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    #461
    Quote Originally Posted by JJB View Post
    Kawawang Kia

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    Extremely terrible ang dealership experience ko with Kia. Sirain na nga ang sasakyan, very poor after sales service pa. Mahinang klase na nga ang aircon, ang palusot pa hihintayin at oorderin ang parts sa Korea. I suggest that you don't buy a Kia. Mahal na very poor quality aircon pa and very poor quality after sales service. Gimik nila para tatamarin kang magclaim ng warranttee oorderin pa sa Korea ang piesa and mga 3-5 months pa bago dumating. So ikaw naman na nag-iisa lang ang sasakyan, ipaparepair mo nalang sa labas

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    #462
    Quote Originally Posted by monmendoza View Post
    Extremely terrible ang dealership experience ko with Kia. Sirain na nga ang sasakyan, very poor after sales service pa. Mahinang klase na nga ang aircon, ang palusot pa hihintayin at oorderin ang parts sa Korea. I suggest that you don't buy a Kia. Mahal na very poor quality aircon pa and very poor quality after sales service. Gimik nila para tatamarin kang magclaim ng warranttee oorderin pa sa Korea ang piesa and mga 3-5 months pa bago dumating. So ikaw naman na nag-iisa lang ang sasakyan, ipaparepair mo nalang sa labas
    many years ago, my besta's compressor died.
    sabi ng kasa, palit compressor.

    many years later, i had a conversation with a kia kasa mechanic. i narrated to him my experience.
    sabi niya, "dami naming repair kit sa kasa noong mga panahong 'yon...."

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    #463
    Toyota Alphard price is really high ... add a little more and you can have a Mercedes Benz V220d ...

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    #464
    Sa driver, better ang v-class coz of bells and whistles.
    But for passengers, id go sa alphard. Malaki difference yung 2. Better seat comfort and much better ride quality.
    Matigas seats at suspension ng v-class kasi.


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    #465
    V-class comes in manual transmission only? ...

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    #466
    Afaik, A/T lang available. No manual

    Kelan kaya takeover ng Ayala sa Kia?
    Alvarez groups sucks bigtime! Kawawa ang Kia and peugeot, overpriced masyado.

    19 units lang nabenta ng peugeot in a month.
    Kia naman is just 234 units

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    #467
    Hinde na i-takeover ng ayala ang Kia, wala na flagahip model ang koa ngaun, all household names are dead like , picanto, rio, sportage. Parang yin nangyari sa lancer, sentra wala na din tunog pangalan

    Maybe its goodbye Kia for good na

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    #468
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Hinde na i-takeover ng ayala ang Kia, wala na flagahip model ang koa ngaun, all household names are dead like , picanto, rio, sportage. Parang yin nangyari sa lancer, sentra wala na din tunog pangalan

    Maybe its goodbye Kia for good na
    So mali itong news report?

    Sino sa inyo nagsasabi ng totoo?

    Sino purveyor of fake news?


    Just a moment...


    posted April 23, 2018 at 11:13 am by
    Jenniffer B. Austria

    Ayala Corp. is close to finalizing the Kia distributorship deal in the Philippines, a deal that will enable the conglomerate to expand its automotive portfolio, a top executive said over the weekend.

    AC Industrial Technology Holdings Inc., a wholly-owned unit of Ayala Corp., said it was now in the last stage of negotiations for the deal which was expected to be completed in the next quarter.

    “We are now in the last stages of the negotiations. Within the next quarter, hopefully we will be able to finalize,” AC Industrial president Arthur Tan said in an interview at the sidelines of the annual stockholders’ meeting of Ayala Corp.

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    #469
    Peugeot and Volks proved to be non-performing investments or no growth sa investors nila. So what would they do to trick the investors in investing. Ibenta ulet sa ayala employees ang Kia.

    Look at what they did with the Honda CRV diesel, it was promising as its good laternative to the popular Ppvs, come price increase, sila pa pinakamataas. And to think its just crossover, not as durable as the ppvvs in the roads, and what happened to the bluepower, fro, bang for the buck suv, naging mas mahal pa sa fortuner. Ayu. Kulelat sa car sales pang number 6 , tapos 1000 units per month na lang.

    You dont have to read the news to see where its heading, news are temporary pero ang profitability hinde

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    #470
    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Peugeot and Volks proved to be non-performing investments or no growth sa investors nila. So what would they do to trick the investors in investing. Ibenta ulet sa ayala employees ang Kia.

    Look at what they did with the Honda CRV diesel, it was promising as its good laternative to the popular Ppvs, come price increase, sila pa pinakamataas. And to think its just crossover, not as durable as the ppvvs in the roads, and what happened to the bluepower, fro, bang for the buck suv, naging mas mahal pa sa fortuner. Ayu. Kulelat sa car sales pang number 6 , tapos 1000 units per month na lang.

    You dont have to read the news to see where its heading, news are temporary pero ang profitability hinde
    CRV 1.6S: 1.835M
    MU-X 3.0 LS-A: 1.845M
    Fortuner 2.4V: 1.906M
    Everest 2.2 Titanium: 1.918M

    So the CRV and MUX are still cheaper than the competition.

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    #471
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Toyota and Isuzu look to be the biggest losers with the passing of the train law. Toyota lost 3% market share while Isuzu over 2%, dropping down behind Nissan and Suzuki.

    Mitsubishi has the biggest share growth, climbing over 5% share points.








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    Galing ng Suzuki. Quietly impressive overtakes Isuzu haha. I see a lot of Vitara wonder how many sales they have?

    Mitsu also given wala na sila L300/Adventure. Or meron pa ba sales? Then Xpander has more than 2000 confirmed reservation. Its been a while since naka 20% sila market share

    Curious what will be the effect of Nissan Terra to once they release it.

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    #472
    Quote Originally Posted by siuu3ci View Post
    Galing ng Suzuki. Quietly impressive overtakes Isuzu haha. I see a lot of Vitara wonder how many sales they have?

    Mitsu also given wala na sila L300/Adventure. Or meron pa ba sales? Then Xpander has more than 2000 confirmed reservation. Its been a while since naka 20% sila market share

    Curious what will be the effect of Nissan Terra to once they release it.
    Nissan and Suzuki nga malaki ang uptrend.

    Mitsu kasi kahit mabenta xpander if ever, yung sales nga ng ADVIE/L300 ang nawala naman. Hindi pa mapalitan agad yun kasi mahal L200 delivery or cab van eh. At least xpander pamalit sa advie. imho.

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    #473
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Nissan and Suzuki nga malaki ang uptrend.

    Mitsu kasi kahit mabenta xpander if ever, yung sales nga ng ADVIE/L300 ang nawala naman. Hindi pa mapalitan agad yun kasi mahal L200 delivery or cab van eh. At least xpander pamalit sa advie. imho.
    Hindi pa bilang diyan sa March YTD yung benta ng Xpander kasi puro reservations palang. So Mitsubishi is already growing share by 5% even if they lost the Adventure. Montero palang bumubuhat diyan. Incremental growth pa ang Xpander.

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    #474
    Anyare sa Kia? The new Sportage looks good IMO. Bihira na nga ako makakita ng mga bagong Kia sa daan.


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    #475
    Quote Originally Posted by carwhacko View Post
    Anyare sa Kia? The new Sportage looks good IMO. Bihira na nga ako makakita ng mga bagong Kia sa daan.


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    Availability of parts or after sales service?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxpedition View Post
    Availability of parts or after sales service?

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    I really have no idea. Haha! Probably after sales service?


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    #477
    Kia - overpriced vs japanese cars. Poor after sales din.
    Sana talaga mag takeover na Ayala at ibaba prices agad


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    #478
    asa ka pa, ibaba ng Ayala yan. ang katwiran nga nyan kasi Ayala owned, dapat mahal na. so lalo magmahal yan

    why would these ayala executives who graduated from top schools and mbas, bibile ng naluluge na business, tapos pagbile eh lalo ibebenta ng luge. parang wala sa profile nila yan ganyan

    i think we should let Kia go out na, so that Hyundai exec in Korea, bigla magtatanong, wa happen? so balik sila, mura na

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    #479
    daming parts ang kia. kia/hyundai shared the same engine(diesel and gasoline) sa lahat ng model vehicle nila. pati mga underchasis suspension parts parepareho

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    asa ka pa, ibaba ng Ayala yan. ang katwiran nga nyan kasi Ayala owned, dapat mahal na. so lalo magmahal yan

    why would these ayala executives who graduated from top schools and mbas, bibile ng naluluge na business, tapos pagbile eh lalo ibebenta ng luge. parang wala sa profile nila yan ganyan

    i think we should let Kia go out na, so that Hyundai exec in Korea, bigla magtatanong, wa happen? so balik sila, mura na
    Baka feel ng Ayala na mabuhay nila ang Kia brand sa pinas. Its actually doing good sa US and europe.
    Best selling car ang Soul sa US.
    Engot lang itong alvarez group sa paghandle ng car distributorship


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