Good Looks or Engine Reliabilty?

[Batang Regla]

Hi

Pag bumibili kayo ng car ano priority nyo?

Kasi dami magaganda kotse ngayon. Sa first year dami bibili pero after 5 years konti na lang sa kalsada. Case in point: Tucson first generation.

Car companies invest million dollars sa design pero di ba mas important ang makina?

Kasi bihira naman kotse reliable engine at maganda looks. Civic, Jazz, City and Lancer lang naiisip ko.

Toyota sayang nawala na quality sa engine. Jurassic na nga itsura puro problem pa sa makina.

Mazda 3 ok looks pero engine umuubo sa bagal.

Im excited sa new ford fiesta. I hope quality pa rin engine after 5 years. Para may kalaban na jazz para wala ng price increase na paborito gawin ng honda.

[indiej]

Car companies invest million dollars sa design pero di ba mas important ang makina?

do you mean their investment on the exterior design is more than for their engine?

i see the frustration on the mazda3 1.6L. speed is relative, but relative to other cars at the stoplight, you've noticed its shortcomings. you get a heavy car but tougher metal.

have a lot of gen1 tucsons broken down?

honda has established its brand and that gives it some quirks in pricing and other aspects

[ghosthunter]

Hi

Pag bumibili kayo ng car ano priority nyo?

Kasi dami magaganda kotse ngayon. Sa first year dami bibili pero after 5 years konti na lang sa kalsada. Case in point: Tucson first generation.

Car companies invest million dollars sa design pero di ba mas important ang makina?

Kasi bihira naman kotse reliable engine at maganda looks. Civic, Jazz, City and Lancer lang naiisip ko.

Toyota sayang nawala na quality sa engine. Jurassic na nga itsura puro problem pa sa makina.

Mazda 3 ok looks pero engine umuubo sa bagal.

Im excited sa new ford fiesta. I hope quality pa rin engine after 5 years. Para may kalaban na jazz para wala ng price increase na paborito gawin ng honda.

Often times the problem is not the car manufacturer but the market where the car is sold in.

Example: Mazda3

The locally available Mazda3 comes in two variants, 1.6L and 2.0L, both automatic. In other countries, there are manual versions as well as a 2.3L turbo variant.

So definitely this car is not slow. It is just that our local market tends to prefer automatic and more fuel efficient cars over performance.

[niky]

Our market demands small engines for fuel efficiency, and automatics for convenience. The two don't mix. The Mazda3 1.6 is not a gas-guzzling engine per se... but it's in a heavy car mated to an automatic transmission. Just ask owners of automatic-equipped Honda Jazzes and Hyundai i10s how that's going for them. I know guys with these cars who get excellent highway economy compared to older cars... but in traffic, weight and transmission play a big role in economy.

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How do you define engine reliability? How do you say one engine is more reliable than others? How can you say a Hyundai's engine reliability is bad unless you do a survey of owners across all makes and get actual numbers as to how long their engines last and how good or bad reliability is?

Because I know people who have 150-200k on their Hyundais with no problem. (Hey... one guy here even had 300k on his Matrix... got a smoke belching problem... but only after the car got "Ondoy'd"). I also know people who have 200k on their Japanese cars with no problems.

Getting 200-300k kilometers out of any new engine is possible with the proper maintenance. Given that many people skip and forget proper maintenance after 100k kilometers, and that cars get sold before then, it's hard to pinpoint which cars are breaking down early due to negligence or due to design flaws.

[Batang Regla]

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For me definition ng engine reliabilty kung makikita mo pa sa kalsada after bumenta ng madami sa first year.

Yung example ko mga cars ang price range 1.5 million below. Middle-class car.

[dr. d]

to me, price is number one. function is a close second. creature space is a near third. and how the car looks is a very far fourth.

[voltscastillo]

build quality and image kasi are what wins it for me... 3rd lang talaga cost kasi pag bibili ako kotse mapa 2nd hand man or b/n i see to it na may sosobra sa budget, mahirap din kasi yung pirming saktuhan lang or may utang pa.

[tsupermario]

engine reliability over looks... saves you lots of hassle and repair time

[p_borj]

build quality of engine syempre.

pero naiisip ko, nasa maintenance talaga iyan eh.

[jimnyeatworld]

depende yan talaga sa pagkatao mo, r u platonic?

[Chito]

Yung Mazda 3 ko 5 years na this december. Kailangan mo lang bumwelo kapag mag oovertake ka pero sa highway lumalaban (Maximum speed I attained was 160 kph) naman sa iba. Just recently changed the fuel from shell unleaded to petron xcs gas consumption went down (or up?) from 7.5 km/l to 9.0 km/l. Regarding the looks mas gusto ko pa din tignan kesa altis and civic. Except for the usual pms ang napalitan palang eh brake pads sa likod tsaka shocks sa harap.

[ghosthunter]

depende yan talaga sa pagkatao mo, r u platonic?

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[p_borj]

Yung Mazda 3 ko 5 years na this december. Kailangan mo lang bumwelo kapag mag oovertake ka pero sa highway lumalaban (Maximum speed I attained was 160 kph) naman sa iba. Just recently changed the fuel from shell unleaded to petron xcs gas consumption went down (or up?) from 7.5 km/l to 9.0 km/l. Regarding the looks mas gusto ko pa din tignan kesa altis and civic. Except for the usual pms ang napalitan palang eh brake pads sa likod tsaka shocks sa harap.

+1 on this. sa looks kahit yung mga 2005 models hindi pa rin pahuhuli sa sa mga bagong modelo ng Altis atbp. pati yung pinsan ng MZ3 yung Focus, hindi pa rin pahuhuli sa design.

[GTi]

I'd definitely pick engine reliability over looks. The engine directly affects how you feel about your car. The exterior is for others to look only. You don't spend hours staring at your car, do you? Nor do you sit outside the car. For me, engine performance and reliability comes first, followed by a safe and sturdy body structure, then a nice looking and comfortable interior, after which comes external looks.

[red07]

Well, if you choose looks, over reliability, you'll have plenty of time appreciating the beauty of the car

[sgt_taga]

why pick one when you can now have both? nowadays, cars are good looking with a great engine under their hoods. so i'd go for both, or at least the best combi i can afford.

[krinkx]

no matter what we want in terms of looks... or even performance... it will always be a compromise... i have yet to see a car buyer na na-meet ang requirements niya sa oto in all aspects 100%... nor have i seen anyone who will overlook everything relating to reliability just because of the looks, or overlook the car's form and only focus on the makina...

actually, more than engine reliability and looks, functionality and utility ang unang tinitignan ng ibang car buyers... gaya ko... hehe

when i and my wife bought our first brand new car, we first asked what our requirements are... nung may list na kami ng mga kotse na nakameet ng requirements namin, bago lang kami tumingin sa looks, after the looks, vinavalidate namin sa budget kung kaya namin... kung hindi naman kaya, go to the next car in the list...

other people's ways maybe different though...

[GTi]

Ah yes, cars like the Hyundai Santa Fe 2.2ReVGT comes to mind. Mind boggling performance with the potential to easily unlock even more, great fuel economy to go with the excellent performance, comfortable ride with sharp handling, and the extra benefits of higher ground clearance and bigger space and seating capacity. Along with reasonable pricing, what else can one ask for?

[renzo_d10]

Aanhin mo ang looks kung hindi tumatakbo or puro tirik ang kotse mo ? :hysterical:

So engine reliability for me.

[krinkx]

Ah yes, cars like the Hyundai Santa Fe 2.2ReVGT comes to mind. Mind boggling performance with the potential to easily unlock even more, great fuel economy to go with the excellent performance, comfortable ride with sharp handling, and the extra benefits of higher ground clearance and bigger space and seating capacity. Along with reasonable pricing, what else can one ask for?

a santa fe that you can drive ANYWHERE!!!! hehehehehe...