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    #21
    dami nyan dito sa shanghai...grabe! Lahat ata dito sa china pirated eh! yung CEO, sikat na sikat yan dito, ginagawa nila pinapalitan yung mga emblems ng BMW X5....tapos solb na! Pati yang Laibao(Leyvao)莱堡 SRV nilalagyan din nila ng honda emblems!!! Pati ALtis hindi pinatawad dito! Tawag dito BYD F3....Altis body na naka 4G18 mitsu engine tapos tailight ng Honda City!!! Lufet!

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    #22
    Our country has its own share of copy cats, so there is nothing new to what the Chinese auto manufacturers are doing, except that they are doing this at a larger scale. But what amazes me is that China now has more than a dozen companies with their own manufacturing capabilities to produce various types of vehicles.

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    #23
    pagkakaalam ko, china was sued by the U.S. fed gov't doon sa WTO dahil dyan sa piracy na yan,that was three mos. ago... baka pati shabu pirated na rin kaya maraming mga drug dependent na nasisira ang ulo,di ba maraming chinese illegals ang nahuhuli dyan sa atin na nagluluto ng shabu?...no offense sa ibang chinese dyan...nahihirapan siguro sila paano alagaan ang bilyong chinese populace nila kaya mostly pirated ang mga products to augment...IMO lang.

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    #24
    wow lupit ah

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    #25
    Malabong makita yung ibang cars na pinost dito..

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    #26
    i think if u market it in china, they will change its name. I read somewhere na ang kia ay binebenta sa china pero iba na brand name.

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    #27
    dami nyan dito sa shanghai...grabe! Lahat ata dito sa china pirated eh! yung CEO, sikat na sikat yan dito, ginagawa nila pinapalitan yung mga emblems ng BMW X5....tapos solb na! Pati yang Laibao(Leyvao)莱堡 SRV nilalagyan din nila ng honda emblems!!! Pati ALtis hindi pinatawad dito! Tawag dito BYD F3....Altis body na naka 4G18 mitsu engine tapos tailight ng Honda City!!! Lufet!
    Holy cr*p! Ang lupit nilang kumopya!!

    Sana gawin nila ito sa Civic FD na JDM un front tpos un back eh un US version ng Civic SI (?) hehehee

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by freespin View Post
    i think if u market it in china, they will change its name. I read somewhere na ang kia ay binebenta sa china pero iba na brand name.
    I've been to a KIA showroom yesterday. Brand name is still the same. Went to check out the new Carens and the upgraded Sorento. Full options ang Sorento dito with 3.8L V6 engine.

    I see more of the CUV than the CEO here in China.

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    #29
    That's what you call R & D. And China is good at it.

    They Recieve and Duplicate, not Research and Development.

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    #30
    Holy Gazooks! :marvin:

    I'm not a big fan of China products (unavoidable really), but I think they could give the Big players a run for their money. Maybe China cars aren't the most technically sophisticated or aesthetically pleasing, but at least they got something right here: take your favorite car body/design, hook up low tech mechanicals (therefore cheaper), give it a shiny paint job and voila! Your most-lusted car look-alike costing hundreds of thousands less than the real thing. Even rodders and tuners go for this strategy with their jap cars mimicking the style and performance of more expensive euro machinery. It's not the real thing but hell the driver feels as if he got one. Don't deny this my enthusiast friends.... :drive1:

    I for one couldn't justify the super over-priced cars locally offered :***: (because of tax they say) with less gizmos and performance as against the same car offered like for say, in the US. Even 2nd hand cars cost a fortune here! If you buy new the cars are way too unaffordable even for someone earning a decent wage. A lot of cars offer all sorts of features that you really don't need. How many times do you use your rear defogger or a super-traction control drivetrain in everyday traffic? Or 8 airbags? How about 17-inch alloy rims? Nice to have frills I may say.

    Now don't get me wrong, I love having gadgets and we may surmise that these save lives and give us creature comforts. Yes they do but my point is, many features offered on cars nowadays add up too much to the sticker price. I'd prefer a bare car unit with the right engine configuration and chassis fundamentals (with airconditioning please) then work my way up from there. China cars offer much less technology that are not so distant from newer high tech. If they can give me an SUV copycat with leaf springs rather than the latest multilink doodads or air suspension for 300k less, that's fine with me. I'll just go for the rebadging at my local auto supply store hehe. If they plunk in a 1.6 litre engine in place of the 2.5 litre unit, then it's still ok with me. At least I still get the look if not the feel of more frivolous machinery.

    I think the China cars will fill a nice niche in the local car scene just like the China bikes did to the two-wheeler community. It opened up a whole new opportunity for more people to taste mobility. Nowadays it's a necessity rather than a luxury. :chopper:

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    #31
    Is it me, or is the name of the hummer look-alike sounds alot like the serial number of a mother board?

    Well, after watching collision tests of various chinese-made, chinese-designed cars...

    I'm not sold. The crumple zone is from the front of the bumper up to the driver's compartment.

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    #32
    CHINA cars: ah, they're nothing but a second rate trying hard COPYCARS!

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    #33
    enyong: you practically have a deathwish if you buy a china car. Just look at the accidents these cars are involved in.

    like for example:


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    #35
    Magaling talaga ang mga chinese sa pag kopya ng mga bagay bagay... The real question is same parin ba ang performance given na cheaper yung materials... yung durability din...

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    #36
    galeng talaga komopya ang mga instik. sa pagkaka-alam ko gumagawa na rin daw sila ng space shuttle

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    #37
    space shuttle??

    amfff..hightech na sobra ha

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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by akal View Post
    galeng talaga komopya ang mga instik. sa pagkaka-alam ko gumagawa na rin daw sila ng space shuttle
    space shuttle!? bilib na ko kung magawa nga nila yun..

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    #39
    oo naman ... kayang-kaya nila gumawa ng space shuttle noh ... sila nga ang nag-imbento ng rocket propulsion eh (aka kwitis!) ... tsaka sa kanila bumibili si Gandalf

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    #40
    Now China is penetrating Pentagon

    China hacked into Pentagon computer network--report

    BEIJING -- China's military successfully hacked into the Pentagon's computer network, raising fears it could disrupt the US defense department's systems, the Financial Times reported Tuesday.

    The Chinese military's cyber attack was carried out in June following months of efforts, the London-based newspaper said, citing unnamed current and former US officials.

    While the Pentagon declined to say who was behind the hacking, which led to the shutdown of a computer system serving the office of Defense Secretary Robert Gates, officials told the paper it was China's People's Liberation Army.

    "The PLA has demonstrated the ability to conduct attacks that disable our system," the paper quoted a former US official as saying.

    One senior US official reportedly said the Pentagon had pinpointed the exact origin of the attack.

    The paper quoted another person familiar with the event as saying there was a "very high level of confidence... trending towards total certainty" that the PLA was responsible.

    The paper said both the US and Chinese militaries were widely assumed to conduct computer espionage on each other.

    "But US officials said the penetration in June raised concerns to a new level because of fears that China had shown it could disrupt systems at critical times," the Financial Times reported.

    A spokesman for the Chinese defense ministry declined to comment on the report when contacted by Agence France-Presse on Tuesday.

    China's foreign ministry also declined to comment immediately, asking for questions to be faxed through.

    Reports of China hacking into German government systems were also raised last week between Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and visiting German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

    German weekly Der Spiegel reported that espionage programs traced to the PLA had been detected in computer systems at Merkel's office, the foreign ministry and other government agencies in Berlin.

    "We in the government took [the reports] as a matter of grave concern," Wen said after meeting Merkel.
    The saying is really true that if you need confidential documents from US ask China

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