Grand Starex or Super Grandia?

[mda]

My mom is planning to get a sg, but she already got a problem. Because me and my brother are refusing to drive it when our often absent driver is not around. Coz sobrang pang-chauffeur driven lang talaga tong van na ito. Wala pa kong nakita na owner driven na sg.

Do you really need a van then?

I usually end up driving our Starex on sunday family trips when the driver isn't around. He gets the GS on weekdays though.

[renzo_d10]

grandstarex talaga winner...pero winner padin kaya after 10years?...

Stereotyping!

Kidding aside, probably yes. The old-body Starex has been around for a while (since 1996?) and I'm still seeing a lot running around MM lately. In fact, I see more of them than the Hi-Ace of the same year.

[jdee12]

Stereotyping!

Kidding aside, probably yes. The old-body Starex has been around for a while (since 1996?) and I'm still seeing a lot running around MM lately. In fact, I see more of them than the Hi-Ace of the same year.

1997 bro. Renzo

[jrn29]

grandstarex talaga winner...pero winner padin kaya after 10years?...

kaya Bro. nasa alaga lang ng sasakyan yan

kahit toyota o anung brand ng sasakyan. kapag ginulpi mo peru hindi mo inalagaan, baka kahit 5 years lang bumigay din yan hehe.

[ronw123w124]

We have both an SG and GS in our family. My bro owns the SG while me and my mom own a pair of GS CVX. Having driven both, the GS is light years ahead of the SG. Pero mas masarap umupo sa captains chair ng SG kesa sa GS.

[dct]

We have both an SG and GS in our family. My bro owns the SG while me and my mom own a pair of GS CVX. Having driven both, the GS is light years ahead of the SG. Pero mas masarap umupo sa captains chair ng SG kesa sa GS.

How about the FC, durabilty and maintenance of both van?

[atog]

kaya Bro. nasa alaga lang ng sasakyan yan

kahit toyota o anung brand ng sasakyan. kapag ginulpi mo peru hindi mo inalagaan, baka kahit 5 years lang bumigay din yan hehe.

sir dito kasi sa province may nakikita ako starex na may kalawang na..toyota bihira,ang honda kalawagin din..kaya wait nalang natin after 15-20years

[IMm29]

sir dito kasi sa province may nakikita ako starex na may kalawang na..toyota bihira,ang honda kalawagin din..kaya wait nalang natin after 15-20years

Grand Starex na kinalawang na?

[vinj]

^I'm willing to bet those are the first gen or surplus Starexes from the late 1990s. Hyundai has long corrected those issues.

And kalawang is a result of the muck and moisture building up inside the fenders in most cases. Meaning, the vehicle isn't washed properly.

BTW, i still drive our Hiace GL Grandia around town or on long trips from time to time. No issues with me on driving it around except that it won't fit in some building parking places.

[IMm29]

^I'm willing to bet those are the first gen or surplus Starexes from the late 1990s. Hyundai has long corrected those issues.

How much? Hehehe!

We had this problem with our 2 Gen 1 Starexes. Though they were slow rides, they were comfy. Re rust, I think Hyundai had inserted something in the fenders for local Korea purposes. Eventually, by Gen 2 and 3, these were no longer present.

[ronw123w124]

How about the FC, durabilty and maintenance of both van?

Sa FC, di ako sure sa SG, since I drove it only a couple of times pero yung sa GS siguro average ko is mga 7-8km/ liter sa city driving. In terms of durability, yung GS ko di pa naman pumapalya pero yung SG ang alam ko sira yung immobilizer nun, wala pang stock yung parts so waiting ngayon pero nagawan naman ng paraan na ma-disable yun so nagagamit pa rin. Sa maintenance naman mahirap I-compare kasi the SG is casa maintained while the GS is only maintained by our mechanics pero mura ang parts ng GS as long as you know where to get it.

[IMm29]

Sa maintenance naman mahirap I-compare kasi the SG is casa maintained while the GS is only maintained by our mechanics pero mura ang parts ng GS as long as you know where to get it.

Out of curiosity, why not at the casa, sir? Pano warranty mo?

[ronw123w124]

My GS was bought at Pitstop more than 3 years ago so lapse na rin yung warranty, I only had it serviced sa kanila at 1k and 5k pms, it only has 10k sa ngayon, our other GS naman was bought from a private importer kaya walang warranty pero nakaka 25k na ang takbo nun after almost 3 years. I don't really trust casa people, I avoid them whenever I can. Mas gusto ko yung nakikita ko ang ginagawa sa kotse.

Bro ko kase is one of those fixated people na pag hindi casa di tama ang
gawa. That's why the SG is casa maintained.

[IMm29]

My GS was bought at Pitstop more than 3 years ago so lapse na rin yung warranty, I only had it serviced sa kanila at 1k and 5k pms, it only has 10k sa ngayon, our other GS naman was bought from a private importer kaya walang warranty pero nakaka 25k na ang takbo nun after almost 3 years. I don't really trust casa people, I avoid them whenever I can. Mas gusto ko yung nakikita ko ang ginagawa sa kotse.

Bro ko kase is one of those fixated people na pag hindi casa di tama ang
gawa. That's why the SG is casa maintained.

How time flies. It's been over 3 years na pala. I seem to recall having read some of your posts here and at THP when you were deciding on the GS. That's if my memory serves me right.

I'm likewise not a fan of casas. For the same time and less expense I can get the service done by my suking talyer c/o my suking mekaniko, na may kasamang kwento at recommendation pa. Anyhow, sorry for the Ot.

[jrn29]

sir dito kasi sa province may nakikita ako starex na may kalawang na..toyota bihira,ang honda kalawagin din..kaya wait nalang natin after 15-20years

sir taga province din ako :sweat:

sa luob ng 9 years ang adventure ko kinalawang din ang body... di ko na malayan kasi tago ang kalawang sa Fender. 2002 model,
ganun din sa mga ka kakilala ko kinalawang din 2001 SS naman sila,. kya sir lahat ng sasakyan kinakalawang talaga ang body kung hindi maalagaan, at hindi talaga ma iiwasan

oT na po heheheh


may mga starex ako nakikita.. matino pa naman yung mga unang model..
kadalasan ko lang nakikita na gulpi yung mga letter B ang plate number..mga galing ata sa Korea yun. peru yung classmate ko 2nd hand nabili from korea . matinong matino pa naman

[venrich]

SG ang choice ko dito and my dad, though 3 vehicles namin ay toyota, mas type lang namin ang SG or nagiging toyota fan na kami. I hope not.

pero ang choice ng ermat ko ay GS, sa tingin daw niya mas safe, kasi hindi flat nose unlike the SG. minsan(or madalas) kasi siya ang nagiging family driver namin.hehehe

kung bibili kame nagyon ng van, malamang GS, kasi mas madalas mag-drive si ermat, siya ang masusunod.

[vinj]

How much? Hehehe!

We had this problem with our 2 Gen 1 Starexes. Though they were slow rides, they were comfy. Re rust, I think Hyundai had inserted something in the fenders for local Korea purposes. Eventually, by Gen 2 and 3, these were no longer present.

Milk Tea... para sosy. Hehehehe

Yep, the first Starex models had foam or insulation inside the fenders which absorbed moisture. Hence the kalawang.

[GTi]

Regarding rust, I suppose cars in the colder provinces are more prone to it due to the moister environment. Especially if the car is parked outside. My uncle's old '94 Lancer was rusted heavily in various parts. In fact the trunk already had a hole on it due to rust. He lives in Baguio and there is no enclosed garage, so the car is exposed to the dew daily. Now that is already a Japanese car. I'm sure with a properly rustproofed car, it would be rust free for decades with regular cleaning and proper protection.

Between the two I'd take the GS. Safety wise, there is the presence of a hood. At least it is the engine shielding you, and not like the SG where it is you shielding the engine. Comfort wise naman... Ever since the Starex started competing with the Hiace, it has always won in the comfort department, and the Hiace was always known for being "matagtag". Old school leaf spring rear suspension in the Hiace versus the Starex's multilink proves this. Performance wise, 174hp and 402Nm versus 102hp and 260Nm... In terms of fuel efficiency, I believe the Hiace wins due to the weaker engine. It does not have the capability to go too fast and so does not consume much fuel. But then it has adequate consistent low end torque over a wide powerband so that it does not run out of steam in low speeds, which results in better gas mileage. The Starex has the capability to go faster, hence greater ability to consume fuel. If the Starex is driven at the same pace as the Hiace, it should do better.

[IMm29]

Milk Tea... para sosy. Hehehehe

Yep, the first Starex models had foam or insulation inside the fenders which absorbed moisture. Hence the kalawang.

Sowzy! Hahaha!

Yun, insulation. Pero corrected by the Millenium edition ata.

[Starex_Gold]

sir dito kasi sa province may nakikita ako starex na may kalawang na..toyota bihira,ang honda kalawagin din..kaya wait nalang natin after 15-20years

Kinakalawang na rin mga utak nung may ari at mga nag iisip ng ganyan.

2012 na.

Nasa pag-aalaga lang yan. Dati meron kami 2000 model na Starex. 7 years sa amin, 175K odo. Casa maintained since 1000km PMS.

Nung ibebenta na, hindi maniwala yung buyer na ganun kataas ang mileage, parang bago parin daw tumakbo. Alaga eh.

;)