wider powerband and more useable power...

But then... we're talking about the 4x2s. the 4x2 Navara has "only" 144hp, just a few ponies more than the 4x2 Ranger 2.5, which I've timed to the same 0-100 km/h time as I achieved in the Navara 4x4. Part of that may have something to do with the fact that the Ranger is a few hundred kilos lighter than the 4x4 Navara, though.

And that's not to say the Navara isn't fast. At higher speeds, that extra horsepower will matter a lot, but in traffic and at legal road speeds (between 60-100 km/h), it doesn't really have much of an advantage over the Ranger.

[nickriingen]

Try to consider also the following pick up models :
1). Ford Ranger Trekker
2). Mazda BT-50
3). Isuzu D- Max 4x2
4). Nissan Navarra

The Hi-lux and the Strada 4x2 Variants still uses the obsolete and unreliable timing belt in their engines. The above mentioned pick ups uses timing chain in their DOHC drives.

[locoroco777]

To the Thread starter....

Let me clarify some things regarding on why you should choose the strada by using a post of our friend here CARLover17....

Hilux 2.5 G has more toys and accessories than the Strada 2.5 GLX.The 4x2 Hilux is fuly loaded while Strada isnt.

Yes, I agree....but considering the price of the 2.5G hilux between the strada GLX it already has a big margin......big enough to fully "accessorized" your strada GLX from the wheels to the Roof...

Strada is best if your looking for a 4x4 city sleeker.

Exactly as what others have mentioned..

But if your going for the 4x2, mountainous terrain or such, Strada is not the choice.

but this I have to disagree...



See the white and silver strada? those are both 4x2's that sir ianmitsulancer was talking about..... tackling one of the many landslide areas of Halsema Highway in mountain province.....unfortunately we wasn't able to take pics on the muddy portions because we don't want mud splashing all over the interior....

to sum it up....both pickups could really perform well....its just a matter of what your needs are....ask both owners of it and I can say they are all satisfied with their own respective trucks......But then again it just all boils down to you.....Choose Well my friend...

Happy New year!! ^__^

[kevin3000]

sa speed ok naman ang hilux at strada diba locorocco? hehehe kahit sa sabi sa spec sheet na 102hp lang ang hilux may ibubuga naman

[locoroco777]

sa speed ok naman ang hilux at strada diba locorocco? hehehe kahit sa sabi sa spec sheet na 102hp lang ang hilux may ibubuga naman

yup....I can attest to that...proven ko nayan with Kevin's truck nagkasabayan na kami minsan sa NLEX

another is that it has the same engine as the innova's which we currently own....and we are also more than satisfied with it.....but the thing that is im wondering about eh bakit inde nila inaadvertise na turbo yung 2.5?(anu nga yung engine code kevs?) eh kitang kita naman yung turbo pag binuksan yung makina

[scharnhorst]

yup....I can attest to that...proven ko nayan with Kevin's truck nagkasabayan na kami minsan sa NLEX

another is that it has the same engine as the innova's which we currently own....and we are also more than satisfied with it.....but the thing that is im wondering about eh bakit inde nila inaadvertise na turbo yung 2.5?(anu nga yung engine code kevs?) eh kitang kita naman yung turbo pag binuksan yung makina

most people don't care? hehe.

and nowadays halos lahat na ng diesels sold, turbocharged na. ang hindi nalang ata e yung 4D56 ng L300 versa at Advie.

And yes, stradas aren't slouches in off roading either - I've seen stradas swim in stock form (Not talking about Ondoy.)

[kevin3000]

yup....I can attest to that...proven ko nayan with Kevin's truck nagkasabayan na kami minsan sa NLEX

another is that it has the same engine as the innova's which we currently own....and we are also more than satisfied with it.....but the thing that is im wondering about eh bakit inde nila inaadvertise na turbo yung 2.5?(anu nga yung engine code kevs?) eh kitang kita naman yung turbo pag binuksan yung makina

baka gusto nila patago hehehe kunwari mabagal

[locoroco777]

most people don't care? hehe.

and nowadays halos lahat na ng diesels sold, turbocharged na. ang hindi nalang ata e yung 4D56 ng L300 versa at Advie.

And yes, stradas aren't slouches in off roading either - I've seen stradas swim in stock form (Not talking about Ondoy.)

well that explains it somehow...hehehe.....yup the strada can really swim mud and river...hehehe....include mo na pati nung ondoy...hehehe

baka gusto nila patago hehehe kunwari mabagal

hehe why not? pwede rin...

[noobskie]

The Ranger 2.5 is a good option to consider. Tested the 2.5 engine (in the new Everest though) and it is just superb. The 2.5 Hilux though is no slouch even if it looks anemic on paper. The Strada though is really tough to beat in price/performance so I'd go for the GLX on this one. Just upgrade to thicker tires and some other mods and you're all set.

[scharnhorst]

The horsepower ratings would help at the top end. The 2.5 liter strada and hilux can reach 160 and beyond, but the strada will probably reach it sooner.

but then again, it's the torque that really matters! that's why we love our diesels

The innova (with the D-4D) is great to drive. Lots of torque and power plus refinement, it's really a generation away from the 4Ja1 and this N/A ranger I'm driving.

But here are even more powerful diesels out there. The innova tops out at around 160, but the "fastest speed in a diesel vehicle" thread has tsikoteers posting speeds twice that of the legal NLEX/SCTEX limit

well that explains it somehow...hehehe.....yup the strada can really swim mud and river...hehehe....include mo na pati nung ondoy...hehehe

pati mga sedan nag swim in stock form nung ondoy!

[locoroco777]

The horsepower ratings would help at the top end. The 2.5 liter strada and hilux can reach 160 and beyond, but the strada will probably reach it sooner.

yup....HP rating dictates the topend....However I'm not sure about the top speed of the hilux 2.5 exceeding 160 Kph...because our innova which has the same engine has a pinned downed speedometer at 160 Kph, 162 Kph pag may downward slope...hehe....anybody can confirm it with the hilux?

but then again, it's the torque that really matters! that's why we love our diesels

Right on bro! God Bless RUDOLF!! (not the red nose rain deer, the diesel)

pati mga sedan nag swim in stock form nung ondoy!

kulang na nga lang yung mga yamaha boat engines saka fishing rod pwedeng pwede na isabak sa pangingisda eh...hehe....haaay lets just all make fun about it BTW...masyado lang disturbing pag iisipin pa natin yung mga bad things na nangyari during that time......

[ydreph962]

yesterday i texted both my sales agents in mitsubishi and toyota, thinking that whoever is the first one to call me will be my choice..the s.a. from toyota called me up and asked me if i'd made up my mind to order the hilux..when i said yes he told me to wait for his call because he will look for a hilux in other casas for toyota alabang has no stock..sad to say no stock even in other showrooms and told me to wait till next month..

as to the advice of sir locoroco777, better to wait for the hilux.. i think i'll take that..

i've been back reading the strada thread and i really am happy with the way the members are relating with each other and that's one reason i want to have a strada and join the club with their activities and outreach programs.. i salute you guys and keep it up!!!

thank you to those who replied and gave their insights on my inquiry..
happy new year to all tsikoteers..!!!
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[ydreph962]

sorry double post..

[Horsepower]

Strada is cheaper, more compact (it's a compact pickup).

Navara on the other hand is a midsize pickup. Hence, it's longer, wider, ergo the arresting presence on the road. That of course means it also is more expensive (200K more). It must be the weight distribution because it can also attack corners with better precision.

If I have the budget, I'd definitely get a Navara though Strada GLX is also okay for me. One thing I really like about Navara is the fuel consumption for such a large vehicle.

The most serious problem posted by the owners at the Strada thread that can render the engine dead was the SCV issue but it's really a minor thing apparently caused by fuel impurities (which perhaps can be remedied by a better fuel filter if it is so). Even if it’s out of warranty, it’s just cheap, around 16-18k probably after 3years. Minor quirks of the strada that you should expect when you drive out of the dealership are the uneven height, the other side being higher than the other, squeaky shocks, steering column issues, and the Right-hand drive Handbrake (it would be nice if they sell a proper LHD console). GLX used to be the best deal of the lot, until the safety features were deleted as basic as ABS.

Nissan Navara however, so far, doesn't have such problem that I know of. Being a massive midsize pickup, it is a couple of hundred thousand more than the GLX. It is worth I think as you get more metal and raw power for your money with features like ABS, EBD, Brake Assist (power brakes) and more importantly, road presence. If the Strada looks super ***y, Navara looks mighty bad ass especially in Black and very elegant but still bad ass in White. Astig is the word for that truck. hehehe.

EuroNCAP tested both Navara and Strada (Hilux isn't sold in Europe I think). Navara scored only 3-stars and Strada, 4-stars in frontal impact. Navara only edged Strada in child safety, something to consider if you travel with a child, and pedestrian protection, which is good when bump someone accidentally. Ranger has the best engine in my opinion having all that German technology underneath (Bosch and BorgWarner) though its shell is just not there yet.

So for me, Navara or Strada or Ranger if you want a serious go-anywhere LSD equipped 4x2 truck. Both Navara and Strada are more comfort oriented and hence are more spacious. I tried sitting at the back of the Ranger and having long legs is quite a problem as your knees will have to be squeezed in.

So, in a nutshell, Navara (fully loaded in 4x2 & 4x4) or Strada. Ranger if one has a primary car already.

[Drave]

Strada is cheaper, more compact (it's a compact pickup).

Navara on the other hand is a midsize pickup. Hence, it's longer, wider, ergo the arresting presence on the road. That of course means it also is more expensive (200K more). It must be the weight distribution because it can also attack corners with better precision.

If I have the budget, I'd definitely get a Navara though Strada GLX is also okay for me. One thing I really like about Navara is the fuel consumption for such a large vehicle.

The most serious problem posted by the owners at the Strada thread that can render the engine dead was the SCV issue but it's really a minor thing apparently caused by fuel impurities (which perhaps can be remedied by a better fuel filter if it is so). Even if it’s out of warranty, it’s just cheap, around 16-18k probably after 3years. Minor quirks of the strada that you should expect when you drive out of the dealership are the uneven height, the other side being higher than the other, squeaky shocks, steering column issues, and the Right-hand drive Handbrake (it would be nice if they sell a proper LHD console). GLX used to be the best deal of the lot, until the safety features were deleted as basic as ABS.

Nissan Navara however, so far, doesn't have such problem that I know of. Being a massive midsize pickup, it is a couple of hundred thousand more than the GLX. It is worth I think as you get more metal and raw power for your money with features like ABS, EBD, Brake Assist (power brakes) and more importantly, road presence. If the Strada looks super ***y, Navara looks mighty bad ass especially in Black and very elegant but still bad ass in White. Astig is the word for that truck. hehehe.

EuroNCAP tested both Navara and Strada (Hilux isn't sold in Europe I think). Navara scored only 3-stars and Strada, 4-stars in frontal impact. Navara only edged Strada in child safety, something to consider if you travel with a child, and pedestrian protection, which is good when bump someone accidentally. Ranger has the best engine in my opinion having all that German technology underneath (Bosch and BorgWarner) though its shell is just not there yet.

So for me, Navara or Strada or Ranger if you want a serious go-anywhere LSD equipped 4x2 truck. Both Navara and Strada are more comfort oriented and hence are more spacious. I tried sitting at the back of the Ranger and having long legs is quite a problem as your knees will have to be squeezed in.

So, in a nutshell, Navara (fully loaded in 4x2 & 4x4) or Strada. Ranger if one has a primary car already.

Konting correction, sir. The Strada 4x2 has no rear LSD. Also, 4x2's cannot do serious go-anywhere even if they're LSD equipped unless they're accompanied by 4x4's with towstraps.

[Horsepower]

Thanks for the correction sir. I'll keep that in mind (re: LSD 4x2).

[scharnhorst]

*Horsepower: lol * the ***y vs. badass analogy
*locoroco777: he had a very shiny nose!

yesterday i texted both my sales agents in mitsubishi and toyota, thinking that whoever is the first one to call me will be my choice..the s.a. from toyota called me up and asked me if i'd made up my mind to order the hilux..when i said yes he told me to wait for his call because he will look for a hilux in other casas for toyota alabang has no stock..sad to say no stock even in other showrooms and told me to wait till next month..

as to the advice of sir locoroco777, better to wait for the hilux.. i think i'll take that..

i've been back reading the strada thread and i really am happy with the way the members are relating with each other and that's one reason i want to have a strada and join the club with their activities and outreach programs.. i salute you guys and keep it up!!!

thank you to those who replied and gave their insights on my inquiry..
happy new year to all tsikoteers..!!!
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Sir, what trim level are you getting? Pics of your new ride when it comes!

[redoctober]

mali ng post -- sorry