Car Sales Data (2018)

[12vdc]

gising na mga car manufacturers, diesel is the future.

Diesel is the present, electric is the futuree

[uls]

gising na mga car manufacturers, diesel is the future.

only in a 3rd world country like PH

[StockEngine]

Diesel is the present, electric is the futuree

hybrid for asean. indonesia and malaysia are setting up battery plants. since walang charging infra hybrid tayo malamang.

[Dr. Strange]

only in a 3rd world country like PH

we all live here bro

[uls]

we all live here bro

ano mali sa sinabi ko?

there are barely any diesel passenger cars in the US

and diesel passenger cars are being phased out in Europe

so what countries on earth will still use diesel passenger cars?

mga 3rd world countries tulad ng Pinas

[ice15]

^I think the correct term is "developing country"

I agree that Diesel has to go someday...

Full electric + hybrid is a good future for the Philippines.

Based on my personal observation... I think tayo na lang and India ang mahilig sa Diesel.

[uls]

3rd world, developing country, banana republic... whatever

it will take tons of political will to make people shift to hybrid or full electric

the govt can heavily tax diesel cars and provide tax incentive/subsidy to hybrid/electric car buyers

if the govt doesn't do anything, people aren't going to shift to hybrid/electric all by themselves

how may priuses have you seen on the road?

[uls]

in theory "diesel has to go someday" sounds nice

implementation is a whole different story

PUJ nga hindi ma-phase out

and we're gonna expect people to stop buying diesel pickups and SUVs in the near future?

yeah right

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it's up to the govt to create a strong disincentive to buying diesel cars

make diesel cars super expensive

zero tax on hybrid / electric

[ice15]

^I agree... Even if palitan ng Electric Car ang Diesel... sa Coal pa din nanggagaling electricity natin...

Buti sana kung i-upgrade mga power plants sa LNG.

Swerte natin kasi India remains in-love with the diesel engine... For sure palaging magkakaroon ng diesel engine for passenger vehicles in the next 10-20 years.

[uls]

as long as there's strong demand for diesel passenger cars, automakers will keep making them

$$$ talks

you need very strict govt regulation to kill the demand

like coming up with emission standards that are so high that even the "cleanest" diesel cars can't pass

that will make automakers give up selling diesel cars to us

and since wala na choice ang buying public, mapipilitan bumili ng sasakyan na papasa sa super strict emission test

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at doon natin makikita kung may political will ang gobyerno

sino mas malakas?

goberyo o special interest groups (automaker associations)

[uls]

actually it's easy to phase out PUJs

lahat naman yan babagsak sa emission test

pag bumagsak, impound... ubos ang PUJ sa kalye

pero ang tapang ng jeepney groups eh... di kaya ng gobyerno

tapos aasa tayo ma-phase out ang mga diesel fortuner at montero at hilux etc?

hahaha yeah sure whatever

[A121]

actually it's easy to phase out PUJs

lahat naman yan babagsak sa emission test

pag bumagsak, impound... ubos ang PUJ sa kalye

pero ang tapang ng jeepney groups eh... di kaya ng gobyerno

tapos aasa tayo ma-phase out ang mga diesel fortuner at montero at hilux etc?

hahaha yeah sure whatever

Technically, mas efficient yung diesel cycle kesa sa otto cycle? 35% vs. 22% can be converted to usable energy then everything is lost to heat.

[uls]

The VW scandal was the final nail in the coffin for the future of diesel cars in the developed world

It showed that makers of so-called clean diesel cars needed to cheat to pass emission tests

Wala na sila credibility pagdating sa diesel

Pang 3rd world nalang ang diesel cars where regulations are less strict or non existent

[StockEngine]

mux is out of the top10

https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-...s-of-2018.html

[maxpedition]

mux is out of the top10

https://www.autoindustriya.com/auto-...s-of-2018.html

So many ford rangers on the road i thought it will be neck to neck with hilux but even outrun by navarra

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[StockEngine]

11604 rangers isnt not bad imo. kaya siguro madami nakikita hehhe

[kagalingan]

^I think the correct term is "developing country"

I agree that Diesel has to go someday...

Full electric + hybrid is a good future for the Philippines.

Based on my personal observation... I think tayo na lang and India ang mahilig sa Diesel.

so india ang pinas lang pala mahilig sa diesel. Akala ko karamihan sa asya.

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Ito im speaking sa naoobserve ko ngayon bakit mahihirapan talaga mawala desel sa pinas pag walang government intervention, Baliw ang noypi sa desel at matataas height ng sasakyan. Hindi pwede diesel na sedan. Kailangan suv/truck. Mga age nyan in their 50s yung palapit ng magka unang apo. They set meetups sa mga wide open space at picture talaga yung patayo-tayo tapos titigan lang mga sasakyan nila. Ito ah kasama mga asawa nila jan sa gatherings. And my gawd, pati mga misis eh may mga bling bling din na bags and glowing in combination ng glutathione and chin-san-su. Sa probinsya ito nangyayari dito luzon.

And pag sinabay-sabay nila start mga desel engine eh parang videoke nakakairritate. They dont mind the noise and the really nakakainis na amoy ng desel. Parang its their shabu.

Halo-halo yan sila, mga ranger, fortu, monstero, everest. PEro masasabi ko eh habang tumatagal maganda pa din ranger. And sa lahat ng diesel na napakinggan ko eh ang tahimik ng kia carens pero bakit hindi dumadami.

So yung trend ng desel ngayon eh more of a status symbol na walang class. Hindi ito kalevel nung 90s na mga crown, cefiro, accord, benz, bmw.... I really love the toyota crown.

I miss the kalog days of the 90s and early 2000. Lots of gasoline engine and younger and good looking crowd. Naging classic nga miata and s.i.r. Umabot pa ng 2million ngayon!!!!

[dr. d]

it is partly because of government intervention, that diesels are popular here.
diesel fuel is artificially cheaper here, being subsidized by gasoline pricing.
if the authorities were to reverse the scenario, with diesel subsidizing gasoline, malamang ay ilalabas ko nang mas madalas si altis at dadalang ang gamit kay innova.

and tall vehicles will always be popular, if the road conditions they roll on are in non-optimal condition. if i were to drive in s'pore, i'd probably choose a sedan.

[ray_noel]

This year is my first diesel car... plano ko talaga cx9 kasi gas and ang ganda pero over the budget naman... tapos yung price pa ng gas compared sa diesel...

in the future siguro mga 25 years from now, gas will replace diesel and hybrid/electric will replace gas in terms of pricing... what you think?



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[dr. d]

This year is my first diesel car... plano ko talaga cx9 kasi gas and ang ganda pero over the budget naman... tapos yung price pa ng gas compared sa diesel...

in the future siguro mga 25 years from now, gas will replace diesel and hybrid/electric will replace gas in terms of pricing... what you think?



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i'm looking forward to the widespread use of dilithium as energy source. it also spelled the downfall of money.
dreamin'.

translation: i fear the future, just as i am fascinated by its possibilities.