Family Car around 1M to 1.2M

**sirkosero** · November 9th, 2018 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by bochokoks123

We are now more inclined to buy Innova. Now the question is sulit na ba yung J or worth naman yung around 100K difference sa E. Any thoughts?

Sulit and practical ang J... Kung manual variant talaga ang hanap mo.

The difference of J sa E variant are mags, foglamps and extra 2 speakers. The rest pareho lang lahat. Would have gotten a J kaso matic daw gusto ni misis

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**sirkosero** · November 9th, 2018 08:39 AM

Originally Posted by GTi

Upto you. If you are penny pinching, then the J will do. If you don't mind splurging, then go for the E. Though the differences are admittedly unneccesary.

If money is not a concern though, I would spring for the E AT variant. I recall reading in an article somewhere that the 5MT is not well mated to the engine, unlike the 6AT.

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Sa top gear yan... Too much engine power for a 5 speed. Kaya mas malakas sa fuel.

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**dr. d** · November 9th, 2018 08:48 AM

i have yet to hear an owner complain that their innova is over-powered.

**sirkosero** · November 9th, 2018 08:57 AM

Methinks its for the newer 2.8 liter engine that is a powerful

The 2.5 liter, ive read, is underpowered daw and some are complaining. Sakto lang naman for me :D

Originally Posted by dr. d

i have yet to hear an owner complain that their innova is over-powered.

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**dr. d** · November 9th, 2018 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by sirkosero

Methinks its for the newer 2.8 liter engine that is a powerful

The 2.5 liter, ive read, is underpowered daw and some are complaining. Sakto lang naman for me :D

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they probably forget they're driving a mpv and not a sporting car.

many years ago, when the mitsu adventure was new.
an auto writer reviewed it.... "it does not perform".
i said to myself, "either you forget what an auv is designed to do, or someone paid you to say something negative about it."
heh heh.

**bochokoks123** · November 9th, 2018 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by sirkosero

Sa top gear yan... Too much engine power for a 5 speed. Kaya mas malakas sa fuel.

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Bale mas magastos pa sa gas yung M/T kesa sa A/T sir?

**Egan101** · November 9th, 2018 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by sirkosero

Sa top gear yan... Too much engine power for a 5 speed. Kaya mas malakas sa fuel.

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Too much power? Are they kidding? The Innova, even with the new 2.8L engine, is not rated over 200hp.

**GTi** · November 9th, 2018 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Too much power? Are they kidding? The Innova, even with the new 2.8L engine, is not rated over 200hp.

The old Montero and Starex both had over 170hp and 5MTs, but there doesn't seem to be any complaints.

I think mismatched would be a more appropriate word. This 5MT was probably originally meant for another engine, the 2GD typically available in other countries, or the old 2KD even. And they just put it in without changing the gear ratios to suit this engine.

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**benchph1** · November 9th, 2018 11:23 AM

I have driven a 2.5 A/T Innova before. It was sprightly. Masigla siya. Although we were only two persons on board. Not sure what would it be if it were a whole caboodle.

Toyota’s move to use a 2.8 engine in the current innova was unusual. The reason according to a Toyota PH executive is because we like to carry the whole family during our trips. Well he also said that the engine is “detuned” (so it won’t overpower its bigger brother, the fortuner)

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**dr. d** · November 9th, 2018 11:33 AM

in the highway, the old 2.5 AT had a lower rpm at constant 80 kph, than the MT version.
but in the city, sa MT nako. the AT has a higher shifting rpm compared to it.

in my combined driving, the AT gives me at most, 9-9.5 km/li, while the MT gives me at least 11 km/li.