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    #21
    Kahit hindi include ang PUV sa sales, papasok pa rin ang toyota, dahil from government, private company & embassy
    gamit nila for service, saka yun nga, yung parts and availability, madaling mahanap and madaling maayos.

    About naman po sa pie chart,

    It proves na talagang merong improvement ang economy, yung mga promos and loan options between bank and car dealer para maka-avail ang certain buyer lalo na kung first time buyer ng sasakyan.

    yung pagiging practical wise ng previous car owner na bibili ulit ng sasakyan, and the strategic gameplay ng car dealer, pag dating sa sales, kung ano ang ipantatapat between sa bare/standard, mid-end at TOTL, pag dating sa pricing.

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    #23
    fort vs montero pa din pala. lamang ng konti yun fort. considering na ang laki na ng discount ng montero (70-115k) and maliit lang discount sa facelifted fort (25k-40k). pogi kasi yun gunmetal mags siguro ng fort hehe

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by jaymd View Post
    fort vs montero pa din pala. lamang ng konti yun fort. considering na ang laki na ng discount ng montero (70-115k) and maliit lang discount sa facelifted fort (25k-40k). pogi kasi yun gunmetal mags siguro ng fort hehe
    Oo nga eh. Pero konti lang nakikita ko sa daan na gunmetal na Fort. Last year ba yung natalo ni MS si Fort sa sales?

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    #25
    Quote Originally Posted by andrewnathaniel View Post
    Oo nga eh. Pero konti lang nakikita ko sa daan na gunmetal na Fort. Last year ba yung natalo ni MS si Fort sa sales?
    alam ko number one ms since nilabas to.

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    #26
    Thanks for the share. This is very informative. Tignan natin kung makakahabol MU-x

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    CUVs

    Ecosport -1,992
    Forester - 1,349
    Tucson - 1,187
    CR-V - 1,039
    Santa Fe - 971
    RAV4 - 871
    CX-5 - 599
    Sportage - 597
    XV - 564
    Sorento - 308
    X-Trail - 138
    3008 - 131
    Tiguan - 101
    Soul - 84
    ASX - 81
    Captiva - 20
    At 6% of the total pie, and with this distribution,- not worth it to compete, IMO.... Of course we are not fully aware of the margins....

    Ecosport is leading because it is new,- and is priced just above subcompact...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasparov View Post
    Thanks for the share. This is very informative. Tignan natin kung makakahabol MU-x
    Next year na sales pa natin malalaman kung makakahabol ang MU-X pag nagnormal na ang supply.

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Actually kaya naman yun bro kaso medyo matrabaho. Swerte mo though, nakahanap ako ng data na nakaclassify na per segment yung mga model: http://tsikot.com/forums/toyota-cars...-market-23948/

    2005


    2014:


    In the span of a decade, we see the ff. changes in Filipinos' buying patterns:

    * MPVs and AUVs used to be king. Before the rise of the ubiquitous pick-up based SUV, everyone was driving around in their Crosswinds, Adventures, and of course the hot new kid on the block, the Innova. The Fortuner was only recently introduced and hasn't yet become the staple big car of the country.
    2005: Not much choice kasi during that time for the SUV, just the CRV and RAV4- both CUVs without much seating capacity (and so we bought a van... )


    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    * Compacts still had significant market share. This was still the time when the Altis, Mazda 3, and Civic lorded over the streets, and only the Vios and City were serious contenders from the subcompact segment. Today, with the subcompact and minicar segment offering great variety, lots of features, and cheaper operating costs at a lower purchase price, suddenly noone wants a compact sedan.
    2005: Because the City, IMO, looks very ugly (sorry for those who still own this model - either you love it or you hate it)... And the new Vios ala Camry just came out... Also, the sizes of the subcompacts are just too small compared to the compacts...(but we bought a tiny Jazz, and we loved it) Now, the subcompacts are offered at about the size of the compacts in 2005,- which is good,- and they look good too now...

    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    * CUVs were prevalent. Fuel efficiency wasn't yet the top priority during the time (if you read reviews from this era, FC wasn't even a major discussion point). So even if the 2nd gen CR-V only gets 5 km/L, it was still selling like pandesal. If today you'd buy a Fortuner if you had over a million, back then it was the CR-V and X-Trail.
    2005: 5-seater gas guzzlers,- nah!!! And they're priced way up there!


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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Pickup-based SUVs

    Fortuner - 12,319
    Montero Sport - 11,970
    Trailblazer - 2,582
    Everest - 2,505
    Alterra - 339

    sana nga merong lumabas na Car Sales Data for the 1st Qtr 2015 (Jan - Mar 2015).

    tingnan ko lang ang labanang Alterra vs. Montero vs. Fortuner.

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    #31
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
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    MPVs/Vans

    Innova - 11,717
    Hiace - 6,935
    Avanza - 5,575
    Adventure - 4,688
    Crosswind - 3,876
    Urvan - 2,668
    Grand Starex - 2,042
    APV - 825
    Carens - 302
    Ertiga - 190
    Grand Livina - 83
    Orlando - 61
    E150 - 52
    Fuzion - 47
    5008 - 40
    I'd say, the all-time bestseller arguably goes to the Innova,- practically a 2005 base model, and still commanding 30% of the MPV/Van (17%+7% overall) market share,- or about 7.2% of the total market share... Practical 7/8-seater with the a little over the footprint of a current subcompact..... Vios has 3 body changes since 2005 and Fort/MS are relatively more recent ones....



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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    I'd say, the all-time bestseller arguably goes to the Innova,- practically a 2005 base model, and still commanding 30% of the MPV/Van (17%+7% overall) market share,- or about 7.2% of the total market share... Practical 7/8-seater with the a little over the footprint of a current subcompact..... Vios has 3 body changes since 2005 and Fort/MS are relatively more recent ones....



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    the higher variant innova also eats into the fort/ms pie although indirectly. a high end innova is actually more or less priced the same as a entry level fort or ms(even the AT models). but more consumers would still pick the innova. in the rp market the innova is king. the vios is queen.

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    #33
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Car Sales per Segment:

    Minicars

    Wigo - 4,601
    Eon - 4,122
    Mirage - 3,286
    Picanto - 1,682
    i10 - 818
    Spin - 773
    Alto - 622
    Spark - 350
    San kaya napunta itong mga Eons?
    Mas marami akong nakikitang Mirage dito sa south area.

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    #34
    Quote Originally Posted by jaymd View Post
    the higher variant innova also eats into the fort/ms pie although indirectly. a high end innova is actually more or less priced the same as a entry level fort or ms(even the AT models). but more consumers would still pick the innova. in the rp market the innova is king. the vios is queen.
    Dear bro.- In my books, the Vios is the Prince....

    However, if you'd like to view the 3 body changes in the past 9 years (like lipo, plastic surgery, pvssyk!p, b**b/*ss lift, tummy tuck etc),- then I agree 100% that the Vios is the Queen...




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    Quote Originally Posted by b0y37 View Post
    Wow. Wigo sales surpasses that of Mirage's. Iba talaga ang Toyota badge. Or maybe, dahil bagong release lang ang Wigo kaya mainit pa.

    ...
    or maybe the Sarah Geronimo factor... ^^

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    #36
    What about the sport cars? The 86, GC, Camaro?

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    #37
    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Car Sales per Segment:

    Subcompacts

    Vios -19,584
    City - 5,407
    Mirage G4 - 4,846
    Accent - 3,375
    Fiesta - 1,849
    Rio - 1,490
    Jazz - 1,029
    Almera - 727
    Yaris - 584
    Mazda 2 - 574
    Swift - 244
    Sonic - 185
    The new Yaris is actually a looker, and I personally like it better than the Jazz, in spite of it being a Toyota...

    However, it is reeling at the bottom of the list and is about half the volume of the Jazz. But worse, light years away from its Toyota sibling....




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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Minicars

    Wigo - 4,601
    Eon - 4,122
    Mirage - 3,286
    Picanto - 1,682
    i10 - 818
    Spin - 773
    Alto - 622
    Spark - 350
    I think this illustrates how badly the Wigo is doing. It's the cheapest car from the manufacturer with the biggest dealer network, and it's still just barely leading the Mirage and Eon, which are two to three years old, already.

    It might be a supply issue... but I'm thinking that there is also the possibility that the Wigo is just a step too far downmarket for the Toyota brand. They would have been better off bringing in an Aygo-level car... one slightly more expensive than the Wigo (say, Mirage-level in price) but with higher quality.

    Maybe when supply normalizes, it'll start dominating... but I think second year sales will drop behind the Mirage.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    The new Yaris is actually a looker, and I personally like it better than the Jazz, in spite of it being a Toyota...

    However, it is reeling at the bottom of the list and is about half the volume of the Jazz. But worse, light years away from its Toyota sibling....




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    not sure kung tama nabasa ko sa yaris thread pero parang mahina daw ang supply ng yaris units dito, and limited colors lang

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    #40
    Quote Originally Posted by shok View Post
    San kaya napunta itong mga Eons?
    Mas marami akong nakikitang Mirage dito sa south area.
    maraming Eon within ilocos region at cagayan valley konti lang ang Mirage

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