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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    the big 3 of nissan are diesels..

    while the big 3 of ford are 2 diesels and a non diesel ecosport.


    Im now thinking nissans sales is a little slow because of sharp pricing from both Ford and Mitsubishi. 100k discount from Nissan just cant match the 200-300k discounts from Ford-Mitsu..

    This is also a reason why Chevy sales is at an all time low.
    I guess if we compare among the top 5 that Nissan is part of we can go segment by segment.

    In the mini/micro car - I don't think they have a contender here. Toyota has Wigo, Kia Picanto, Hyundai Eon, Honda Brio etc.

    Subcompact, the Almera is just beaten as a choice, be it a taxi, personal car (here would be Fiesta and City) or fleet car option. With the entry of Reina, Soluto, along with the #1 pick Vios, it can't compete.

    Compact - I personally own the Sylphy but in the almost 6 years (I think it's 6, maybe 7) it has been in our market, they never introduced any update/change just a price increase. There has been a facelift and a new model launched in other countries and we still retain the old design even now. It can't compete with the other new entrants to the segment.

    SubCompact CUV - Juke is a "niche" car. I wouldn't call it practical though for a small family as space in the back seat it just too small if you are comparing it against the BRV. Coupled with other AUV entrants of similar price point, it gets lost in the crowd as a "practical" option. I am curious if they plan to launch the KICKS here. That looks like a more practical option that will in no way be confusing with the Xtrail like the Rogue or Qashqai (depending on which market has the smaller wheelbase option).

    Compact CUV - Xtrail is losing favor globally, especially in its strongest market the US which is why they lost about 40 or 45% marketshare if I recall the article correctly. I don't think they ever launched the facelifted model here as well. For design, you have a better option Mazda's lineup. I don't think the ASX is a viable alternative for the Xtrail but the HRV and CRV are better contenders. Subaru offers more flex here as well.

    Van - even with it carrying over the previous gen Hi-Ace, the T badge is still king. If you are targetting family vans, Starex is the more immediate next option. For semblance of luxury below 2m, the Carnival is a viable option for the sister stable of Hyundai.

    Pickup - Navara got the #1 spot as the lifestyle pickup of choice if I'm not mistaken but how big a sales leader it is, I don't know the numbers. Performance is still with the Ranger, while for workhorses, you got the Dmax and Hilux as top, since Navara doesnt offer the "bare" single cab and chassis option here.

    As for the PPV, though Terra is spec'd well for the price, as mentioned, the others are pricing it out with better discounts.

    That's my two cents. Still love the Terra though. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    I guess if we compare among the top 5 that Nissan is part of we can go segment by segment.

    In the mini/micro car - I don't think they have a contender here. Toyota has Wigo, Kia Picanto, Hyundai Eon, Honda Brio etc.

    Subcompact, the Almera is just beaten as a choice, be it a taxi, personal car (here would be Fiesta and City) or fleet car option. With the entry of Reina, Soluto, along with the #1 pick Vios, it can't compete.

    Compact - I personally own the Sylphy but in the almost 6 years (I think it's 6, maybe 7) it has been in our market, they never introduced any update/change just a price increase. There has been a facelift and a new model launched in other countries and we still retain the old design even now. It can't compete with the other new entrants to the segment.

    SubCompact CUV - Juke is a "niche" car. I wouldn't call it practical though for a small family as space in the back seat it just too small if you are comparing it against the BRV. Coupled with other AUV entrants of similar price point, it gets lost in the crowd as a "practical" option. I am curious if they plan to launch the KICKS here. That looks like a more practical option that will in no way be confusing with the Xtrail like the Rogue or Qashqai (depending on which market has the smaller wheelbase option).

    Compact CUV - Xtrail is losing favor globally, especially in its strongest market the US which is why they lost about 40 or 45% marketshare if I recall the article correctly. I don't think they ever launched the facelifted model here as well. For design, you have a better option Mazda's lineup. I don't think the ASX is a viable alternative for the Xtrail but the HRV and CRV are better contenders. Subaru offers more flex here as well.

    Van - even with it carrying over the previous gen Hi-Ace, the T badge is still king. If you are targetting family vans, Starex is the more immediate next option. For semblance of luxury below 2m, the Carnival is a viable option for the sister stable of Hyundai.

    Pickup - Navara got the #1 spot as the lifestyle pickup of choice if I'm not mistaken but how big a sales leader it is, I don't know the numbers. Performance is still with the Ranger, while for workhorses, you got the Dmax and Hilux as top, since Navara doesnt offer the "bare" single cab and chassis option here.

    As for the PPV, though Terra is spec'd well for the price, as mentioned, the others are pricing it out with better discounts.

    That's my two cents. Still love the Terra though. =)
    Is ford really getting more acceptance now than nissan? even with the transmission fiasco?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Is ford really getting more acceptance now than nissan? even with the transmission fiasco?
    Well, unlike Ford, you could get their models with AT nowadays right?

    While for Nissan, the more mainstream ones, excluding the Navara and Terra, do have the CVTs which are still recommended "avoid" by most people's posts online. Can't remember if the Juke had a CVT but I think that is the least of its worries

    I think Nissan still has the image as pick for dads/uncles from the 90s/2000s I think. Which is why the "malamig aircon niyan" is the only main mantra that sticks with the badge. haha!

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    The facelifted X-trail has been released here some time ago. A little bit more tech and some mild aesthetic upgrades. The 19" rims on the 4x4 has made the ride terrible though. And still the old 2.5L engine soldiers on for the 4x4.

    I hope the next gen features the turbo VC engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Is ford really getting more acceptance now than nissan? even with the transmission fiasco?
    dami dami ford sa kalye

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    dami dami ford sa kalye
    I've a new American friend and she calls Ford (Found On the Road Dead) She drives a Toyota haha

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    overpriced Isuzu..


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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Is ford really getting more acceptance now than nissan? even with the transmission fiasco?
    Wala na atang DCT ang Ford pati yung bagong Ecosport back to old school torque converter automatic... The Ford pickups always had automatics from the beginning. Mas marami ako naririnig na engine troube sa Ford especially yung mga turboed diesels nila sa Everest and Ranger...

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    The problem with Ford's turbo on the Everest and Ranger is that (on some engine models) when changing oil, new oil should be poured in WITHIN 30 minutes from draining the old oil ... otherwise the turbo will be damaged ... don't know what the engineers were thinking ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    The problem with Ford's turbo on the Everest and Ranger is that (on some engine models) when changing oil, new oil should be poured in WITHIN 30 minutes from draining the old oil ... otherwise the turbo will be damaged ... don't know what the engineers were thinking ...
    Ford just being FORD :P Lot's of quirky designs like the central lock they literally put in the center console :P and not on the driver's side door arm rest with the window controls etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    Ford just being FORD [emoji14] Lot's of quirky designs like the central lock they literally put in the center console [emoji14] and not on the driver's side door arm rest with the window controls etc.
    It's not just Ford. Center-mounted lock switches are meant to share their access w/ the passenger. I'm sure there were times you had to leave the car & had to ask the passenger to lock/unlock. Actually pretty neat.[emoji4]

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    It's not just Ford. Center-mounted lock switches are meant to share their access w/ the passenger. I'm sure there were times you had to leave the car & had to ask the passenger to lock/unlock. Actually pretty neat.[emoji4]

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    Well they can unlock their own doors... Well what if you drive alone? Awkward placing you need to stretch for it VS its just very accessible near you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17 View Post
    Compact CUV - Xtrail is losing favor globally, especially in its strongest market the US which is why they lost about 40 or 45% marketshare if I recall the article correctly. I don't think they ever launched the facelifted model here as well. For design, you have a better option Mazda's lineup. I don't think the ASX is a viable alternative for the Xtrail but the HRV and CRV are better contenders. Subaru offers more flex here as well.
    May 219 – The Best-Selling Vehicles In America – Every Vehicle Ranked | GCBC

    The Nissan Rogue is still selling well in the US despite big drops compared to last year. It's neck to neck with the CR-V in total sales so far this year while the HR-V and CX-5 are waaaaay down the list. The Subaru Outback and Forester also trail the Rogue with total sales of each about half that of the Rogue.

    The CVT issues gave a lot of bad press to the Rogue. But, if you look at the big picture, it's not like there are Rogues broken down all over the place. Some of the Subarus have had CVT issues as well.

    My wife has a 2013 Nissan Rogue. It hasn't been on any recall list and it's CVT has been fine so far (78k miles/126k km). I'll be satisfied if the CVT lasts 200k miles because by that time, it's definitely time to junk it and buy a new car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jun aka Pekto View Post
    May 219 – The Best-Selling Vehicles In America – Every Vehicle Ranked | GCBC

    The Nissan Rogue is still selling well in the US despite big drops compared to last year. It's neck to neck with the CR-V in total sales so far this year while the HR-V and CX-5 are waaaaay down the list. The Subaru Outback and Forester also trail the Rogue with total sales of each about half that of the Rogue.

    The CVT issues gave a lot of bad press to the Rogue. But, if you look at the big picture, it's not like there are Rogues broken down all over the place. Some of the Subarus have had CVT issues as well.

    My wife has a 2013 Nissan Rogue. It hasn't been on any recall list and it's CVT has been fine so far (78k miles/126k km). I'll be satisfied if the CVT lasts 200k miles because by that time, it's definitely time to junk it and buy a new car.
    I've seen a lot of Nissan Rogue when I visited Seattle as well as the Mazda Cx5 and Cx9, Subaru Forester and Outback, Honda Pilot and Acura MDX and RDX. Toyota Highlander is becoming a best seller too. I've seen a few Honda HRV and CRV and to my surprise a significant number of Hyundai Kona on the freeway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lin Dan View Post
    I've seen a lot of Nissan Rogue when I visited Seattle as well as the Mazda Cx5 and Cx9, Subaru Forester and Outback, Honda Pilot and Acura MDX and RDX. Toyota Highlander is becoming a best seller too. I've seen a few Honda HRV and CRV and to my surprise a significant number of Hyundai Kona on the freeway.
    Here in Arizona, Hondas are the overall favorites followed by Toyota and Dodge Rams. Lots of CR-Vs, Odysseys, and Civics. But, I think there are a lot more Camrys than Accords. Lots of Nissans too. But, I think that's because of steep discounts. So many Altimas both new and used. I think people buy them because of low pricing. But, they also don't keep them for a very long time unlike Camrys. I see many Camrys dating back from the 90's still on the streets.
    Last edited by Jun aka Pekto; June 19th, 2019 at 12:48 PM.

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    remember before na inokray ko itsura ng

    vios = angels burger

    avanza = bentelog.

    Nakita ko bagong vios few days ago habang nagdadrive. Grabe lalo pumangit. Ano ba yan bakit nagkaganyan paboring ng paboring toyota. Napapaisip tuloy ako kung kanino ko ihahantulad mukhang sa isaw na ihaw-ihaw nubayan.

    Ang nagustuhan ko eh mukhang umiksi at kumitid. Dati kasi ang haba for a subcompact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    remember before na inokray ko itsura ng

    vios = angels burger

    avanza = bentelog.

    Nakita ko bagong vios few days ago habang nagdadrive. Grabe lalo pumangit. Ano ba yan bakit nagkaganyan paboring ng paboring toyota. Napapaisip tuloy ako kung kanino ko ihahantulad mukhang sa isaw na ihaw-ihaw nubayan.

    Ang nagustuhan ko eh mukhang umiksi at kumitid. Dati kasi ang haba for a subcompact.
    who cares?
    "it'$ hard to argue with $ucce$$."

    postwar VW.
    rootes of UK was asked to evaluate the VW works.
    he said, "...ugly and noisy.. to build it commercially would be a completely un-economic enterprise.."
    well, 60 years later, rootes is no more, while is VW somewhere near the apex of the auto manufacturing industry, built on the success of what is argueably the most-produced automobile ever.
    morale of the story: "it is difficult to second-guess the public's fancy."
    Last edited by dr. d; July 22nd, 2019 at 01:09 AM.

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