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    Which among these mid-size, pick-up based SUVs has the best A/T? (Montero Sport, Fortuner, Everest or Alterra. This is without regard to the engine.

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    Have driven the Montero Sport GLS SE and Fortuner 2.5G (D4d) only so far. My vote is for the Fortuner. It feels lighter on its feet (the tranny) than the MS which feels heavy and dragging though the powerful engine makes up for it.

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    Monterosport, its the only one with the Manual mode shifter (+/-)... and Mitsubishi makes the most reliable AT transmissions....

    Ford is the worst my friend had an 01 Expedition blown AT transmission ....
    Toyota is good/reliable but a soft and comfort-tuned AT...
    Isuzu.... slow....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sm2by View Post
    Monterosport, its the only one with the Manual mode shifter (+/-)... and Mitsubishi makes the most reliable AT transmissions....
    Matibay ba talaga A/T ng Mitsubishi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sm2by View Post
    Monterosport, its the only one with the Manual mode shifter (+/-)... and Mitsubishi makes the most reliable AT transmissions....

    Ford is the worst my friend had an 01 Expedition blown AT transmission ....
    Toyota is good/reliable but a soft and comfort-tuned AT...
    Isuzu.... slow....
    An Expedition doesn't share engines, transmissions or even engineering teams with the Everest, which is Mazda B-Series based.

    And as others have noted here... there are those of us with erh... "unfortunate" experiences with repairing Mitsubishi INVECS systems.

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    In my driving, the Fortuner transmission actually feels more responsive than the Montero Sport transmission... though this is on a case-to-case basis... the Montero 2.5's extra power makes it feel better than the Fortuner 2.5... whereas the Fort's 4AT really shines when mated to the 3.0... the Montero 3.2 feels sluggish in comparison.

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    The Everest 5-speed feels a bit indecisive with the 2.5. With the 3.0, it's the best engine-transmission combo in the class. But the Everest simply isn't a match for the Montero Sport in many other areas.

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    Let's talk about brakes instead? Because the brakes on all these trucks simply suck. :hysterical:

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    FOR ME

    2.7 VVTI A/T TOYOTA FORTUNER

    IS THE BEST ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by basti08 View Post
    i dont wanna compare Mitsubishis of yore with the new Montero Sport's tranny. But the INVECS-II tranny of the MS, if it is very much related to the INVECS-II of the Lancer Pizza Pie would mean no good. I've known several failing Mitsu trannies, from the INVECS-II equipped Lancers to the more conventional Galant 7th and 8th gen matics(failing to shift e.i stucked to 2nd etc, skipping gear, starting at 3rd gear, delays in downshift/upshifts etc).
    Baka naman kaya parehas naging experience ninyo ay sa parehas na shop lang kayo nagpapaservice. Or kung sakaling sa casa naman, ay di lang marunong mag troubleshot mga mechanic doon. Malamang may pinukpok lang gumana tapos binigay sa inyo na wala naman talagang nirepair kaya pabalik balik ang problema. Technology like the INVECS ay di pwede ang pachamba lang ang pagrerepair at pagcacalibrate. Pakitingnan na lang po itong link and see what I mean.
    http://www.pjchris.myqth.com/Pajero/23.pdf

    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    And as others have noted here... there are those of us with erh... "unfortunate" experiences with repairing Mitsubishi INVECS systems.
    Baka naman kaya po kayo nagkaroon ng unfortunate experience sa repair ay either palpak ang maintenance or palpak ang mechanic.

    Yung mga nagrerepair dapat ng mga system kagaya ng sa mga gumagamit ng artificial intelligence ay una alam dapat ang buong concept at logic ng system. Saka dapat din po may mga manual ang mga gumagalaw niyan. Minsan nga po kahit may manual na ay hindi pa sapat ang mga information na nakasulat (lalo na iba ang language ng manufacturer at translated lang mga manuals) kaya yung iba ay kailangan pang makipagcomunicate sa after service ng manufacturer mismo. What more pa kung papagalaw lang sa kay suking mechanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    An Expedition doesn't share engines, transmissions or even engineering teams with the Everest, which is Mazda B-Series based.

    And as others have noted here... there are those of us with erh... "unfortunate" experiences with repairing Mitsubishi INVECS systems.

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    In my driving, the Fortuner transmission actually feels more responsive than the Montero Sport transmission... though this is on a case-to-case basis... the Montero 2.5's extra power makes it feel better than the Fortuner 2.5... whereas the Fort's 4AT really shines when mated to the 3.0... the Montero 3.2 feels sluggish in comparison.

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    The Everest 5-speed feels a bit indecisive with the 2.5. With the 3.0, it's the best engine-transmission combo in the class. But the Everest simply isn't a match for the Montero Sport in many other areas.

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    Let's talk about brakes instead? Because the brakes on all these trucks simply suck. :hysterical:
    I agree with your comments about the Montero 3.2 and Fortuner 3.0, we own both vehicles and the Montero's response is really sluggish in comparison to the toyota, especially in the 1st and 2nd gear. Despite claims that it is adaptive, I don't feel that it has adapted to my style. Even in sport's mode, the Toyota still responds quicker.

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    Among the 4 SUV's , Montero Sport is the only one with sports mode automatic transmission Invecs II (Adaptive Shift Control + / -)

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    The Montero Sport may have Shiftronic in its transmission, but the Everest uses a 5 speed automatic transmission. The only one in its class to do so! It is not right to compare the Everest's transmission to the Expedition's, they're manufactured in different places with different parts and designs. American Fords and Thai Fords are worlds apart.

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