The deciding factor: Why I chose the Fortuner over the Montero sport

[oliver1013]

my owm experience, 1st i wanted a montero, but mit.casa sucks, why?? been to 3, otis, MOA and lipa, all of them says its PILA, but if in house financing I can get it in a week. Ask them interest rate for 4yrs. diyos ko po 43% when my bank offer (BPI) 23% only. plus higher chattel fee, 40T for 1.5M, mine ( I decided to get 09 everest) 21T only. so say ko ayaw ko naman na harap harapan ako ninanakawan.
Then I went to toyota otis, same result, in house financing, 1 week I can get a fortuner. But anyway toyota brand ayaw ko na, 1999 I bought a revo, may factory deffect panay repair ayaw nila palitan natulo ang windshield. In the end sa inis ko benta ko na lang. after 8 yrs. I bought a Avanza thinking baka nagbago na. Toyota otis sucks, grabe, I have some rubber moulding replace, pero you know what, sa invoice replace, but when I went home hindi pa pala. pinag interesan na. When I call, SA told me baka daw nalimutan palitan.
Never did I have this kind of problem with Honda, 2006, hotcake honda civic, never did my agent ask for anything just to speed up the release of my civic.
Lucky for me after less than a week I got my 1.8S a/t civic aug. 2006.
Now, my decision to buy a new car will always be after sales service.
With my new ride ford everest, grabe champion ang service.
I have a little problem on my stereo, ford send the technician dito mismo sa bahay ko. Lucena city, he travel all the way from manila.

With all due respect bossing, tingin ko tyempo tyempo lang yan, lahat ng sasakyan at kahit anong konektado sa sasakyan ata nakita ko ng nireklamo dito sa tsikot from lemon units, crazy ass agents, highway robbery casas even noisy diesel engines of neighbors In the end madami talagang haters and madami parin fanbois, kaya masaya ang forum ng tsikot

[Gerbo]

Aftersales service is largely dealer-dependent.

And yes, it can turn you away at times from the brand even if you like the vehicle you are considering to purchase.

[agent_ysann]

He told me that Mitsubishi plants in Thailand were forced shut last summer that’s why they are having a hard time with delivery commitments nationwide. (What??!) He continues with “ok lang yan seer, wag ka mag-alala. ililipat naman daw ng mitsu sa pilipinas ang planta ng montero e…”.

is this true?? i'm still doubtful about this information... pero if it is, then there is a chance para maayos ang quality issue ng Montero Sport (i have read the thread about the problems on MS units)... makakatulong din ito para bumaba (kahit konti) yung price IF EVER man d2 sa Pinas ang assembly plant... baka kasi mapahiya ako kay mama kung nirekomenda ko sa kanya ito, bawiin pa sakin yung Fortuner...

[oliver1013]

Ano ba ang issue ng montero? yung bayaw ko wala naman reklamo sa unit niya..tuwing nagkikita kami puro papuri sa auto niya

[marktriton]

Ano ba ang issue ng montero? yung bayaw ko wala naman reklamo sa unit niya..tuwing nagkikita kami puro papuri sa auto niya

yun kapitbahay namen msaya siya sa MS AT 3.2 niya. sabi niya ok naman daw, kaya yun daw pinili niya eh yun bayaw niya meron Fort, ayaw niya ng ride at itsura, mabuwal sa super highway.

pag umaga naririnig ko yun engine niya maingay yun MS, yun Fort smooth ang tunog, yun MS madami minor problems gaya ng maingay na brake pad, yun steering buttons ayaw gumana, yun alarm nagloloko, yun transmission meron daw drag, yun MS meron din problem sa steering column daw.

yun FORT naman small percentage lang makakuha ka DAW ng LEmon pag dating sa d4d, sabi ko hindi na , khit maingay yun engine ng MS dun na lang ako kesa lagi akong nasa CASA at di alam ng mekaniko kung anu gagawin sa
auto mo,

[marktriton]

Well for me it's a wrong choice... Besides the not so good looks, the Fortuner at least on our experience is somewhat a lemony car (3V model). If we had to choose all over again, sana we picked a Montero, Santa Fe or Xtrail. Nakakasuya na din kasi tingnan sa kalsada parang pang masa na... ok lang sana yun eh, but again it has some lemony characteristics especially the engine (2 mos. of use nag hard strating na?! WTF! and it's handling sucks imo)
Now everytime I saw a Fortuner on the streets... in the back of my mind I usually say "ewwww..."
and what also keeps my head fuming is the toyota casa keeps on defending the crappy issue saying that our local diesel kasi is low quality etc. OMG... haaay. I our garage, this is the least car I wanted to drive.

kung pipili rin naman ng car eh yun wlang sakit sa ulo na engine kasi yun ang HEART ng auto natin diba, maganda nga porma pero ayaw magstart so nakakahiya naman itulak diba? wag lang sa PANGALAN tumingin kung di sa performance

[marktriton]

Yup the fortuner's acceleration is quicker but when you chance upon a fortuner or Montero at any highway or expressway and want to try each other you guys wont be running below 60kph, in that case pareho na kayo naka bwelo which would be more on the advantage of the MS unless you guys would start on a full stop where the advantage would be on the side of the fortuner.. But i dont need to try it again coz we also have tried both SUV's at SCTEX wherein in the montero won because of its top speed.. Drive Safely

sir jpg111 kaya ba ng strada 3.2 MT tumakbo ng 195km/hr? na try ko pa lang yun 180 to 190km/hr, chansing a LC v8 diesel sa NLEX. nakakahabol ako sa kanya pero sympre pag tumapak pa siya eh mabilis siya kasi 600 NM ata torque niya. pero im happy at that time kasi kala ng drive na yun iiwan niya ako ng malayo, nkabuntot lang ako sa kanya.

[easyman3]

yun kapitbahay namen msaya siya sa MS AT 3.2 niya. sabi niya ok naman daw, kaya yun daw pinili niya eh yun bayaw niya meron Fort, ayaw niya ng ride at itsura, [SIZE=5]mabuwal sa super highway[/SIZE].

pag umaga naririnig ko yun engine niya maingay yun MS, yun Fort smooth ang tunog, yun MS madami minor problems gaya ng maingay na brake pad, yun steering buttons ayaw gumana, yun alarm nagloloko, yun transmission meron daw drag, yun MS meron din problem sa steering column daw.

yun FORT naman small percentage lang makakuha ka DAW ng LEmon pag dating sa d4d, sabi ko hindi na , khit maingay yun engine ng MS dun na lang ako kesa lagi akong nasa CASA at di alam ng mekaniko kung anu gagawin sa
auto mo,

I got this HILUX. He was runnning fast past my monty 3.2. Then i saw this

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[easyman3]

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[Memphis Raines]

I think he got the receiving end of Hydroplaning.

[sag0]

oh wow...

pickups and SUV's aren't really built for racing... that driver might have forgotten he was driving a hilux and not a porsche. :D

[crayz]

http://www.engr.pitt.edu/ssc/hydroplaning.html
According to Smart Motorist, Hydroplaning occurs when water on the roadway accumulates in front of your vehicle's tires faster than the weight of your vehicle can push it out of the way. The water pressure can cause your car to rise up and slide on top of a thin layer of water between your tires and the road. While hydroplaning your vehicle rides on top of the water, like a water skier on a lake. In less than a second, your car can completely lose contact with the road, putting you in immediate danger of sliding out of your lane. This usually happens at higher speeds, over 40 miles per hour. Try to imagine your vehicle traveling at a high rate of speed on a sheet of ice: that image approximates what will happen if you try to brake or steer while hydroplaning.

Pick-up trucks don't get much down force so less Grip, when Hydroplaning occurs it would have terrible results

[noobskie]

Yeah pickups and SUVs aren't meant for fast driving especially on wet roads. It's a disaster waiting to happen.

[easyman3]

http://www.engr.pitt.edu/ssc/hydroplaning.html
According to Smart Motorist, Hydroplaning occurs when water on the roadway accumulates in front of your vehicle's tires faster than the weight of your vehicle can push it out of the way. The water pressure can cause your car to rise up and slide on top of a thin layer of water between your tires and the road. While hydroplaning your vehicle rides on top of the water, like a water skier on a lake. In less than a second, your car can completely lose contact with the road, putting you in immediate danger of sliding out of your lane. This usually happens at higher speeds, over 40 miles per hour. Try to imagine your vehicle traveling at a high rate of speed on a sheet of ice: that image approximates what will happen if you try to brake or steer while hydroplaning.

Pick-up trucks don't get much down force so less Grip, when Hydroplaning occurs it would have terrible results

Look at the lower right of the photo. Where the skid mark is visible....

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[marktriton]

kawawa naman yun driver at kung meron passenger sa loob ng hilux.

IN NURSING SAFETY IS THE PRIORITY. :shark:

[jaejae]

For diesel enthusiasts, music to the ears ang tunog diesel. Di mo maa-appreciate ang diesel pag wala kang alam dito.

i previously thought i was the only one who finds pleasure listening to a diesel engine...

[arbe]

MANILA BULLETIN:

Mitsubishi’s bestseller today is the Montero Sport. If you think you’re spotting a Montero Sport every so often, your eyes are not on a selective-mode. Mitsubishi Motor Philippines Corp. has sold 4,768 units since it was launched here in September 2008. If you buy a Montero Sport today, you’ll have to wait 60 days to get your vehicle; that’s the waiting line that’s been created by the demand for this stylish SUV.
We learned that from Dante Santos, vice president for vehicle sales, who was with the MMPC group of executives who presented the new Mitsubishi Galant to the motoring media last week. Mr. Santos said 700 units of the Montero Sport are sold every month.
Mitsubishi has hit on an ideal mix of style, performance and price -- in other words, as Mitsubishi likes to put it -- value for money. This diesel-powered, seven seater SUV with the sporty styling that matches its performance is priced at a level that makes it stand out from among the many popular SUVs in the market today. The Montero Sport 4x2 variant (2.5-liter automatic) is priced at P1.330-million. In the same price range is the Ford Everest 4x2 (P1.33-million for the manual, and P1.385- million for the automatic).
Incidentally, at the smaller SUV segment, the very popular Honda CRV is now priced at P1.495 for the high-end 2.4-liter gas, automatic, with real time all-wheel drive. But the CRV 2-liter manual manual is only P1.245-million. Another small SUV, the Ford Escape 4x2 gas, automatic is P1-million, and the 4x4 is P1.2-million.
The Montero Sport 4x4 manual variant is priced at P1.47-million. Other SUVs with similar price tags are the Isuzu Altera 4x2 manual at P1.45-million, and the Toyota Fortuner 4x2 2.5-liter diesel at P1.468-million and the Fortuner 4x2 gas 2.7-liter variant at P1.403-million
The top-of-the-line Montero Sport 3.2-liter automatic 4x4 is priced at P1.68-million.
That compares to the Ford Everest 3.0-liter automatic 4x4 at P1.695-million.
It’s not only pricing that pushed the Montero Sport to take the market. It’s also the style and performance backed by the heritage of the Mitsubishi name and the Pajero image. The Pajero, a brand launched in the late eighties, has gathered a strong reputation for reliability and prestige. Its long history with the Paris-Dakar Rally has carved the Pajero name as a tough vehicle. And because it's been around for so long, the Pajero brand has become a symbol of "I have arrived!" That is the image that still comes with the new Montero Sport.
The sales performance of the Montero Sport, boosted by Mitsubishi’s other SUVs (Strada, Outlander and Pajero), has contributed to the automaker’s 25 percent chunk of the light commercial vehicle category (compared to last year’s 19 percent).
During the presentation of the new Mitsubishi Galant, Mr. Masahiko Ueki, MMPC president and CEO, reported the company’s achievements for the first half of this year:
• Mitsubishi sold a total of 10,654 units for the first half of 2009. That translates to a 27 percent growth, compared to last year’s performance.
• It grew in all segments: 19 percent in passenger cars; 28 percent in light commercial vehicles; and 22 percent in the trucks and bus segment.

[Juan591]

Isa lang masasabi ko definitely mas maingay ang MS sa Fortuner proven na yan... Vibrations lang di ko alam...

I don't think na maingay ang MS based from my experience.. actually mas tahimik nga ang 2.5 4D56 compared to the 3.2 4M41.

[auto_fanatic]

Lucky you, 3 new vehicles in such a short span of time. Don't mind all the posts saying the Montero is better or whatnot, just never regret the decision that you made in going with the Fortuner. It's there already, better to enjoy it instead of thinking what may have been if you went the other direction. There's always going to be something newer, better, more powerful than any of these cars in the near future anyway. I'm sure you'd enjoy your 3.0 Fortuner when you get the chance. Goodluck!

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Aside from the Manual Tranny Fort, the Fortuner has a better over-all package accross different trims because all specifications are the same except for the engine and/or the transmission.

If you compare the lowest-end automatic Fortuner with the lowest end automatic transmission Montero Sport, you will notice that the Fortuner has a better over-all package. For one, the Fortuner has auto climate control while the Montero Sport has the manual-rotary controls for its aircon. For the Fortuner, the only difference between the top-end and the lowest-end A/T are th engine and transmission, all the rest are the same. So you do not feel short-changed even if you just get the Fortuner 2.7 VVTi. However, for the Monetro Sport, aside from the engine and transmission, there are other differences in the interior specifications, so parang ang daming binawas from the top-end para maging low-end. Admittedly though, the lowest-end MS with auto tranny is lower-priced compared to the lowest-end Fortuner with auto tranny.

[basti08]

ang pinaka malaking binawas kasi sa Fortuner eh yung Horsepower. 102hp vs 143hp ng MS.

pero btw, parang mas maganda ang whistling sound ng diesel ng Fort kesa sa parang kinakaladkad na tunog ng makina ng MS. the MS' engine sounds lethargic compared to the whistling and smooth gliding sound of the Fort's engine be it 2.5 or 3.0.