Economical compact car, A/T, which one

[ghosthunter]

I'd recommend the Altis.

The newer 1ZR-FE engine is actually economical and isn't prone to the sludge issues you fear with the 9th gen (ZZ engine). I can only speak from experience with its bigger brother, the 3ZR-FE, which hasn't had any oil-related issues even though I only change oil every 10,000 KM.

The 1.6 Altis is also known to be fuel-efficient, despite its rather old 4-speed slushbox. It's about as good as other automatic subcompacts (~9 km/L in regular city traffic) but has more low-end torque so it putters about without any hesitation. It's also very stable on the highway, and the comfortable ride means long drives won't be as stressful as in other cars.

The shortcomings of the Altis (less-than-stellar space, feather-light steering, uninspiring handling) don't seem to be of primary concern for you or your wife so I really think it fits your needs pretty well. Whether you get the 1.6 G or the more loaded 1.6 V, the pricing seems reasonable given the features of the car.

The Toyota Corolla Altis 1.6L is a good car. It has dependability, good fuel economy figures, reasonable price, and relatively comfortable cabin. But driving it is not inspiring nor involving. Honestly, the car feels "dead" to drive. A simple tool to get from A to B.

For the same price range, there are other cars that can be a better choice.

[vefyjeph]

I am currently driving Elantra 1.6 AT. I think around 11-13km/L nakukuha ko. 80% highway / 20% city. I am not sure how much gas nauubos sa parking. hehehe. Most of the time weekend ginagamit. Maybe it would improve kung lighter foot ako from stop. Nasanay kasi from Honda before na mas madiin dapat tapak sa gas.
I think Altis, Lancer, Focus and Civic would be good choices as well. Nilagay ko ata lahat. Hehehe.

[Bogeyman]

I am currently driving Elantra 1.6 AT. I think around 11-13km/L nakukuha ko. 80% highway / 20% city. I am not sure how much gas nauubos sa parking. hehehe. Most of the time weekend ginagamit. Maybe it would improve kung lighter foot ako from stop. Nasanay kasi from Honda before na mas madiin dapat tapak sa gas.

11-13km/L from a 1.6 AT? Di na rin masama. The extra gears come into play. :thumbup:

Pero this is mostly weekend driving kasi. It might significantly go down kung daily weekday driving na, tapos rush hour conditions pa.

[meledson]

Mukang di kaya ng budget pag compact. Will go sub-compact. Malmang another 'yota, a vios 1.3 E A/T.

May not have to sell my Avanza after all. :D.

[joemarski]

huwag mo na sell vanzy mo sir mel. sayang naman, alagang- alaga mo eh.
for me kasi, parang it's hard to let go of something na inalagaan at napakinabangan
ng matagal na panahon...
agree rin ako sa idea mong another toyota kung sakali.
at least iisa lang ang pupuntahang casa, talyer, or spare parts shop.
good luck sir!

[rmolivar]

If I understand it right, daily drive ni TS is northbound pag papasok, then southbound pauwi, which means rush hour both ways whether on SLEX, C5 or EDSA. Tapos malabo pa siyang mag-Skyway due to added toll costs.

Just curious if the Elantra's 6-speed tranny can make a difference in such highway traffic conditions that already resemble city driving (frequent stop-and-go, idling, etc.). Kung highway driving nang weekend, baka pwede pa.

I have the same daily route (Sta. Rosa-Ortigas-Sta. Rosa) via c5 and get roughly 11km/l in my 1.8 elantra (4 passengers, including driver) .

[nirvblakr]

Yung VIOS namin na 1.5G AT 10-11kms/L. 60% city and 40% highway. Pag yung yaya nagdadala 8-9kms/L.

[gearhead000]

Pa-OT lang: bakit kaya yung mga Toyota A/T 4-speed lang, samantalang yung M/T nga ng Altis eh 6-speed na? Kahit man lang sana 5-speed A/T. Meron bang limitation/restriction bakit 4-speed lang sya? TIA.

[renzo_d10]

Subcompact? Jazz or City. [Kahit I own a Vios MT right now]

Tipid rin ng City. The MID registers 9km/L kahit stuck in traffic. Sa highway, upak mode using the City, I still managed to get 13km/L. 1.5E pa yan. What more yung 1.3L

Mas bagay pa kay wifey yung Hondas. And honestly, it looks more upscale than my Vios he he

Though my car is really efficient when driven properly. Mas exciting pa rin i-drive yung City IMO especially the Jazz

[meledson]

Subcompact? Jazz or City. [Kahit I own a Vios MT right now]

Tipid rin ng City. The MID registers 9km/L kahit stuck in traffic. Sa highway, upak mode using the City, I still managed to get 13km/L. 1.5E pa yan. What more yung 1.3L

Mas bagay pa kay wifey yung Hondas. And honestly, it looks more upscale than my Vios he he

Though my car is really efficient when driven properly. Mas exciting pa rin i-drive yung City IMO especially the Jazz

Kung Jazz, mag Lancer EX na lang. :D

Sa porma, panalo ang City kaysa sa Vios. Impression ko kasi ay mas matipid ang Vios, kaya Vios.

[BratPAQ]

kung di sana malayo at matrapik ang route ni wifey mas bagay sa kanya SUV.

[meledson]

I will need additional parking space. Buti na lang puwede pa sa lot ng bahay.

Gusto talaga ni Mrs i-benta avanza ko. .

Layo pala ng presyo ng Vios at Mirage. Type nya ang Mirage.

[_Qwerty_]

bakit di na lang avanza matic

[joemarski]

sir mel... ganda ng mirage

[shadow3616931]

I will need additional parking space. Buti na lang puwede pa sa lot ng bahay.

Gusto talaga ni Mrs i-benta avanza ko. .

Layo pala ng presyo ng Vios at Mirage. Type nya ang Mirage.

Yun naman pala type nya eh, go for mirage its the best deal in town

[TheMikProject]

Iyan nga ang route.

Any issues on the elantra?

Elantra 1.6AT owner here. Sir, if you are still interested in the Elantra, I'd tell you wala naman siyang major issues for the past 1 year na ginagamit ko siya. In fact aside from regular maintenance, problem ko lang usually is the occasional flat tire. May isa lang akong issue na napansin, and I don't know if this would bother you. Sometimes, when you go over large humps at above average speed, may "thud" siya coming from the suspension, na parang hindi agad nag-react yung suspension and it stays in the air for a while. But I guess this is normal lang naman because you shouldn't go over humps at ridiculous speeds anyways. )

Other than that, I think you'd be happy with the Elantra. I get 7.5-10km/L at bumper to bumper traffic everyday, and it never fails to put a smile on my face every time I drive it.

As for the sub-compact segment, I'd pick the Celerio 1.0 or the Mirage 1.2 for fuel efficiency. Some say these cars could get 10-13km/L pure city driving. But it'd be best if the owners of these cars answer this. )

[meledson]

Hindi na pala sa Ortigas. sa may UN - Taft area na siya mag office.

makapunta nga sa Mitsu sta rosa mamaya. hehehehe

[tool_46n2]

I think the Mirage is smaller than a subcompact and is significantly smaller than a Vios, hence the price.

The Civic 1.8S and Altis 1.6 AT are good choices actually. I don't know the numbers, but I think 1.6L will be be more economical in fuel and cost of ownership will be much less since it is a Toyota. The Civic just has too much features that your wife may not interested in (5 speed manual with paddle shifters, larger 1.8 engine, spaceship-like dashboard) and both cars should have roughly the same interior space.

And as mentioned earlier, the current gen Altis is has a different engine from the previous generation.

I'm voting the Altis for this.

[meledson]

Bank loan approved. Paid reservation for 'matic GLS. Next month pa daw ang next delivery. sana makakuha kami.

OK na si Mrs sa GLX, priority nya kasi ay FC dahil malayo at sa manila siya kadalasan. Sabi ko need nya ang on-board GPS. nakakarating naman sa pupuntahan, long cut lang nga.