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    We have a 2007 Avanza J and a 2011 Innova G na nabili Feb this year. All are Gasoline fed and manuals.

    Wifey planning to sell the avanza and gut a new A/T car. I am thinking of at least a compact - Altis, Civic, Lancer, or ???.

    The Avanza is now to small so it is now redundant bec. we have the Innova.

    I think we will go with the Civic. Had a bad sludge experience with the 9'th gen, altis a/t. My brother has a Lancer MX.

    Daily driven Sta.Rosa <--> Ortigas. which compact A/T has the best FC? maybe no sub-compat bec she is now an executive.

    Any recommendations?

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    How about the Lancer EX 1.6 MX?

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    she is now executive. for me, bagay na bagay ang pearl white na altis and civic IMO

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    Lancer ex is nice. is it 4 or 5 speed a/t?

    White pearl is nice (Pearl white nga pla ang innova namin). maybe she will go for a red one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meledson View Post
    Lancer ex is nice. is it 4 or 5 speed a/t?

    White pearl is nice (Pearl white nga pla ang innova namin). maybe she will go for a red one.
    4 speed A/T ang lancer

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    I'd recommend the Altis.

    The newer 1ZR-FE engine is actually economical and isn't prone to the sludge issues you fear with the 9th gen (ZZ engine). I can only speak from experience with its bigger brother, the 3ZR-FE, which hasn't had any oil-related issues even though I only change oil every 10,000 KM.

    The 1.6 Altis is also known to be fuel-efficient, despite its rather old 4-speed slushbox. It's about as good as other automatic subcompacts (~9 km/L in regular city traffic) but has more low-end torque so it putters about without any hesitation. It's also very stable on the highway, and the comfortable ride means long drives won't be as stressful as in other cars.

    The shortcomings of the Altis (less-than-stellar space, feather-light steering, uninspiring handling) don't seem to be of primary concern for you or your wife so I really think it fits your needs pretty well. Whether you get the 1.6 G or the more loaded 1.6 V, the pricing seems reasonable given the features of the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meledson View Post
    We have a 2007 Avanza J and a 2011 Innova G na nabili Feb this year. All are Gasoline fed and manuals.

    Wifey planning to sell the avanza and gut a new A/T car. I am thinking of at least a compact - Altis, Civic, Lancer, or ???.

    The Avanza is now to small so it is now redundant bec. we have the Innova.

    I think we will go with the Civic. Had a bad sludge experience with the 9'th gen, altis a/t. My brother has a Lancer MX.

    Daily driven Sta.Rosa <--> Ortigas. which compact A/T has the best FC? maybe no sub-compat bec she is now an executive.

    Any recommendations?
    Wow~ Santa Rosa <-> Ortigas! Layo ah! So SLEX/Skyway araw araw? If so Elantra nalang bro. Higher horsepower and 6 speed transmission gives it an edge in highway gas mileage. White Elantra with 17" rims for the win!

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    A look at the "power-to-weight ratio" may perhaps offer some clue. Toyota sedans are generally known for being "economical" compared to the competition.

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    have been doing sta rosa <--> ortigas daily dati for almost 3 years. every 2 months (5000 km) ang PM ng avanza dati. 500 km + per week. 1 full tank per week.

    malagas sa gas ang innova. now looking for a trifty compact sedan. I will now use the innova pag may bago na. less than 20km oneway bahay - office.

    sa mahal ng toll, no skyway malamang..

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    The Elantra might be the ticket. Light, good gearing, good engine... Only thing is the lack of sound insulation compared to the likes of the Civic or the Focus.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Executive = Mercedes Benz C-Class ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    The Elantra might be the ticket. Light, good gearing, good engine... Only thing is the lack of sound insulation compared to the likes of the Civic or the Focus.
    galing naman sya sa avanza eh.. so i think tolerable sa kanya yan cabin noise....

    kung 2 lang kayo sakay tapos innova gamit mo.. hindi practical yan.. kasi you will be hauling that big ass all the way to ortigas.. kung madami ka sakay ok lang.. pero kung pampasok lang ok na sedan..

    kung 6 speed ang elantra ok yan sa hiway.. mas matipid plus hindi pwersado yung makina sa acceleration kasi mas madaming gears...

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    If I understand it right, daily drive ni TS is northbound pag papasok, then southbound pauwi, which means rush hour both ways whether on SLEX, C5 or EDSA. Tapos malabo pa siyang mag-Skyway due to added toll costs.

    Just curious if the Elantra's 6-speed tranny can make a difference in such highway traffic conditions that already resemble city driving (frequent stop-and-go, idling, etc.). Kung highway driving nang weekend, baka pwede pa.

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    How about those older Focus TDCi 6PS hatchbacks/sedans? There maybe a few select Ford dealers who still offer them at a discount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    galing naman sya sa avanza eh.. so i think tolerable sa kanya yan cabin noise....

    kung 2 lang kayo sakay tapos innova gamit mo.. hindi practical yan.. kasi you will be hauling that big ass all the way to ortigas.. kung madami ka sakay ok lang.. pero kung pampasok lang ok na sedan..

    kung 6 speed ang elantra ok yan sa hiway.. mas matipid plus hindi pwersado yung makina sa acceleration kasi mas madaming gears...

    Wifey drives the innova g. I use the avanza.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bogeyman View Post
    If I understand it right, daily drive ni TS is northbound pag papasok, then southbound pauwi, which means rush hour both ways whether on SLEX, C5 or EDSA. Tapos malabo pa siyang mag-Skyway due to added toll costs.

    Just curious if the Elantra's 6-speed tranny can make a difference in such highway traffic conditions that already resemble city driving (frequent stop-and-go, idling, etc.). Kung highway driving nang weekend, baka pwede pa.

    Iyan nga ang route.

    Any issues on the elantra?

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    would you be innerested in a diesel innova? it's thriftier on fuel than your gas innova.
    i have two innovas. it beats deciding what to drive..

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    eto o, accent hatchback diesel na automatic

    Hyundai Philippines previews the Accent Hatchback - Auto News

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    would you be innerested in a diesel innova? it's thriftier on fuel than your gas innova.
    i have two innovas. it beats deciding what to drive..
    Mas mura nga ang diesel kaysa sa gas tapos mas maganda ang FC. kaso mas mahal ang diesel na makina at mas mataas ang maintenance. parang na balance lang.

    The way, the way my wife parks, di kakasya ang 2 na innova. hehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojoR View Post
    eto o, accent hatchback diesel na automatic

    Hyundai Philippines previews the Accent Hatchback - Auto News
    Puwede, although, medyo na nakakakaba kung isa sa mga first owners, Hindi pa tested locally tulad ng Lancer, Civic, o Altis.

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